Unanswered Blood Pressure on EpiAndro/AndroHard/1 andro
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Tsteele60
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Haven’t had an issue whatsoever at 270 mgs 1-andro, 330 mgs of 4-andro, and 75 mgs of 3AD. I don’t have my numbers off hand though, and will update when possible. Just purchased the new Stano-Plex by CEL, and will add that in as soon as I can, so I’ll grab some new readings as well.
NoAddedHmones
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Your blood pressure is fine.
StarScream66
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Hawthorn berry and Celery Seed Extract are great for lowering blood pressure. I've had high platelet counts recently and I'm trying to bring them down. I wouldn't recommend baby aspirin as it doesn't actually lower blood pressure, just reduces clotting.
I also take a Multi for Heart Health that's called Heart Science by Source Naturals. You can find it on Amazon. That, along with some Vitamin K and fish oil should help a lot. Also, avoid heavy stimulants like DMAA or DMHA if you can and reduce your caffeine intake. Make sure you're doing some cardio in the gym as well.
But, doing any kind of anabolics is going to raise your BP, so definitely keep an eye on it. I bought a home bp monitor from Amazon, the brand name is Omron. Consumer Reports recommends it as one of the best home bp monitors, so I try and check it regularly. A lot of phones now can also check your pulse rate and there are apps you can download to do it, so I would look into that too.
There's a great TRT doc on Youtube under the channel name "Anabolic Doc" and he covers a lot of topics related to this. I'd also recommend getting blood work done to make sure everything is copacetic. If you don't want to go to a doc to do this, just Google "Health Tests Direct" and they have very cheap options for any kind of blood work you want to check. You just pay for what you want, then find your nearest Qwest or Labcorp, bring in the sheet you print out, and they'll do the blood work and email it to you.
Hope that helps and good luck bro,
StarScream
I also take a Multi for Heart Health that's called Heart Science by Source Naturals. You can find it on Amazon. That, along with some Vitamin K and fish oil should help a lot. Also, avoid heavy stimulants like DMAA or DMHA if you can and reduce your caffeine intake. Make sure you're doing some cardio in the gym as well.
But, doing any kind of anabolics is going to raise your BP, so definitely keep an eye on it. I bought a home bp monitor from Amazon, the brand name is Omron. Consumer Reports recommends it as one of the best home bp monitors, so I try and check it regularly. A lot of phones now can also check your pulse rate and there are apps you can download to do it, so I would look into that too.
There's a great TRT doc on Youtube under the channel name "Anabolic Doc" and he covers a lot of topics related to this. I'd also recommend getting blood work done to make sure everything is copacetic. If you don't want to go to a doc to do this, just Google "Health Tests Direct" and they have very cheap options for any kind of blood work you want to check. You just pay for what you want, then find your nearest Qwest or Labcorp, bring in the sheet you print out, and they'll do the blood work and email it to you.
Hope that helps and good luck bro,
StarScream
StarScream66
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I highly recommend you go to examine.com and read about the supplements mentioned, look at the studies for yourself and see that they actually work like they claim they do.
Since I've been taking these supplements, my bp has dropped significantly. It was super high at like 180/90 and now it's down to around 120-130/80. My pulse rate is still pretty high though, and like I mentioned, you can get an app for your phone to check that regularly too.
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Tsteele60
Member
Good to know. Just wasn't sure as with an ECA stack I thought the A was to counteract any potential issues with BP. Good to know though. My support stuff includes Kyolic Circulation which has some Hawthorn Berry in it.
StarScream66
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No, the aspirin in ECA was originally meant to try and let the E and the C reach fat in mega obese people from my understanding. I don't recall the exact mechanism or theory behind it, but it was something to do with getting to the circulation of the adipose of the mega obese who had poor circulation in those areas. It never had any real good science behind it, but people stuck with the A in the stack anyway, but you could do without it just fine. I might be able to dig up the original research if you're interested.
Tsteele60
Member
That's all good! Thank you for the wealth of info. I am actually awaiting my SNS Alpha Y and Caffeine so I can grab some Bronkaid for an ECY stack. Again, the info is great and I never would've known that/continue to be misinformed without the knowledge
JoePaul39
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Like others have said your blood pressure is fine. For what it is worth, I wouldn’t rely too much on the store blood pressure readers. Many are not very accurate. Cuffs can be had on Amazon fairly cheap. I use a wrist cuff reader because it is much easier to put on by myself than the type they use in the doctor’s offices.
Matthersby
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Not even on my best days plus a few aspirin and Xanax can I get to those numbers.
Mathb33
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LMFAO right?
StarScream66
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I'm guessing Alpha Y is yohimbine, so a ECY combo would work just perfectly. Just keep an eye on your blood pressure!
Tsteele60
Member
Yessir, Rauwolscine or Alpha Yohimbine. I've ran it before with no issues, just not with pros. So I will be sure to keep an eye on my numbers!I'm guessing Alpha Y is yohimbine, so a ECY combo would work just perfectly. Just keep an eye on your blood pressure!
dillface02241
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my doc would kiss me if I had that blood pressure and I'm on BP Meds....
Chrisbenches
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Lol! Same here! But the sticky icky always helps.
StarScream66
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People are still selling 11-OXO? What about 6-OXO?
Renew1
Legend
Yep.
Tsteele60
Member
Yeah, I purchased Medfit RX. Not sure about the 6-OXO though
Rad83
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...What’s more likely to be causing the BP increase, EpiAndro, 1 andro, the combo in general...?
Chrisbenches
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I would drop all caffeine and stims and see what happens. I ran epiandro in the past and my blood pressure elevated as well. I dropped coffee and preworkouts and my blood pressure dropped to normal ranges.
Renew1
Legend
Epiandro.