Black Monday

[dbrock504]

He's a beast QB in a college system against college players. I don't see him translating too well to the NFL, even with the perfect system.

Well I can't agree. And neither can 99% of college/NFL analysts and scouts. The kid is the whole package and will instantly improve any team he goes to. Imo.

 

[hardwork25]

He's a beast QB in a college system against college players. I don't see him translating too well to the NFL, even with the perfect system.

Yup. None of them outside of Russell Wilson can be franchise quarterbacks.

 

[cubsfan815]

Ugh.. Ant your Jets just signed my guy Bowles. He was my top choice for Bears.

Now time for Bears to sign Fox.

 

[Athletix]

I thought the Bucs had a chance to steal rod marinelli but apparently Dallas wasn't going to let that happen

 

[cubsfan815]

I thought the Bucs had a chance to steal rod marinelli but apparently Dallas wasn't going to let that happen

Trestman has been linked to Bucs and Browns for O coordinator.

Get ready for 1 yard wide receiver screens on 3 and 12 lol.

 

[Athletix]

Trestman has been linked to Bucs and Browns for O coordinator.

Get ready for 1 yard wide receiver screens on 3 and 12 lol.

He's the one person I don't want them to hire, I don't know why Lovie thinks he should re create the Bears here (no offense lol)

 

[cubsfan815]

He's the one person I don't want them to hire, I don't know why Lovie thinks he should re create the Bears here (no offense lol)

Unless he's recreating 85 Bears right lol

 

[AntM1564]

Ugh.. Ant your Jets just signed my guy Bowles. He was my top choice for Bears.

Now time for Bears to sign Fox.

We'll see what happens. I can't wait to see the outcome!

 

[dbrock504]

Wtf is OAK thinkin?

 

[Athletix]

Wtf is OAK thinkin?

I didn't think he'd be a head coach again after Jax

 

[dbrock504]

I didn't think he'd be a head coach again after Jax

Ditto brotha

 

[AntM1564]

Wtf is OAK thinkin?

I doubt anyone else wanted that job lol

 

[dbrock504]

I doubt anyone else wanted that job lol

I don't know about that man. Good QB. Good personally on paper. Bad scheming and bad coaching. Very talented team though

 

[Athletix]

I don't know about that man. Good QB. Good personally on paper. Bad scheming and bad coaching. Very talented team though

I was surprised Harbaugh didn't want to coach Carr, he showed potential

 

[dbrock504]

I was surprised Harbaugh didn't want to coach Carr, he showed potential

I completely agree with you. I think Rex Ryan would be good there too but I'll be honest, BUF just became an instant contender

 

[hardwork25]

I completely agree with you. I think Rex Ryan would be good there too but I'll be honest, BUF just became an instant contender

Meh we will see. Buffalo has a similar set up to NY. They already have a Really good defense, bad offense with little talent, and a QB that could potentially be a coach killer. (Sounds like the jets)


Rex should have taken the atl job in my opinion. Now he's in buffalo and has to worry about building an offense versus Atlanta where we had major offensive firepower, a top qb, and all he would have to do is fix the defense.

 

[cubsfan815]

Surprised Bears didn't lock Fox up right away.

 

[dbrock504]

Meh we will see. Buffalo has a similar set up to NY. They already have a Really good defense, bad offense with little talent, and a QB that could potentially be a coach killer. (Sounds like the jets) Rex should have taken the atl job in my opinion. Now he's in buffalo and has to worry about building an offense versus Atlanta where we had major offensive firepower, a top qb, and all he would have to do is fix the defense.

Actually, you're right. I revoke my earlier sentence and agree with you completely.

 

[AntM1564]

Meh we will see. Buffalo has a similar set up to NY. They already have a Really good defense, bad offense with little talent, and a QB that could potentially be a coach killer. (Sounds like the jets)


Rex should have taken the atl job in my opinion. Now he's in buffalo and has to worry about building an offense versus Atlanta where we had major offensive firepower, a top qb, and all he would have to do is fix the defense.

This x1000

 

[AntM1564]

Finally Fox and the Bears agreed to terms.

 

[dbrock504]

Finally Fox and the Bears agreed to terms.

Good move imo

 

[koi1214]

Finally Fox and the Bears agreed to terms.

Now maybe we can get our defense to play better.

 

[cubsfan815]

Yeah, i can't wait to see who Bears get for OC and DC now.

 

[AntM1564]

Is Fox a defensive minded HC?

 

[dbrock504]

Is Fox a defensive minded HC?

He was a DB coach and an dc before he got a shot at being a HC.

 

[hardwork25]

As a Denver fan I wouldn't be overly excited about fox. A definite upgrade, but I'd be optimistically cautious.

 

[dbrock504]

As a Denver fan I wouldn't be overly excited about fox. A definite upgrade, but I'd be optimistically cautious.

And I can certainly understand that, but for what's out there and what chi had, not a bad pick up. Better than jack del rio! lol

 

[hardwork25]

And I can certainly understand that, but for what's out there and what chi had, not a bad pick up. Better than jack del rio! lol

Very very true

 

[AntM1564]

He was a DB coach and an dc before he got a shot at being a HC.

Ok, he'll be a good fit. They need a better D

As a Denver fan I wouldn't be overly excited about fox. A definite upgrade, but I'd be optimistically cautious.

I would be extremely nervous as a Denver fan, two guy cancelled their interviews for this weekend, not a good sign.

 

[Athletix]

So what did everyone think of the "deflategate" story

It seems like a lot of QB's tweak the ball in some way but this isn't the first time the Pats have been associated with a cheating scandal

 

[AntM1564]

So what did everyone think of the "deflategate" story

It seems like a lot of QB's tweak the ball in some way but this isn't the first time the Pats have been associated with a cheating scandal

At first, I thought it was no big deal since I thought it was a single ball. However, I think both Brady's and Bellichik's reputations and credibility will take another hit. It may cost them going to the hall their first year eligible. I would love to know if this was an isolated incident or not, but we will probably never know.

I think the bigger issue is that the NFL allows teams to bring their own balls. They should have a set of balls and the only person near them should be someone from the league offices.

 

[Athletix]

At first, I thought it was no big deal since I thought it was a single ball. However, I think both Brady's and Bellichik's reputations and credibility will take another hit. It may cost them going to the hall their first year eligible. I would love to know if this was an isolated incident or not, but we will probably never know. I think the bigger issue is that the NFL allows teams to bring their own balls. They should have a set of balls and the only person near them should be someone from the league offices.

Did they blame it on w ball boy?

 

[breezy11]

Belichick was pretty pissed in a press conference today (because he's spending time studying balls and physics instead of the Seahawks) and said that he's now 100% sure that everyone in the organization followed the rules.

http://m.patriots.com/media-center/videos/Belichick-124-Followed-every-rule-to-the-letter/d607eb23-2f67-4da5-aedc-b8bfba8d4c11

Either way, I think ESPN (and most of the media) seems to be doing their best to make this a bigger deal than it is. They actually posted and removed a sports science video on the issue, but someone put it on YouTube before it was taken down.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/24/espn-pulls-sports-science-deflate-gate-clip-exonerating-patriots-video/

 

[AntM1564]

Did they blame it on w ball boy?

I don't think so. However, it would not surprise me if the eventually did and just paid the person off.

 

[AntM1564]

Apparently there is a video of a Patriots ball guy taking the footballs to a different location, then he should have, after taking them out of the officials room. If the guy was smart, he would have taken them into an elevator, the NFL would never find the tape.

Anyways, I still think the process is a bigger issue than what actually happened. Why are individual teams ball boys taking these footballs from point A to point B. Terrible system.

 

[Athletix]

Interesting, I heard on the radio that Brady's stats in the rain are abnormally better than anyone else, but who knows

 

[hardwork25]

Interesting, I heard on the radio that Brady's stats in the rain are abnormally better than anyone else, but who knows

Yeah this doesn't mean much to me considering he plays in the NE

 

[AntM1564]

Interesting, I heard on the radio that Brady's stats in the rain are abnormally better than anyone else, but who knows

I was just out shoveling and listening to Max and Marcellus on espn radio. Anyways, some guy put together a huge stat sheet that they read. It was interesting.

Essentially, it showed that from 2008 to now, the Patriots have the least amount of fumbles out of all the NFL teams. This even includes teams that play in domes. The Pats play in a cold weather state and in elements. Prior to 2008, they were one of the worst. 2007 was Spygate. The author of the study is trying to say that they Patriots were only good prior to 2007 because they were recording practices. Then once they got caught doing that, they needed a new way to get an advantage, insinuating that they have been manipulating footballs since 2008.

Do I believe it no, but it i interesting to think about.

 

[Athletix]

I was just out shoveling and listening to Max and Marcellus on espn radio. Anyways, some guy put together a huge stat sheet that they read. It was interesting. Essentially, it showed that from 2008 to now, the Patriots have the least amount of fumbles out of all the NFL teams. This even includes teams that play in domes. The Pats play in a cold weather state and in elements. Prior to 2008, they were one of the worst. 2007 was Spygate. The author of the study is trying to say that they Patriots were only good prior to 2007 because they were recording practices. Then once they got caught doing that, they needed a new way to get an advantage, insinuating that they have been manipulating footballs since 2008. Do I believe it no, but it i interesting to think about.

Yeah it seems like a stretch but definitely interesting stats

 

[AntM1564]

Now this morning, the attendant that took the balls actually took them into a single person restroom for 90 seconds. I don't know how one deflates 11 balls in 90 seconds. He probably just took a leak. Very interested to see what turns up, if anything.

 

[Athletix]

Now this morning, the attendant that took the balls actually took them into a single person restroom for 90 seconds. I don't know how one deflates 11 balls in 90 seconds. He probably just took a leak. Very interested to see what turns up, if anything.

I saw this as well, if he was able to deflate that many balls to the desired psi that fast then he is a deflation pro

 

[breezy11]

Now this morning, the attendant that took the balls actually took them into a single person restroom for 90 seconds. I don't know how one deflates 11 balls in 90 seconds. He probably just took a leak. Very interested to see what turns up, if anything.

Yeah, I just saw that. Supposedly, the video shows the ball attendant stopping at the bathroom for 90 seconds with both teams balls before heading to the field.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/01/27/report-patriots-employee-shown-on-video-taking-footballs-into-bathroom/

There are also reports that that Pats balls were given to and approved by the refs under-inflated. Apparently, the refs often just look them over and give a quick squeeze before approving. The weather could account for an additional drop in psi by halftime as well.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/01/27/richs-sources-patriots-footballs-passed-referee-inspection-just-under-allowable-psi-level/

 

[keithgeiling]

The NFL "kinda" set a trap and when it's all said and done, no smoking gun or deliberate action.. IMO..

 

[Wrivest]

To quote BarStool Sports: "They hate us cuz they Ain't us!!"
Everyone shîts on the Pats because of how good they are, and because of how annoying some of my fellow New Englanders can be. This "deflategate" thing is ridiculous!! The psi was not properly checked, and many QBs have come out and said that all they do is go into the locker room, squeeze the ball, and call it good.
I think it's funny that the Ravens... The trashiest, least respectable team in all of sports, is making a big point of calling the Pats out. Maybe Brady should have just KO'd his wife on tape... Would that have been better??

 

[keithgeiling]

Yep. And also the Ravens fans that cheered Ray Rices name mentioned In training camp. The Pats handed balls to refs and once refs called it good, the Pats figured they were good to go even if they were under inflated. It reminds me of a PGA golf tournament if a player calls a rules official over and the official goes through a process of relief or some kind of drop, then the player is free from penalty if after round it is determined that it indeed was wrong. That's my humble opinion!! Oh, and GO PATS!!!!!!!!

 

[Athletix]

What does everyone think of all the moves going on the last week??

Also, for any Eagles fans out there, think Chip will make a run at Mariota?

 

[cubsfan815]

As a Bears fan, I'm pretty bored lol.

 

[keithgeiling]

What does everyone think of all the moves going on the last week?? Also, for any Eagles fans out there, think Chip will make a run at Mariota?

Chip definitely makes some sort of run, but we may not know about it. At least right away. He will be quietly seeking!!??

 

[AntM1564]

What does everyone think of all the moves going on the last week??

Also, for any Eagles fans out there, think Chip will make a run at Mariota?

If he didn't trade Foles, then yes he could have made a run. I don't see what they can offer to get higher draft pick now unless Murray was only signed to trade away. Which I doubt.