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Black lion - vector

Jiigzz said:
I legitimately thought this was the same day as the lighting, pose, angle and clothes are pretty much exactly the same.

But when you actually look past that and isolate areas you can see the body composition change.

Kudos man! Hard work pays off
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Thanks brother!
I actually have a piece of tape on the floor to try to stand in the same place. I need another piece of tape for my photographer so she knows were to stand. My photographer doesn't listen very well after 25 years of marriage.
The shirts might be the same. I have about 7 shirts that I workout in. usually a freeby that I cut the sleeves off. Don't like to sweat up my sweet t's
 
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The talk of these two pictures looking the same is hilarious just a different distance to the camera, if you resize them the muscle increase is obvious. Look at the lats, the rounded shoulders, the arm thickness and upper chest where it joins to the shoulders. I would be absolutely delighted with these gains. Tremendous work sir.

P.s Sorry for looking at your pictures so hard #notgay #dontwantnudes
 
Zippy said:
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The talk of these two pictures looking the same is hilarious just a different distance to the camera, if you resize them the muscle increase is obvious. Look at the lats, the rounded shoulders, the arm thickness and upper chest where it joins to the shoulders. I would be absolutely delighted with these gains. Tremendous work sir.

P.s Sorry for looking at your pictures so hard #notgay #dontwantnudes
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Hey no shame in wanting nudes. Pretty sure we all have requested nudes of Studhorse at some point or another. Hahah
 
Wobmarvel said:
I may try using vector after I've ran my pct on my superdrol/lgd cycle. Has anyone used it to try and maintain or even improve upon gains from a cycle?
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I have been following everything Vector and not heard of anyone yet. Think its too new. Would think it would absolutely ideal in PCT though! I feel like I am on a mild cycle as it is.
 
Wobmarvel said:
I may try using vector after I've ran my pct on my superdrol/lgd cycle. Has anyone used it to try and maintain or even improve upon gains from a cycle?
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One of the great things about vector is its not suppressive and in some cases even raises test levels. I think it would be great as part of a pct stack. It should not be used alone for pct but added to keep you growing and feeling strong.
 
Yah Studhorse pics are legit. If you don't see a difference you need glasses.
This is also an experienced guy. It's not like he's seeing noob gains.
 
Zippy said:
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The talk of these two pictures looking the same is hilarious just a different distance to the camera, if you resize them the muscle increase is obvious. Look at the lats, the rounded shoulders, the arm thickness and upper chest where it joins to the shoulders. I would be absolutely delighted with these gains. Tremendous work sir.

P.s Sorry for looking at your pictures so hard #notgay #dontwantnudes
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Well Done! Wish I knew how to do that. At my age I'm happy that I know how to use the internet.
#notgayatall
 
We have been talking about how Vector works, how and why it is so effective. Because it is for sure the strongest stuff I have ever seen thats natural.
The combination is without a doubt in my mind the strongest stuff available anywhere currently.
I have mentioned that I believed it raised test levels and I posted a study to support this hypothesis.
We ran some labs to see how things turned out. Just as an example for you guys reading this lab result shows a nearly 100% increase in test levels. AND this isnt in some guy who was massively suppressed. His pre Vector levels were well within mid normal ranges.
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I also want to point out that if you look at the chart plot there are points where its higher than the 993!
993ng/dl is exceptional. Period.
 
brundel said:
We have been talking about how Vector works, how and why it is so effective. Because it is for sure the strongest stuff I have ever seen thats natural.
The combination is without a doubt in my mind the strongest stuff available anywhere currently.
I have mentioned that I believed it raised test levels and I posted a study to support this hypothesis.
We ran some labs to see how things turned out. Just as an example for you guys reading this lab result shows a nearly 100% increase in test levels. AND this isnt in some guy who was massively suppressed. His pre Vector levels were well within mid normal ranges.
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I think you should mention that these are the labs of chedapalooza bc honestly I’m not sure I would have believed this from a natural product...then I saw that a long time well respected board member with no affiliation to BLR posted them. Very impressive.
 
toddmuelheim said:
I think you should mention that these are the labs of chedapalooza bc honestly I’m not sure I would have believed this from a natural product...then I saw that a long time well respected board member with no affiliation to BLR posted them. Very impressive.
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Yes this is the owner of another competing brand and a well known member.
Its not someone who was hired to run labs.
Its not someone we paid.
 
brundel said:
These stack really well. The absorption enhancement package in Follidrone helps with many of the actives in Vector so it improves the effects overall.
Then Letrone at the end for some cutting magic. Sounds very good to me.
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Ok great, I just wanted to make sure these could be stacked and the plan made sense, thanks!
 
From memory the guy who posted bloods has stacked quite a number of products in the past. Was the vector run solo?

Also E looks elevated? Assuming no other products were being used which may have confounded the results should Vector be run with an AI?
 
ucheoma said:
From memory the guy who posted bloods has stacked quite a number of products in the past. Was the vector run solo?

Also E looks elevated? Assuming no other products were being used which may have confounded the results should Vector be run with an AI?
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He's on TRT I think, so that could easily explain the higher E values, especially as T is out of range as well (corresponds)

Some Docs dont seem to prescribe anti Es with TRT for whatever reason. I guess they're trying to allow the body to regulate itself but it doesn't always pan out lol
 
I will get bloods done this month. I am due to get bloods. I have been on Vector for 4.5 weeks so far and will continue running it. Unfortunately, I did not plan it out this time to get pre-bloods. It will still be interesting to see. I for one know my T levels are not all that high at the moment. We will see I will post up the results though.
 
ELROCK said:
I will get bloods done this month. I am due to get bloods. I have been on Vector for 4.5 weeks so far and will continue running it. Unfortunately, I did not plan it out this time to get pre-bloods. It will still be interesting to see. I for one know my T levels are not all that high at the moment. We will see I will post up the results though.
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Are you on trt?
 
ucheoma said:
From memory the guy who posted bloods has stacked quite a number of products in the past. Was the vector run solo?

Also E looks elevated? Assuming no other products were being used which may have confounded the results should Vector be run with an AI?
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Vector was the only thing that was new. Previous labs had him stable at around 500. The only thing that changed was Vector.
And while estrogen is high normal ist not super high. I would expect it to be this high with test levels above the reference range.
I dont think an AI is needed. This person is also very estrogen dominant.
 
alvin1 said:
What ingredient in vector can raise test?
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There is a study indicating Viscum album can.
Also rehmannaie radix might. There is some evidence.

This is the second labs Ive seen that showed increased test levels from Vector.
 
ELROCK said:
No. I was a few years ago but I went off it to have kids and never went back on it. Now, I want to wait until at least 40 to get back on it.
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ok great if Vector raise you test too, this will be two persons, that would be great
 
Vector has proven to be the strongest natural anabolic around these days.
Its not intended to be a test booster but if it does than what a beast it is.
In the very least its an ultra strong non suppressive natural anabolic. Labs are starting to indicate it raises test as well.
Pretty awesome.
 
brundel said:
Vector has proven to be the strongest natural anabolic around these days.
Its not intended to be a test booster but if it does than what a beast it is.
In the very least its an ultra strong non suppressive natural anabolic. Labs are starting to indicate it raises test as well.
Pretty awesome.
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You say this like it surprises you, didnt you do trials and tests with it? lol... kinda alarms me
 
Sparta12 said:
You say this like it surprises you, didnt you do trials and tests with it? lol... kinda alarms me
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Trials and Tests lol. I’m literally dying laughing. Cmon man, nowadays there isn’t some magic fund for human trials and tons of evidence with different extracts that “seem” to boost performance. It could be well-being, athletic, or even cognitive performance but we all want the cutting edge supplement that’s going to help us get to our goals faster. This man doesn’t have the resources to do extensive testing, bloodwork, and with the pressure from the audience I’m sure there’s still some things worth figuring out. The products on the market, reading through the references I personally saw nothing that seemed alarming and trust and believe I looked. BLR isn’t a pharmaceutical company and people need to be realistic. Also remember that not a soul actually asks their doctor before consumption of Vector so it’s always going to be at your own risk.

Brundel has hidden nothing and this product seems to be not only hitting its mark but seems it’s better than many had hoped for. Finally a supplement that actually gives you more than what you’ve asked for lol. Keep up the innovation and trying to appease an impossible audience BLR.
 
TheMovement said:
Trials and Tests lol. I’m literally dying laughing. Cmon man, nowadays there isn’t some magic fund for human trials and tons of evidence with different extracts that “seem” to boost performance. It could be well-being, athletic, or even cognitive performance but we all want the cutting edge supplement that’s going to help us get to our goals faster. This man doesn’t have the resources to do extensive testing, bloodwork, and with the pressure from the audience I’m sure there’s still some things worth figuring out. The products on the market, reading through the references I personally saw nothing that seemed alarming and trust and believe I looked. BLR isn’t a pharmaceutical company and people need to be realistic. Also remember that not a soul actually asks their doctor before consumption of Vector so it’s always going to be at your own risk.

Brundel has hidden nothing and this product seems to be not only hitting its mark but seems it’s better than many had hoped for. Finally a supplement that actually gives you more than what you’ve asked for lol. Keep up the innovation and trying to appease an impossible audience BLR.
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I get what you are saying, but get what i am saying.... this is experimental then isnt it? if the owner says "oh I didnt expect that result" from a supplement they have already released, it is just odd... who knows what side effects come on in 6 months/12 months+ ... I guess i was naive in thinking supplement companies care about our health ;)
 
Sparta12 said:
I get what you are saying, but get what i am saying.... this is experimental then isnt it? if the owner says "oh I didnt expect that result" from a supplement they have already released, it is just odd... who knows what side effects come on in 6 months/12 months+ ... I guess i was naive in thinking supplement companies care about our health ;)
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100% of all supplement companies do this though. They go off the research that is available and construct a product that way.

Even the companies that have done human trials have only done them on a product that has been in circulation for a period of time, and it's usually to determine efficacy rather than safety. It costs hundreds of thousands to run a human trial.

If the ingredients are DSHEA compliant then that means they have been in circulation for a while. That's not experimental at all. The ones that need an NDI are usually more experimental.

I wouldn't be concerned about vector at all.
 
Jiigzz said:
100% of all supplement companies do this though. They go off the research that is available and construct a product that way.

Even the companies that have done human trials have only done them on a product that has been in circulation for a period of time, and it's usually to determine efficacy rather than safety. It costs hundreds of thousands to run a human trial.

If the ingredients are DSHEA compliant then that means they have been in circulation for a while. That's not experimental at all. The ones that need an NDI are usually more experimental.

I wouldn't be concerned about vector at all.
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Have these ingredients been paired together before? if they have why the surprise at increase in test? that is all I am saying, obviously it is an experimental if it hasn't been done before lol. With that test increase will there be any side effects? will dht/estrogen raise, I personally dont want anything that has the potential to raise dht at the moment.

I am honestly not trying to hate on them, because I like BLR's products and use them a lot, anyway we can move on from this if its just gonna be defensive comments
 
Sparta12 said:
Have these ingredients been paired together before? if they have why the surprise at increase in test? that is all I am saying, obviously it is an experimental if it hasn't been done before lol. With that test increase will there be any side effects? will dht/estrogen raise, I personally dont want anything that has the potential to raise dht at the moment.

I am honestly not trying to hate on them, because I like BLR's products and use them a lot, anyway we can move on from this if its just gonna be defensive comments
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I'm sorry for this. I was looking up big pharma commercials to prove some point but I got lost in this video, and just have to share.

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PS: Nobody died while taking Vector, they just grew big muscles and lost fat. The ish works. #attitude #sorrynotsorry
 
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