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BJ Penn vs GSP-The rematch

Anyone else felt like Guida did NOTHING to diserve that decision win?

I personally found it RIDICULOUS. He did NOTHING the entire fight. I don't think he ever landed a punch. All he did was hold him, hold him some more, then hold him more. He took NO advantage of any positions, he never tried to progress in the fight, all he did was hug Diaz, who on the other hand was just landing punches, doing transitions, taking him down, sweeping, etc.

Guida controlled the ring but he did nothing besides that. Nothing at all.

I'm happy diaz lost.
 
Also, I was seriously impressed with John "Bones" Jones! That kid's (hopefully) gonna be a force to reckon with. That spinning elbow was sick!
 
That karo decision was garbage i cant stand that cocky crybaby prick.

Jones was completely molesting Bonner in the first round, like real bad rapage imo. He gassed early tho, Bonner shouldnt be in the UFC.

Its funny how BJ jumps from weight classes to fight the best but when we talk about GSP jumping weight class its more of a cautious deal where we have to work him into the class....thats not pound for pound. Im sure A. Silva would jump to a weight class to fight the best if given the chance....so why not GSP?

Im glad Diaz lost, he was landing punches if you want to call them that. The kid couldnt hurt my grandma come on those were like open handed sparring strikes.
 
Fight pretty much went as expected. However, GSP seemed very apprehensive to stand in the first round. BJ showed real good take down defense on that round too. However, GSP just took over came second round and really got aggressive. BJ does not have the stamina at that weight, and he clearly stopped fighting and just started defending at some point in the fight after getting tired.
 
IMO GSP gets KOed by Silva but my opinion means nothing :)
I agree. I also would love to see it happen, however, I think GSP needs a few fights at 185 before fighting Anderson, or else it will be a long night
 
Fight pretty much went as expected. However, GSP seemed very apprehensive to stand in the first round. BJ showed real good take down defense on that round too. However, GSP just took over came second round and really got aggressive. BJ does not have the stamina at that weight, and he clearly stopped fighting and just started defending at some point in the fight after getting tired.
thats why i believe GSP won with his superior strength, he was clearly just wearing down Penn in the clinch against the fence, dude has some massive legs! I was thinking BJ mustve been thinking in his head "damn this dude is strong" thats what broke his spirit imo and thats how GSP made BJ fight his fight, pure physical advantage even with the heavier Penn showing his speed at that weight.
I agree. I also would love to see it happen, however, I think GSP needs a few fights at 185 before fighting Anderson, or else it will be a long night
lol, long night indeed. Doesnt Silva have some KO's from opponents shooting for takedowns?
 
So much for BJ saying GSP is the quitter, when BJ quit.....


He didn't quit. Dr looked at him and his corner stopped it. Not saying he didn't get beat I gotta give it to GSP he is a hell of a fighter but did you see all those hits GSP was landing right on BJ's head and BJ still didn't tap??? that was a hell of a beating. GSP was just too Big and thats not a knock on GSP. Now I can see why my coach want's to cut down more.
 
Im glad Diaz lost, he was landing punches if you want to call them that. The kid couldnt hurt my grandma come on those were like open handed sparring strikes.

I know we rarely disagree but trust me those punches got something behind them. (Remember who's flag i fly LOL)
 
It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.
 
It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.


Oh yeah i agree corner made the call but not BJ himself even when he was getting wailed on HARD he didn't tap. I mean GSP had him in a type of cruifix at one point and was just landing clean shots to his head and he kept going. I think GSP is just an animal at Welterweight he deserved it
 
I think they were referring to his will to fight. Like I said, he stopped attacking at some point. I would imagine that having his guard not only nullified but passed with ease was probably the most frustrating experience for BJ.
 
It did not appear as if the Doctor mandated the fight be stopped, as his brother ultimately made the call it seems.

Exactly! And no one knows what BJ was saying. He may have said to throw the towel in. With all his power, it seems odd that GSP wasn't able to take him out during the round.
 
Silva would not get held down by GSP and theres no need to even talk about the stand up between the two. GSP needs to stay where he is and Silva needs to go to 205. Machida Vs Silva would be great. Hope it happens
 
Silva would not get held down by GSP and theres no need to even talk about the stand up between the two. GSP needs to stay where he is and Silva needs to go to 205. Machida Vs Silva would be great. Hope it happens

Wow, that would be a great fight. That would be one hell of a chess game. I'm personally not a fan of Machida's style, but I can't argue with its efficacy.
 
The Penn Camp is filing a formal complaint to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, arguing Georges St. Pierre had his back vaselined in between arounds. Evidently a cutman who had grease on his hands inadvertently wiped GSP's back with the grease, but quickly wiped it off with a towel.

I have lost all respect for BJ Penn. After calling GSP a bitch because he tapped to strikes in the first GSP/Serra fight (went back and watched it, and it didn't look like that; rather, it was stopped by the ref and was thus officially recorded as TKO: Referee Stoppage), he throws in the towel because he got utterly destroyed for 20 minutes. Also, anyone who believes Penn didn't want the fight to stop is stubborn and retarded; the corner wouldn't have thrown in the towel unless they were absolute their brother was finished and wanted it stopped. And, if that wasn't enough, they're throwing a bitch-fit about an inadvertent grease-swipe.

Wow.


BJ Penn, you are a piece of ****.
 
For the last time, Anderson and Machida will never fight each other. This has been said time and again by both parties that they will not ever fight.
 
I think it could be interesting to see what will happen at 205 with machida close to a title shot, that sort of is the end of the line for silva who he wont fight. So then what anderson stays at 185 dominates the weak division and ends his career a legend...

Jon Jones did look wicked, i can see why his nickname is "bones" lol.

Karo pariysan looked like garbage should have lost and i agree that the guida decision was iffy cause its a "fight" not a hug your back like a leech match. It seems the way the fights are scored he has found a loophole where he doesnt need to sub, hit and can be taken down repeatedly and still win.

Like i said before machida doesnt get hit , its wierd..

I picked Bj to win.. what a joke, im kind of embarrased even tho he's smaller cause he didnt bring the fight to GSP in round one and that was likely his only chance, IF he had one.
 
Not a BJ Penn fan but at light weight....he's tough.....he just gets gassed too fast at welterweight and he is just not strong enough to be in there with GSP. I miss Matt Hughes but GSP is the ****in' man!
 
The Penn Camp is filing a formal complaint to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, arguing Georges St. Pierre had his back vaselined in between arounds. Evidently a cutman who had grease on his hands inadvertently wiped GSP's back with the grease, but quickly wiped it off with a towel.I

BJ Penn, you are a piece of ****.

Latesst UPDAtes are Nevada State Athletic Commission is backing up BJ saying it happened more than once and that BJ complained about it during the match. The NSAC has stated what happened was against their rules. BJ got beat hands down but this grease thing isnt' something made up when the Commission actually came into the ring between rounds and warned them on two occassions.
 
The amount of difference it would have made can be argued back and forth. But, regardless on who's side you are on, that is an unfair advantage inadvertent or not. I was and am cheering for GSP, but these types of things have a nack of putting "ifs" in great performances. Will we see this happen again? Penn vs GSP III?
 
Exactly! And no one knows what BJ was saying. He may have said to throw the towel in. With all his power, it seems odd that GSP wasn't able to take him out during the round.
i agree, i dont know what thats a signifies, BJs toughness or GSP not having the finishing ability. I mean the crucifix mount (whatever its called) where you lay perpindicular and over the shoulders....that should have been easy to wail on someone with alot of force and take them out.
 
The Penn Camp is filing a formal complaint to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, arguing Georges St. Pierre had his back vaselined in between arounds. Evidently a cutman who had grease on his hands inadvertently wiped GSP's back with the grease, but quickly wiped it off with a towel.

I have lost all respect for BJ Penn. After calling GSP a bitch because he tapped to strikes in the first GSP/Serra fight (went back and watched it, and it didn't look like that; rather, it was stopped by the ref and was thus officially recorded as TKO: Referee Stoppage), he throws in the towel because he got utterly destroyed for 20 minutes. Also, anyone who believes Penn didn't want the fight to stop is stubborn and retarded; the corner wouldn't have thrown in the towel unless they were absolute their brother was finished and wanted it stopped. And, if that wasn't enough, they're throwing a bitch-fit about an inadvertent grease-swipe.

Wow.


BJ Penn, you are a piece of ****.

BINGO!
 


Didn't you read my reply? The NSAC is BACKING BJ Penn on this it happened on more than one occasion so much show that the NSAC official felt compelled to enter the cage to stop it. the NSAC new about this even before BJ made the complaint and they said there could be a formal hearing even if BJ's corner does not file a complaint.
 
Didn't you read my reply? The NSAC is BACKING BJ Penn on this it happened on more than one occasion so much show that the NSAC official felt compelled to enter the cage to stop it. the NSAC new about this even before BJ made the complaint and they said there could be a formal hearing even if BJ's corner does not file a complaint.

This vaseline thing negated BJ ground defense, the rubber guard and when he pulled GSP's head down to wrap his legs around his torso his legs kept sliding down. ITs clear GSP is bigger and better, in better shape and multi talented... so if he is cheating thats just stupid cause he has all the tools already.
 
This vaseline thing negated BJ ground defense, the rubber guard and when he pulled GSP's head down to wrap his legs around his torso his legs kept sliding down. ITs clear GSP is bigger and better, in better shape and multi talented... so if he is cheating thats just stupid cause he has all the tools already.

Right, but that's subjective and wouldn't hold up in an official hearing. Was BJ putting up a fight even when standing? No. His hand speed looked to have dropped off dramatically, and there was no power behind them. Even though an irrefutable assbeating took place, the fact that he had his back oiled completely jeopardizes the legitimacy of the fight and perhaps his career as a whole (which isn't to suggest he's been having his back oiled in between EVERY round of EVERY fight in his career, but it makes him lose credibility).
 
Well that's that, no punishment for GSP:

“According to sources close to the situation, the UFC has now instructed that cornermen associated with the fighters will no longer be allowed to handle the Vaseline used in between rounds to treat and prevent cuts.

The UFC will now provide one cut man for each corner for the fight. Only two people are allowed to enter the Octagon between rounds so if a cut man is necessary to apply Vaseline or work on a cut, one of the other cornermen working with the fighter must exit the cage to allow the cut man to work.”
 
How ****ing retarded. People pay money to get great cutmen. It's an advantage of having a superior team.
 
Well that's that, no punishment for GSP:

“According to sources close to the situation, the UFC has now instructed that cornermen associated with the fighters will no longer be allowed to handle the Vaseline used in between rounds to treat and prevent cuts.

The UFC will now provide one cut man for each corner for the fight. Only two people are allowed to enter the Octagon between rounds so if a cut man is necessary to apply Vaseline or work on a cut, one of the other cornermen working with the fighter must exit the cage to allow the cut man to work.”

Too bad i never had the cahonies to follow through with that bet of rashad
KO round two..! lol.
 
Well that's that, no punishment for GSP:

“According to sources close to the situation, the UFC has now instructed that cornermen associated with the fighters will no longer be allowed to handle the Vaseline used in between rounds to treat and prevent cuts.

The UFC will now provide one cut man for each corner for the fight. Only two people are allowed to enter the Octagon between rounds so if a cut man is necessary to apply Vaseline or work on a cut, one of the other cornermen working with the fighter must exit the cage to allow the cut man to work.”


Wow, who would have thought the NSAC would have found no real intentionality or wrongdoing on GSP's part.

:rolleyes:
 
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