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Bigschmidt821's official 3-AD log!!! follow me!

no set standard has been revealed, just know that when it comes out that he starteed at the recomended on the bottle (or what it will most likely be) and that he doubled it at one point :D is that still the plan 2 times the amount right? boy its great to hear people getting awesome responses from the standard and still be givin the suggestion to try double... really goes to show the suspected safety of the compound... given it is new and this is TESTING so it may not be the best in the end, or even necessary. more is not always better or most of the time even necessary.
 
Hey all,CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PRODUCT...I am going to try it for sure,especially after reading this log.I do have a question though,my training partner is a few years younger than myself,and I was telling him that I planned on trying this product because off all the positive things going around about it,and its not even out yet.He quickly asked me if it would be good for him to take as well.I told him I would try to actually find a decent anwser from someone more intelligent than myself.I was assuming he could maybe just for the fact that he really doesn't care to much about side effects but also because the safety of this supplement seems to be insanely high.So do you think I should tell him it might be ok or that he should completely stay away from something like this,also are any of the possible side effects very low risk.Oh by the way his age is 19.One thing I was thinking though,would he be able to take the PCT because I have heard some say that the PCT is actually the dangerous part for those younger folks...
 
Hey all,CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PRODUCT...I am going to try it for sure,especially after reading this log.I do have a question though,my training partner is a few years younger than myself,and I was telling him that I planned on trying this product because off all the positive things going around about it,and its not even out yet.He quickly asked me if it would be good for him to take as well.I told him I would try to actually find a decent anwser from someone more intelligent than myself.I was assuming he could maybe just for the fact that he really doesn't care to much about side effects but also because the safety of this supplement seems to be insanely high.So do you think I should tell him it might be ok or that he should completely stay away from something like this,also are any of the possible side effects very low risk.Oh by the way his age is 19.One thing I was thinking though,would he be able to take the post cycle therapy because I have heard some say that the PCT is actually the dangerous part for those younger folks...

19... To be honest, I think he should just EAT!
:hot: :burger:

He's got some time before he needs that extra boost!
 
really goes to show the suspected safety of the compound... given it is new and this is TESTING so it may not be the best in the end, or even necessary. more is not always better or most of the time even necessary.
If he didn't die it must be safe.:aargh:
Come on poopy......Invalid Link Removed

But maybe that would be a great marketing slogan; "You can take twice the recommended dose and it won't kill you...not today anyway"
 
the biggest key to 3-AD is protein!

high carb or low carb, is fine, but an increase in protein intake 2g per pound or more, really enhances the outcome........

Mace - I would expect this to hold true for any steroid. They increase nitrogen retention.
Carry on.



Agreed with B5150.
 
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Hey all,CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PRODUCT...I am going to try it for sure,especially after reading this log.I do have a question though,my training partner is a few years younger than myself,and I was telling him that I planned on trying this product because off all the positive things going around about it,and its not even out yet.He quickly asked me if it would be good for him to take as well.I told him I would try to actually find a decent anwser from someone more intelligent than myself.I was assuming he could maybe just for the fact that he really doesn't care to much about side effects but also because the safety of this supplement seems to be insanely high.So do you think I should tell him it might be ok or that he should completely stay away from something like this,also are any of the possible side effects very low risk.Oh by the way his age is 19.One thing I was thinking though,would he be able to take the post cycle therapy because I have heard some say that the PCT is actually the dangerous part for those younger folks...

You sir need much, much, much more edjumacashun on steroids.
PCT isn't the dangerous part. :drunk:

Don't let your 19 year old training partner use this stuff. Again (as mentioned) - tell him to EAT!!!
 
D@mn it. That's not what I wanted to hear. I'm married, so that's not going to do me any good. I guess after I start a bottle my post will say, "My hand is so raw, I'm glad it's arm and shoulder day, so I'll be tired when I get home."

that cracked me up because i was thinking same thing..
 
If he didn't die it must be safe.:aargh:
Come on poopy......Invalid Link Removed

But maybe that would be a great marketing slogan; "You can take twice the recommended dose and it won't kill you...not today anyway"

i did say "GIVEN THIS IS TESTING" and "more is not always better or most of the time even necessary.", so understand that means that it may not turn out well, im not trying to advocate this type of use just dicussing the fact that it was even suggested looks promising.

im just discussing the possibilities. i agree nothing is absolute until we see bloodwork and even then it should be from multiple subjects as not all will react the same. sorry i mentioned it, it does allow itself to misinterpretation.
 
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the plan i do believe is to double the dosing. like i said it may possibly start tommorow i will be sure to let everyone know. today is a simple rest day with carb loading....:food:
 
Hey all,CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS PRODUCT...I am going to try it for sure,especially after reading this log.I do have a question though,my training partner is a few years younger than myself,and I was telling him that I planned on trying this product because off all the positive things going around about it,and its not even out yet.He quickly asked me if it would be good for him to take as well.I told him I would try to actually find a decent anwser from someone more intelligent than myself.I was assuming he could maybe just for the fact that he really doesn't care to much about side effects but also because the safety of this supplement seems to be insanely high.So do you think I should tell him it might be ok or that he should completely stay away from something like this,also are any of the possible side effects very low risk.Oh by the way his age is 19.One thing I was thinking though,would he be able to take the post cycle therapy because I have heard some say that the PCT is actually the dangerous part for those younger folks...
21 is minimum age on this product
 
Mace - I would expect this to hold true for any steroid. They increase nitrogen retention.
Carry on.



Agreed with B5150.
i was answering the question, j! they asked what kind of diet! so obviously, knowing what all steroids do, doesn't help in this situation. they asked the question and i answered rather than saying, well, lets see since it's a steroid and all steroids enhance nitrogen retention than you should increase protein!

sounds kinda stupid for me to belittle him.

thus, i answered the question...............
 
Hey again guys,I've been reading around these forums...props to all,you seem to be a very intelligent bunch :cheers:.
I showed this thread to my partner and he simply replied that he didnt really care much about the sides and what they are but I feel he does not realize what may be the effects of such products like this.Even with a product like this that has a small chance of of sides,could you guys make a list of things that MIGHT happen as well as a list that would be common to happen on a product such as this as well as the sides of the pct.I find with younger people if you educate them in the risks they are less likely to go through with it and I'd hate to see him hurt his body
 
you shoud just inform him that he can get the same kind of gains at his age from a good diet and creatine, he really doesnt ned to e buying an expensive product like this, tell him to go to nutra planet and pick up some bulk crea mono and CEE and maybe even some beta alanine and Citruline maleate, he could prob get a good amount of all of that for near the same price and get GREAT GAINS with his own endogeneous test being very high, maybe suggest some activate or the like that will help his natty high test levels to be free'd up and usefull.

other then that scare him with the fact that substituting with exogeneous hormones at his age will hurt his natural maturation and these methods should be saved for when his body NEEDS them. or you could lie and scare him with stories of his balls disapearing never to return. :D
 
maxpower,
4lbs of lean muscle mass that doesnt effect overall weight. body fat dropped off roughly 2% which left me at around 250 still when i originally made that post, this morning i weighed in at 245 but i wont have body fat tested until monday morning. i never stated i lost nine pounds dont put words in my mouth or try and manipulate my posts to discourage others from reading them. i understand my log start off crapy but i had a busy few days at that point.
didn't put any words in your mouth bro, just clearing things up, I'm a little slow, no need to get defensive.:cheers:
 
i apoligize max i am getting to used to people bashng on me for things like that so defensiveness is how i come off so lets sit back enjoy that beer and enjoy the rest of the log.
 
yeah, Dr. D! and he is working for us on this project, therefore, we have been working on it since 99! any other questions? :duel:

From what I understand and have read if this is the same compound that PA is going to be using, even before DR.D looked at this compound it has been known about looked into by others. Also AX does not have a full patent on this, they are trying to get one as it is still pending.

It would be smart move if AX launches this sooner. Keep us updated.
 
I showed this thread to my partner and he simply replied that he didnt really care much about the sides and what they are but I feel he does not realize what may be the effects of such products like this.Even with a product like this that has a small chance of of sides,could you guys make a list of things that MIGHT happen as well as a list that would be common to happen on a product such as this as well as the sides of the post cycle therapy.I find with younger people if you educate them in the risks they are less likely to go through with it and I'd hate to see him hurt his body

Tell him I simply said he's a moron.

Sides: he'll grow a second skull and 3rd nipple, have his d*ck and balls fall off, and grow body hair like a gorilla (silver backed).


Seriously - growth plates close.
Some of us grew while we were in college (an inch and a half myself).
I'd rather be 5'11" at 27 than 5'9.5" but heavier at the time (19).

Mass will swing up and down - your height won't.
I've been heavier than 190 lbs (currently 170). I obviously haven't grown shorter.

The other thing is a chance at permanently screwing up his hormonal profile (I.E. much lower testosterone production than before the cycle).

All in all - a reasonable person wouldn't go about cycling at 19.
However - your buddy sounds like the typical "I know more than anyone else because I'm an invincible teenager!" kid. Ergo - I wish him the best in his endeavors (but don't say "no one told me!" when you can't get it up after PCT).

I would suggest he listen to people much more INFORMED about steroids than guessing (or whatever supposed intuition he has).
 
i was answering the question, j! they asked what kind of diet! so obviously, knowing what all steroids do, doesn't help in this situation. they asked the question and i answered rather than saying, well, lets see since it's a steroid and all steroids enhance nitrogen retention than you should increase protein!

sounds kinda stupid for me to belittle him.

thus, i answered the question...............

Yeah - I see that now. I didn't read the post to which you responded. I thought you had too much Skyline chili and forgot what steroids function as.
(God - that stuff is awful. Sweet chili? :run: )

Cheers bro. :cheers:
 
From what I understand and have read if this is the same compound that PA is going to be using, even before DR.D looked at this compound it has been known about looked into by others. Also AX does not have a full patent on this, they are trying to get one as it is still pending.

It would be smart move if AX launches this sooner. Keep us updated.
why would it be smart?

also, keep the stupid drama over at BB.COM! we have the product and it will deliver and anyone that wants to try the crap PA is going to release, then go ahead!

then come crawling back to AX afterwards when it doesn't deliver as much as it promises too!
 
Yeah - I see that now. I didn't read the post to which you responded. I thought you had too much Skyline chili and forgot what steroids function as.
(God - that stuff is awful. Sweet chili? :run: )

Cheers bro. :cheers:
no problemo! :drunk:
 
so right now i feel i would like to share the some of the effects of 3AD with everyone. there is a feeling that is quite different similar i guess to an Alpha Male mentality but not like a pissed off mood, but i feel super confident in everything i do almost like a feeling of complete superiority without acting like a d!ck. my mood is good and i feel like an unstoppable machine all day long. when i am in the gym i feel like there is nothing that cant be done that i must simply do it and that is that.

I was wondering if a prohormone would ever deliver this feeling again. I m thrilled about this product now. Can we pre-order I'll take 5!!
 
Well, I found this thread & now I'm getting sucked into all the hype too! But, just like w/ the SD & Emax cycles I've tried, I sat back, researched, and reviewed others logs before I jumped on the wagon & "tried" it.

I've had great results from both. I'm definitely looking forward to this coming out & seeing more result threads.

But for me, I like to see before/after pics.

w/ that being said-

subscribed....:D
 
serious this log straight up sucks!!! no stats,,, no updates day to day,, just a bunch of rambling I really hope AX did not make a mistake with you and make you a real tester... Im sorry i had to say it, with all the talk about this great product your killing the hype with your terrible log.....
 
serious this log straight up sucks!!! no stats,,, no updates day to day,, just a bunch of rambling I really hope AX did not make a mistake with you and make you a real tester... Im sorry i had to say it, with all the talk about this great product your killing the hype with your terrible log.....

Make a mistake by making him a 'real tester'?

I don't really think you HAD to say that, whatever that may mean, but thanks for adding something useful to the thread.
 
hey bulk why dont u tell me what it is you want. i have given my stats everyday i post my workout i have given the outline to my diet. or today i said i was on an off day. i have given LBM gains body fat% drop. tell me what else u want.forgive me for not sitting on here all day long i am engaged and have alot to do other than sit here and keep you happy. have a problem with kevin choosing me as a tester than email him or PM him and take it up. or go to BB.com. until then.....
:FUfinger:
 
why would it be smart?

also, keep the stupid drama over at BB.COM! we have the product and it will deliver and anyone that wants to try the crap PA is going to release, then go ahead!

then come crawling back to AX afterwards when it doesn't deliver as much as it promises too!

Not posting drama just the TRUTH. And if you dont want drama why start a 900 page thread with 28000 posts about something that has not even been released. :think:

Dont get offended, I do plan on supporting AX if this product delivers.
 
Hey everyone, my name is Jake and I am Matt's Partner in training.I really want to take the 3-ad product with him. I still plan to take this product because so far it doesn't seem like any of you think it will affect my height or my weiner...unless someone actually can say that it would indeed have a good chance of messing with my height and "stuff".Sorry to be stubborn but after reading about this product it just seems like the pro's outway the cons if it wont affect those things.
 
Hey everyone, my name is Jake and I am Matt's Partner in training.I really want to take the 3-ad product with him. I still plan to take this product because so far it doesn't seem like any of you think it will affect my height or my weiner...unless someone actually can say that it would indeed have a good chance of messing with my height and "stuff".Sorry to be stubborn but after reading about this product it just seems like the pro's outway the cons if it wont affect those things.

I take it you are the 19 year old in question??
 
Interesting read, so far. Are the other testers logging, as well? I'd be very interested to "grill" the McDonald's Diet tester on how things are going for him.
 
Hey everyone, my name is Jake and I am Matt's Partner in training.I really want to take the 3-ad product with him. I still plan to take this product because so far it doesn't seem like any of you think it will affect my height or my weiner...unless someone actually can say that it would indeed have a good chance of messing with my height and "stuff".Sorry to be stubborn but after reading about this product it just seems like the pro's outway the cons if it wont affect those things.

did you see the comment on growth plates closing? thats in reference to your growth SO yes its able to effect your height and YES it will effect your weiner. so hold off and youll be just as happy with some creatine and a healthy diet.
 
the mcdonalds tester is already finished but i know him and that is very true as to what happened for him as far as results. oh and bulkpower...i just did two pushups and drank a sip of light lemonade with glutamine and now i am burning .001 calories by typing this. is that specific enough for you and everyone else?
 
the mcdonalds tester is already finished but i know him and that is very true as to what happened for him as far as results. oh and bulkpower...i just did two pushups and drank a sip of light lemonade with glutamine and now i am burning .001 calories by typing this. is that specific enough for you and everyone else?

Can we get him to post about his experiences? I want to know what kinds of maucle gain and fat loss he had, etc. That'd address the issue of whether diet matters much at all (aside from increasin your protein), for everyone that keeps asking about low vs. high carb, etc. If he did well on mcDonald's then we'll know we're in for a treat as far as how strict or loose we can be w/ our diets on this.
 
one tester was eating those lil easter chocolates with the sweet orange gooey stuff inside while taking testing 3AD and still lost body fat! that hopefully helps wit how loose u can be
 
Hey everyone, my name is Jake and I am Matt's Partner in training.I really want to take the 3-ad product with him. I still plan to take this product because so far it doesn't seem like any of you think it will affect my height or my weiner...unless someone actually can say that it would indeed have a good chance of messing with my height and "stuff".Sorry to be stubborn but after reading about this product it just seems like the pro's outway the cons if it wont affect those things.

Alright - you are most likely the 19 yr old.

Hai Jake - read my post on the prior page. (You'll know it from the big azz tits in my av - Marzia Prince, noted fitness industry model. You'll grow tits if you take 3-AD.)
 
Yes I am the 19 year old Matt said I could use his name to post seeing as he joined just to get a response for my question.I thought 3-ad had a low aromtization to estrogen rate so how does that mean big boobs for me?
 
one wehn i got "called out" as you say i just began this log and barely had time to say anything hwile i was away ppl posted a bunch. so bulkpower what is it you want from me. LBM gains, prior experiance, fat % lost so my log isnt technical if ppl dont like it i aint forcing them to read it. its here for whoever dont like it dont read it. i aint here to be ur friend or plz you in any sense i am doin the best i can to give ppl my experiances with 3AD whch i am discussing not a day to day nonstop boring post fest, poopy had a log similar to mine for epistane. you b!tch bout his too? (logging that i just itched my nose) so for everyone who dont like my log, dont read it it wont effect the way that i sleep tonight
 
• Flat Dumbbell Presses: 3 warmup sets, 3 working sets at max working poundage for as many reps as you can
• Incline Dumbbell Presses: 1 warmup set, 3 working sets at max working poundage for as many reps as you can
• Flat Flyes: 4 Sets in ascending weight, 12-15 reps
• Incline Flyes: 4 sets in ascending weight, 12-15 reps
• Dips: 3 sets to all out failure
this will be my chest workout tommorow morning followed by a cooldown cardio session
 
Big,

All im saying is folks really look at the details, thats what they want they wanna see your weight go up day to day or drop and ect ect to see if this is a product they want to go with..... key details like that make a log which thats why we have them... I'll just stop sorry for being a prick..
 
look i aint gonna lie to u guys hate numbers i am old school. i judge it by the mirror and i spend alot of time staring at it just to decide what is next. i normally choose my workout right before to decide what needs to be worked on next. i dont step on a scale everyday when i started 3AD was the first tiem i stepped on a scale since december when i boxed that ois how much numbers mean to me. i hate the guys in the gym wit there lil notebooks writting everything down. i just do what works what makes me grow. a year ago i was roughly 37% bodyfat and now i am 18% just doing the same old if it wasnt for me testing 3AD i wouldnt even had known what i am today. i am giving my experiances everyday to the best i can. my training methods and diet are unorthodox and i argue all the time with ppl until i realized i dont care i see results with them that is what matters to me.
 
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