Biggest Concerns Using AAS

Biggest Concern Using AAS

  • Cardiovascular health (includes cholesterol)

    Votes: 176 32.7%

  • Liver Health

    Votes: 112 20.8%

  • HPTA shutdow

    Votes: 151 28.1%

  • other

    Votes: 99 18.4%
  • Total voters
    538
For me is the long term risks of not being able to have kids. Followed by hairloss... Single old fart with no hair... what a picture...
 
I voted Cardiovascular health, if you inject your liver is ok, don't use too long and you HTPa should recover. If your left ventrical enlarges I have no idea what you do.
 
i scared about everything you guys are afraid of put together, im actually stoping right now and just working out naturally from now on
 
ya i posted liver just cause my past usage through out my teens with multiple and combined "fun" things coiuldnt have left my liver in a very good state. so i hope that all the precations i now take to support my body in all its functions are actually able to make up for all those years i beat the crap out of it:frustrate
 
texas said:
i scared about everything you guys are afraid of put together, im actually stoping right now and just working out naturally from now on
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Nobody likes a quitter!!! Just kidding bro.
 
HPTA for me as I get older it takes longer for my boys to recover and the feds would be my next choice. I hate clomid it makes u feel all over girly emotional. My cycle usage was from 22 to 25 nothing from 26 to 32 and now I am going to hit my third cycle in 2 years I like using eq deca because u keep your gains. my next cycle is turnobol and IGF this will be my second time using an oral in 2 years.
 
sctxms said:
HPTA for me as I get older it takes longer for my boys to recover and the feds would be my next choice. I hate clomid it makes u feel all over girly emotional. My cycle usage was from 22 to 25 nothing from 26 to 32 and now I am going to hit my third cycle in 2 years I like using eq deca because u keep your gains. my next cycle is turnobol and IGF this will be my second time using an oral in 2 years.
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You should be worried about your boys...Your wife told me she was starting to wonder about your actual gender...just kidding..
at my age I would be concerned about everything...
 
I'm going to pitch this one out there.

My biggest concern is sterility.

Probably no more orals for me again and I seem to have a good handle on the lipids. So, sterility, is honestly my biggest concern
 
Liver issues are overblown.

I'm with Kwycke, and to a lesser extent, Deo.. Cardiovascular issues concern me, as do sterility issues from being on too long.. however this is up in debate.
 
Yeah... why is no one touching that debate :D
 
Wardrobe issues are a b!tch.
 
Kidney and liver damage are what worry me, but heart problems are a possibility to look for... i tell everyone i talk to about aas to get their blood work done just to make sure everything is good.
 
Ubiquitous said:
Liver issues are overblown.

I'm with Kwycke, and to a lesser extent, Deo.. Cardiovascular issues concern me, as do sterility issues from being on too long.. however this is up in debate.
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Could using HCG Swales Protocol during cycle help to diminish the fertility issues?
 
cardio vascular your heart is the biggest concern what alot of people dont realize is aas makes the heart grow larger and clogs up the artries as well and screws up your immunse system , and raises bad cholestrol as well. i only do 1 cycle a year.
 
1ad man said:
cardio vascular your heart is the biggest concern what alot of people dont realize is anabolic steroids makes the heart grow larger and clogs up the artries as well and screws up your immunse system , and raises bad cholestrol as well. i only do 1 cycle a year.
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One cycle a year. Well then you should be just fine. Except for the fact you stack dbol and m1t together while using a gram of test you dumb ****. That will **** you up faster than two to three moderate injectible cycles a year. God I am glad you are no longer a member here.


Sorry if I offended anyone else except "the roid monkey"
 
honestly i think HPTA....i think most endoorcinologist will tell u that also. Most even say continuous use will shut down ur HPTA permanently..n im sorry but i need my nuts! with out the testes ur D*** aint the same and with out u **** your body aint the same..wats serves purpose after that? lol..but defenitely cardio vascular health is more life threatening. tough choice..just my 2 cents
 
i try to do as many things as possible to make the cycles effective but more importantly, safe.

proper ancilliaries for everything of keep that gear away from me.

my biggest concern is ED. If i use the wrong combo or not enough test say goodbye to my sex life.

you can keep your lipids somewhat in check and get them back in order with post cycle therapy, you can use hcg for the hpta and for sterility, and you can use 100 different things to boost your liver but if you lose your **** you are dealing with some seriously uncool ****.


EDIT: i wonder what board saluu the roid monkey is off to next
 
my biggest concern always is gyno I'm just paranoid i guess but it is something I can see. as far as liver heart etc I just make sure I have all my supports and trust them to work and keep up my cardio. And yes like pitbull said the legal aspects are always a concern
 
I'm just curious, what do guys like cutler, coleman, jackson do? They obviously have to use something every year to be able to compete, and even with pct I would think their hpta would be kinda ****ed.
 
kappaz said:
I'm just curious, what do guys like cutler, coleman, jackson do? They obviously have to use something every year to be able to compete, and even with post cycle therapy I would think their hpta would be kinda ****ed.
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they are always on cycle. They cruise at a lower dosage of gear and then jack it up by a few grams when they are preparing for a show.
 
I don't think I'd be able to pick just one major concern. All of the major side effects have led me to give up on anabolic use. I want to have children someday, so the even faint possibility of sterility scares me. I've experienced prostate hypertrophy from anabolics, and don't need to go there again. I've experienced erectile difficulties because of anabolic use, and that led to some of the most embarrasing and emasculating experiences of my life. I have mild gyno from a substance that wasn't supposed to be able to cause such problems (before more was really known about it), and despite the fact I had nolvadex on hand as advised and used it when difficulties arised. Throw in the possibility of future cardiovascular problems on top of all of the aforementioned difficulties and that was enough to convince me to sell my stash of goodies and go natural from here on out.
 
max silver said:
I don't think I'd be able to pick just one major concern. All of the major side effects have led me to give up on anabolic use. I want to have children someday, so the even faint possibility of sterility scares me. I've experienced prostate hypertrophy from anabolics, and don't need to go there again. I've experienced erectile difficulties because of anabolic use, and that led to some of the most embarrasing and emasculating experiences of my life. I have mild gyno from a substance that wasn't supposed to be able to cause such problems (before more was really known about it), and despite the fact I had nolvadex on hand as advised and used it when difficulties arised. Throw in the possibility of future cardiovascular problems on top of all of the aforementioned difficulties and that was enough to convince me to sell my stash of goodies and go natural from here on out.
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Amen to that- I haven't done to many cycles but have had enough problems to stop myself. All Natural from here on out as well.
 
It was kind of fun seeing the large gains, but despite the fact that I typically did well thoughtout cycles, with proper ancillaries on hand I still suffered from a wealth of side effects. The recent rise of actual effective herbal hypertrophic products and test boosters made my decision all the easier.
 
max silver said:
It was kind of fun seeing the large gains, but despite the fact that I typically did well thoughtout cycles, with proper ancillaries on hand I still suffered from a wealth of side effects. The recent rise of actual effective herbal hypertrophic products and test boosters made my decision all the easier.
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What boosters have you tried?? I may have to give those a try. I had BP issues while using cycle support and C12 peptide....bodyfat is also 20%. Anxiety was/is a big issue for me as well- I just was prescribed Paxil for it. No real stressers in my life as well- I attribute it to the hormone use.
 
max silver said:
I don't think I'd be able to pick just one major concern. All of the major side effects have led me to give up on anabolic use. I want to have children someday, so the even faint possibility of sterility scares me. I've experienced prostate hypertrophy from anabolics, and don't need to go there again. I've experienced erectile difficulties because of anabolic use, and that led to some of the most embarrasing and emasculating experiences of my life. I have mild gyno from a substance that wasn't supposed to be able to cause such problems (before more was really known about it), and despite the fact I had nolvadex on hand as advised and used it when difficulties arised. Throw in the possibility of future cardiovascular problems on top of all of the aforementioned difficulties and that was enough to convince me to sell my stash of goodies and go natural from here on out.
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I'm in the same boat as you. The gains were great but after my first cycle side effects were too much. I make great smooth constant gains naturally now with out all the problems of hormones. I'm in the same boat as you. The gains were great but after my first cycle side effects were too much. I make great smooth constant gains naturally now with out all the problems of hormones. I enjoy lifting much more now knowing my gains are going to stay and my prostate and liver are happy at the same time.
 
Sea223 said:
What boosters have you tried?? I may have to give those a try. I had BP issues while using cycle support and C12 peptide....bodyfat is also 20%. Anxiety was/is a big issue for me as well- I just was prescribed Paxil for it. No real stressers in my life as well- I attribute it to the hormone use.
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So far I've tried fenotest, NHA stack (rebound xt+activate) and powerfull/cissus. My favorite was when I combined powerfull and NHA together, along with some fenotest that I had left over. Strength and mass gains were absolutely off the chart, and it felt similar to steroid/prosteroid cycles I had run.
 
max silver said:
So far I've tried fenotest, NHA stack (rebound xt+activate) and powerfull/cissus. My favorite was when I combined powerfull and NHA together, along with some fenotest that I had left over. Strength and mass gains were absolutely off the chart, and it felt similar to steroid/prosteroid cycles I had run.
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Thanks brother- I might give that a try. Good luck in the future from here on out.
 
Rx Lift said:
Cardiovascular - horrid lipid profiles, left ventricular hypertrophy, cardiac growth.

Ever wonder why so many bodybuilders seem to die from a heart attack?
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Can you name any?

I have been following this sport since the late 60's and I don't know a single one.
 
This is one of the best threads I've read in a while. Thank you for all your posts and your stories. I have really been on the fence with going with deca/tren for some seroius shredding. But when I remember my first pfull/crx and then my fenotest/anagen/crx I was high as a kit, felt like I could do anything in the gym and the overall confidence level was awsome. So being another wuss after reading this great thread and putting of the dark side until my first bulk...

My biggest concerns
-Getting good quality anabolics from an online source
-prepin and using properly
-Liver health
-prostate
-cardio health (blood pressure)
-nut rebound
-and if ed is a big deal, then what's the point of looking great if u can't do the deed.

Thanks again for all the great info.
 
HPTA, its your lively hood, theres nothing more important than that. Cardiovascular thats manageable, Liver health can be improved, if its not already too far gone. HPTA is a gamble, some people loose it and to me they are screwed for life, even with HRT, our balance of hormones plays a big role in our personality. Our endogenous test levels are constantly changing all day, which will also play a role in why you are who you are. I believe this aspect of these drugs is lost, the mental aspect of what the hormones actually do to your mind.
 
2RIIPPED said:
HPTA, its your lively hood, theres nothing more important than that. Cardiovascular thats manageable, Liver health can be improved, if its not already too far gone. HPTA is a gamble, some people loose it and to me they are screwed for life, even with HRT, our balance of hormones plays a big role in our personality. Our endogenous test levels are constantly changing all day, which will also play a role in why you are who you are. I believe this aspect of these drugs is lost, the mental aspect of what the hormones actually do to your mind.
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This is my biggest concern too - the inability of the body to get back to normal hormone production and what that does to the body and mind. Plus being sterile - I still want one more kid at least.
 
I hear you all on the HPTA stuff, bloodwork has always been positive for me, but I haven't done a real cycle in like 4 years (Just messed with Ergo / SD in the last 2).

Has anyone on here personally had HPTA total shutdown that wouldn't recover with proper PCT?

I can see the issue with the super long cycles (52weeks with no HCG), but I haven't heard/read about anyone doing a 12-16 weeker than had permanent shutdown.

Time to get HPTA back to normal though, that can be a *****. Sometimes 12 weeks :(
 
solarize said:
I hear you all on the HPTA stuff, bloodwork has always been positive for me, but I haven't done a real cycle in like 4 years (Just messed with Ergo / superdrol in the last 2).

Has anyone on here personally had HPTA total shutdown that wouldn't recover with proper post cycle therapy?

I can see the issue with the super long cycles (52weeks with no HCG), but I haven't heard/read about anyone doing a 12-16 weeker than had permanent shutdown.

Time to get HPTA back to normal though, that can be a *****. Sometimes 12 weeks :(
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Wow I haven't posted here in a long time and this thread is pretty old. Still pretty cool to see people responding to it.

When it comes to HPTA shutdown I have not met online nor in person anyone who hasn't completely recovered after a cycle given they stay off long enough and take the proper steps to a full recovery after the cease exogenous hormone use. But I cannot speak for the few that might be hiding something.

It seems that when you hear stories of people not recovering properly it is usually younger guys between 18-21 who really don't have any business messing around w/ stuff anyways and they never did a proper post cycle.

Stick to the basic guidelines here and you'll be fine. Don't freak if it takes 3-4 weeks for your balls to come back. They'll come back and you'll be fine.

The liver is exceptional at healing itself, and you won't die from somewhat low testosterone levels (on the very slim chance you don't fully recover). But your heart? Not something you want to mistreat. My .02.:thumbsup:
 
I have no concerns… I throw caution to the wind… I will use test until the cows come home

That just goes for mild stuff… I would use orals *very* conservatively – for short durations
 
I fear growing a backbone and hurting the ones that hurt me instead of being my good ol' passive aggressive self which seems to keep me from getting beat up by the jerks i encounter on a biweekly basis.
 
800mrunner said:
none!!! id rather live harder shorter than live weaker longer.
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That doesn't have to be the choice. Look at Robert Clapp and Bob DelMontique. Both have lived long healthy lives while using steroids non stop for most of it.
 
in order...

1) prostate gland
2) hpta function
3) cardiovascular/cholesterol
4) liver health
5) hair loss
 
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