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best topical for sub 10% bf

speedracer59

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My stats; 5'8 178 7%bf. I typically follow a 5 day traditional heavier, lifting 8-12 rep, bodybuilding type split. I do HIIT cardio following Stan Efferdings advise about twice a week. I mma, muay thai, jiu jitsu train approx. 5 times a week.I currently follow a 2000-2500 cal. 55,25,20 P/C/F diet approx. I am trying to lose the last little bit around the waistline and make my lower abs mo visible. What would be them recommended topical be, abliderate advanced, eviscerate, pump spray or another. I have used the both evomuse products in the past (the best results seemed to come from AA). thanks for any advise.
 
How old are you?

Look at Exotherm. The new AI/fat burner topical from BLR. I did some beta testing with extremely nice results!!!
 
Exotherm without question. It will shred you, and for the testers that were already in mid % BF, it really shined.
 
Ive used Evomuse Eviserate and loved it. Very good product
 
Your lower abs should be showing if you really are 7%. If your abs aren't showing well then your probably around 12%
 
MJW said:
Your lower abs should be showing if you really are 7%. If your abs aren't showing well then your probably around 12%
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I was thinking the same thing. I am at 10% bf and have a 6 pack when flexed. At 7% bf your 6 pack should be very prominent.

As far as a suggestion goes I think you will be more then pleased by either of the two products already suggested.
 
Eviscerate.

Eviscerate + = highest cap. content (strongest burn)
Eviscerate = step below
Eviscerate Smolder = step below
Eviscerate Burn Free Formula (BFF) = no burn at all

I don't notice any burn with Smolder, personally. I notice some with OG Eviscerate and have yet to use + so far.

The formula plus the consistency of the carrier is great. Matt updated it not too long ago and it's more like a gel almost, now, and I can apply it asap.
 
ELROCK said:
I was thinking the same thing. I am at 10% bf and have a 6 pack when flexed. At 7% bf your 6 pack should be very prominent.

As far as a suggestion goes I think you will be more then pleased by either of the two products already suggested.
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Could be. I am going off the skin fold test. This is a few moths ago @ 182. Im floating around 175 now. Lets go with 12%. I think Ill give the Exotherm a try.
 

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speedracer59 said:
Could be. I am going off the skin fold test. This is a few moths ago @ 182. Im floating around 175 now. Lets go with 12%. I think Ill give the Exotherm a try.
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Its tough to tell in that small pic, but you look about 10%-12% bf. Since you said you weighed a little more in the pic you may be lower now 9% or 10%. The skin fold test is garbage.

Regardless, I am sure you will enjoy the Exotherm run.
 
Anyone else have this issue?...

Without being too graphic, I took Eviserate before, applied for a few days evening time and ended up getting 'ring sting' for a few days after. I did not eat hot food to cause the issue.

I found the burn to be bearable but the 'other' burn was not very nice so I stopped.
 
Shin Sprints said:
Anyone else have this issue?...

Without being too graphic, I took Eviserate before, applied for a few days evening time and ended up getting 'ring sting' for a few days after. I did not eat hot food to cause the issue.

I found the burn to be bearable but the 'other' burn was not very nice so I stopped.
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Can't say I've ever had that one (or heard about it). Only thing I know is to wash your hands after application lol.

I'm terrified of what could happen after once putting my contacts in after making an omelette that just so happened to have jalapenos in it. That was a bad morning.
 
Shin Sprints said:
Anyone else have this issue?...

Without being too graphic, I took Eviserate before, applied for a few days evening time and ended up getting 'ring sting' for a few days after. I did not eat hot food to cause the issue.

I found the burn to be bearable but the 'other' burn was not very nice so I stopped.
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Lol at "ring sting"! Never heard that before. Such an educational thread:). You probably applied too much too lower back/love handle area and then had sweat transfer the Evisc down in the area. I'm real careful not to put too low on the abs plus I wear an tank top to absorb sweat. Keeps the heat where it's supposed to be for me.
 
Jebrook said:
Lol at "ring sting"! Never heard that before. Such an educational thread:). You probably applied too much too lower back/love handle area and then had sweat transfer the Evisc down in the area. I'm real careful not to put too low on the abs plus I wear an tank top to absorb sweat. Keeps the heat where it's supposed to be for me.
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x2 on not going to low and wearing the tank to absorb any that might take off on a ride via sweat

Smart man
 
Shin Sprints said:
Anyone else have this issue?...

Without being too graphic, I took Eviserate before, applied for a few days evening time and ended up getting 'ring sting' for a few days after. I did not eat hot food to cause the issue.

I found the burn to be bearable but the 'other' burn was not very nice so I stopped.
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I did quads/hams with EviscSmolder and had the "boys" warm up on a run once. Did glutes too, but never had it travel :)
 
I've gotten Eviscerate on my dick more times than I care to admit. Usually happens in the middle of the night or upon waking cuz wood. Dat lower ab application.
 
kdubson14 said:
I've gotten Eviscerate on my dick more times than I care to admit. Usually happens in the middle of the night or upon waking cuz wood. Dat lower ab application.
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Just to clarify...the "ring sting" refer to the back rather than front.

The front does seem to warm up too but much less uncomfortable than the rear sting ;)
 
Not to hijack the thread but can smolder be applied to the chest also? I've seen some put it on arms and hams and stuff but only really hearing about the ab region. I just ordered it for a little SAT, but might like to use it on my chest for a little tightening.
 
Stickerflick said:
Not to hijack the thread but can smolder be applied to the chest also? I've seen some put it on arms and hams and stuff but only really hearing about the ab region. I just ordered it for a little SAT, but might like to use it on my chest for a little tightening.
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Sure can. I use it on the lower chest to help tighten up a bit.
 
Im using Exotherm and vasoburn highly recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still have a ways to go but man it has done wonders look at my log and see I still have one last ppic to post before surgery next week. But what an awesome combo wished I could keep running them
 
Can someone recommend me a topical that contains 2% aminophylline and is also available in UK/EU?
 
MattPorter said:
Awesome breezy11 ! What show are you aiming for??? Are you tapering carbs according to progress or cycling them etc?

-Matt
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The New England Championships in Boston. I started tapering from 600g at the beginning of prep and moved to cycling at 8 weeks out. Progress continues to be solid and training intensity hasn't taken a big hit.

Thanks for putting out a quality product and all the info that you share. Much appreciated, Matt.
 
Let me know how that works adding clem I contemplated it but trying to refrain from any of that stuff used t3 and clen years ago lost alot of weight but lost a good chunk of muscle.
 
Mattabolic said:
The_Old_Guy you will not be disappointed! Wait let me.say this clearly one more time YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED! I have a gut and I'm 14.5 bf and I can start seeing cuts after only being able to.use it for a week and half max. It literally does wonders can't wait to see how it works when im.able to.get back to grind and down to 12 to 10bf il be rocking this stuff hard and exotherm my 2 new fav products out
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Any chance you've tried EvoMuse Eviscerate? Seems to be similar and I wonder if they compare.
 
ma70 I have not however my buddy.that owns his own supplement company said his Co worker used both and he liked.both but prefered vasoburn over it
 
Mattabolic said:
Let me know how that works adding clem I contemplated it but trying to refrain from any of that stuff used t3 and clen years ago lost alot of weight but lost a good chunk of muscle.
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I've seen no sides with topical Clen. 1 On/1 Off is what I'm doing now. Today will be my last day of Eviscerate Smolder...it's all gone (sniff).
 
ma70 it lasts atleast a month I was going more than u should cause I love the burning effect and almost used it for 2 weeks and still have half bottle.
 
kdubson14 said:
I've gotten Eviscerate on my dick more times than I care to admit. Usually happens in the middle of the night or upon waking cuz wood. Dat lower ab application.
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my main reason for still having an unused bottle still. the pain was just to much and it happened more often than im willing to admit.
a girl even complained one time cuz her lips started burning lmao
 
ericool007 said:
my main reason for still having an unused bottle still. the pain was just to much and it happened more often than im willing to admit.
a girl even complained one time cuz her lips started burning lmao
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That stealth brag. Nice dude. Haha.
 
MattPorter said:
Once a day 5-6 weeks

Twice a day 3 weeks or so...

-Matt
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Sounds good. I bought a bottle yesterday after you put up the code. I do once a day - front/side/lower back & glutes/hams/quads. Will be using with Clen. Figured it would be good to try out VB after two bottles of Eviscerate Smolder - to compare.
 
Intrigued by Vasoburn. How effective would this be if you're around 20% bf? Or would it be better for somebody like me to wait until I get lower before trying this?
 
BigGame84 said:
Intrigued by Vasoburn. How effective would this be if you're around 20% bf? Or would it be better for somebody like me to wait until I get lower before trying this?
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On his site it says it's best used if 15% and under.
 
I look at it this way - if topicals work (I believe they do), they'll work no matter what, you just won't notice anything like veins, etc... at 20% (and this is regarding Sub-Q fat, not Visceral - need AbAb for that). Like everything else, they are a speed enhancement to the loss if you have the money and want speed. You can get to 8% on fasted cardio, coffee, and a deficit if you don't mind waiting :)
 
Yeah, I think it's mostly visceral that I need to lose. It might be best for me to try AbAb to get that taken care of and then switch to Vasoburn after that.
 
I say stack abab and eviscerate/vasoburn if you can. That's what I did sitting 15-18 and i loved it
 
MattPorter said:
Just home site and some select brick and mortar stores --- no online retailers.

Lots of codes floating around IG and FB.....Gear10 is one of them

-Matt
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Thanks for the code. Just ordered 2. When I'm done with the current one I'm using (popular topical yohimbine type product) I'll try yours.

Any reason why one should not mix some liquid clen to the solution before its applied?
 
Jebrook said:
I just ordered 2 6oz. Bottles. How many general applications in 1 bottle? Is adding Clen into the carrier effective?
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Don't know if he can answer the Clen question from a liability standpoint, but my answer is yes, after having used Clenviscerate.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Don't know if he can answer the Clen question from a liability standpoint, but my answer is yes, after having used Clenviscerate.
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Ive used Clenviscerate too. I was just wondering if this carrier would work as well and also about the combination of Yohimbine and other ingredients with Clen. I'm curious to see the carrier and what type of consistency it is. Evisc mixes easily with Clen. Ab Ab not as well.
 
The Yohimbine should be no problem, as Eviscerate has it too. As for the rest, there is a thread or two where MPAVB is discussed with Clen and it was A-Ok. I just seem to remember Matt not getting into too much detail about it.
 
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