Best test booster?

[Chuck Diesel]

Ephedrine and caffeine.

Good one, I was thinking more of not including caffeine or a drug like alkaloid. Caffeine plus anything works for energy or in a thermo. Your body does not know
the difference between Ephedrine and noradrenaline so thats different. Kinda like saying coke works by itself or weed. The point is supplements that are suppose to do something naturally, in synergy in your body are not often achieved with 2 ingredients.

Anyway that's about enough with this thread. I'm like 1000% sure no one will come on here and say they have used a single product (test booster) that worked better than DTPV2 or DTH (80 Tabs), so I really don't have much 2 add here. Good searching everyone on your go to test booster or test boosting stack.

 

[thebigt]

The goal was to just throw a bunch of stuff in a big tablet and sell it as a test booster. But we kinda messed up bc it ended up being a very good test booster.

i am enjoying my run of diesel products very much!!!

on 2nd bottles of 2 products and all bought with my own coin!!!

and yes, they are some big pills!!!

 

[The_Old_Guy]

should have just bought some hpta and volume!!! trust me it aint placebo!!!!

I just looked...

Ingredients per capsule : Dosage: 3 capsules a day
Fadogia Agrestis: 400 mgs
Avenacosides 7% A & B: 50 mgs
Bulbine Natalensis: 350 mgs
3,4 Divanillytahydrofuran; 100 mgs
Eurycoma longifolia: 74 mgs
Anacyclus pyrethrum: 120mgs

Testosterone is reliably enhanced in rats, and fairly potently as well. However, the higher dosages of 100mg/kg appears to be either as potent as 25mg/kg or worse than nothing at all, decreasing testosterone. Dose is very important here, and a toxicological bell curve exists

Rat studies investigating how bulbine natalensis interacts with testosterone note that 50mg/kg (of a 10:1 extraction) appear to be the optimal dosage, and based on Body Surface Area Conversions,[8] this correlates into an estimated human dose of 8mg/kg or:

550mg for a 150lb person
730mg for a 200lb person
900mg for a 250lb person

These doses are currently only estimates, but they are within the range seen in the only industry funded trial on bulbine natalensis at this moment in time (which used 650mg).

And the Anacyclus looks under dosed:

Studies in rats use a range of 50-150 mg/kg bodyweight Anacyclus pyrethrum roots (DC) daily, with all tested extracts (ethanolic, petroleum ether, water) appearing to be effective. This results in an estimated human dosage range of:

550-1,600 mg daily for a 150 lb person
700-2,200 mg daily for a 200 lb person
900-2,700 mg daily for a 250 lb person

The Fadogia looks good though.

I'm doing it scientifically correct with properly dosed, single compounds. But thanks for looking out!

 

[thebigt]

I just looked...



Please tell me that those directions are incorrect. 1050mg of Bulbine? For 290lb'ers maybe.




And the Anacyclus looks under dosed: 360mg's?



The Fadogia looks good though.

I'm doing it scientifically correct with properly dosed, single compounds. But thanks for looking out!

looks like you must think the formula is pretty good since you copied it, lol.....could have bought a bottle of hpta for $25 and saved yourself some money!!!

 

[Danes]

Please tell me that those directions are incorrect. 1050mg of Bulbine?

No buddy
3 caps of HPTA is giving 350mg Bulbine. U need 9 caps to get 1050mg bulbine

 

[thebigt]

No buddy
3 caps of HPTA is giving 350mg Bulbine. U need 9 caps to get 1050mg bulbine

and what did you think of hpta?

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Nope, never even heard of HPTA. The "formula" is good because it mimics scientific research on natural Libido and Testosterone compounds. I first went to Examine, I then looked for single ingredients.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

No buddy
3 caps of HPTA is giving 350mg Bulbine. U need 9 caps to get 1050mg bulbine

Just found the actual label - you are correct, thanks. I retract the Bulbine OD comment - but now it could be under-dosed But some respond better to less, so... ok. The Anacyclus is still low though.

 

[thebigt]

Just found the actual label - you are correct, thanks. I retract the Bulbine OD comment - but now it could be under-dosed But some respond better to less, so... ok. The Anacyclus is still low though.

lol......good luck!!!!!

 

[Danes]

and what did you think of hpta?

Sick boners. 10 caps at day, it made me frustrated lol. Wanted to gang bang whole the time

I liked it but needed to stop due to Noro Virus. So I have more bottles which I gonna use soon

 

[kisaj]

Just found the actual label - you are correct, thanks. I retract the Bulbine OD comment - but now it could be under-dosed But some respond better to less, so... ok. The Anacyclus is still low though.

Do you really believe that you could notice a difference in some mgs of a blended test booster? I mean, if you aren't running any labs, then it is only seat of your pants feeling anyway.

 

[The_Old_Guy]

Do you really believe that you could notice a difference in some mgs of a blended test booster? I mean, if you aren't running any labs, then it is only seat of your pants feeling anyway.

Isn't it about dosing a product according to the doses found effective in (what little there are) scientific studies? I mean come on my friend, all this stuff is based on rodents in the first place! Can we at least have the converted for humans dosages that Mighty Mouse TM had

You're with BLR right? So a 50mg -(-)Epi dose in Follidrone would be fine with you, despite the science saying 200mg is better?

What *I* think or could feel, is irrelevant. If your going sell a product based on these very rodent studies, then dose it right! While I have no connection other than a customer, SNS is using A. Actual Prolensis TM, and B. Gives you 60 350mg Caps. That's how you do it right. Omega gives you 120 375mg Caps of Fadogia. And PES, whoa be unto them for a prop blend, gives you 3,200mg per serving - and you need up to 2,700 of Anacyclus, so they could be 100% good to go as well.

Dose the sh*t according to the studies that the companies are basing the product on in the first place - that's all we (consumers) are asking.

 

[thebigt]

Do you really believe that you could notice a difference in some mgs of a blended test booster? I mean, if you aren't running any labs, then it is only seat of your pants feeling anyway.

i love how you discount how a person feels and rely solely on labs, lol....a person can have higher range test levels and have no libido, and feel like crap......how you feel seems to me to be kinda important!!!

 

[AaronJP1]

What are people's thoughts on Fadogia Agrestis? I've heard positive & negatives.

 

[tin gorilla]

The goal was to just throw a bunch of stuff in a big tablet and sell it as a test booster. But we kinda messed up bc it ended up being a very good test booster.

This reads to me like "we were throwing together some severely underdosed, poor quality ingredients into a big tablet that we would claim could boost test. We surprised ourselves when customers actually stated it works, when we only intended to rip them off in the first instance".

This hardly inspires customer confidence or loyalty in your products.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

This reads to me like "we were throwing together some severely underdosed, poor quality ingredients into a big tablet that we would claim could boost test. We surprised ourselves when customers actually stated it works, when we only intended to rip them off in the first instance".

This hardly inspires customer confidence or loyalty in your products.

Thats how it was suppose to read.....it was a joke homie.

 

[tin gorilla]

Thats how it was suppose to read.....it was a joke homie.

Right. Except for the "severely underdosed, poor quality ingredients" part. Because that's a fact, not a joke.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Right. Except for the "severely underdosed, poor quality ingredients" part. Because that's a fact, not a joke.

??? Dude what the hell are you talking about?? What poor quality ingredients? So many of you "board members" are so quick to talk so much sht about GET DIESEL products. Yeah they are prob blended, also consequently they are the best out. Everyone on here with something to say like "underdosed blabla" isnt on my sht.

What's your problem with DIESEL TEST? You jumping on the "lets hate on GET DIESEL" bandwagon?

I literally have people all over the world emailing me about DIESEL TEST Hardcore and DTP V2, with their results
on the products, or them freaking out because they can't get it in their country anymore. You think some internet
ppl calling my products under dosed is suppose to do something? Like its suppose to make me list the formulations
to shut you guys up? haha.

 

[tin gorilla]

??? Dude what the hell are you talking about?? What poor quality ingredients? So many of you "board members" are so quick to talk so much sht
about GET DIESEL products. Yeah they are prob blended, also consequently they are the best out. Everyone on here with something to say like
"underdosed blabla" isnt on my sht.

What's your problem with DIESEL TEST? You jumping on the "lets hate on GET DIESEL" bandwagon?

Have you asked yourself why there is a bandwagon? Especially when many on it are not in any way affiliated to rival companies, but are merely educated consumers. I don't expect you to list specific quantities of each ingredient, as that would defeat the purpose of your prop blend, but I do feel you could topple the bandwagon if you listed the sources for each ingredient.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Have you asked yourself why there is a bandwagon? Especially when many on it are not in any way affiliated to rival companies, but are merely educated consumers. I don't expect you to list specific quantities of each ingredient, as that would defeat the purpose of your prop blend, but I do feel you could topple the bandwagon if you listed the sources for each ingredient.

The source? As in China, India? Or where to purchase them? Maybe you mean the extract potency? Which would be part of the formulation....

No I don't have to ask myself why there is one actually. When ever something is vastly different from everything else out, people don't like that. Been dealing with that since 2005 on here.

 

[tin gorilla]

The source? As in China, India? Or where to purchase them? Maybe you mean the extract potency? Which would be part of the formulation....

No I don't have to ask myself why there is one actually. When ever something is vastly different from everything else out, people don't like that. Been dealing with that since 2005 on here.

And the bandwagon rolls on...

 

[pyrobatt]

What is best daily test booster to take that doesn't need to be cycled off and increases libido, energy, mood, and assertiveness?

To be completely honest...if you're having a problem in these areas you may have one of 2 problems both of which require a doctors visit.

1. Something is "off" medically. Get your hormones checked out.

2. Something is psychologically "off" in which case it can be helpful to pick up confidence exercises. Most of the time, these issues come from within our heads.

Taking a test booster or ai year round unless medically needed is unhealthy.

We do have a test booster/really great libido product called canibal alpha but I wouldn't suggest taking any test booster year round. If there is something wrong..doing so can just "mask" the problem.

Can't believe I'm saying this as a rep for a company that sells a test booster. Haha! Shows you how honest I am.

 

[Joshlm69]

To be completely honest...if you're having a problem in these areas you may have one of 2 problems both of which require a doctors visit.

1. Something is "off" medically. Get your hormones checked out.

2. Something is psychologically "off" in which case it can be helpful to pick up confidence exercises. Most of the time, these issues come from within our heads.

Taking a test booster or ai year round unless medically needed is unhealthy.

We do have a test booster/really great libido product called canibal alpha but I wouldn't suggest taking any test booster year round. If there is something wrong..doing so can just "mask" the problem.

Can't believe I'm saying this as a rep for a company that sells a test booster. Haha! Shows you how honest I am.

Good response dude. I tried C&P alpha unfortunately the headaches from DAA messed me up and i couldnt continue taking, looks good on paper though

 

[thebigt]

Have you asked yourself why there is a bandwagon? Especially when many on it are not in any way affiliated to rival companies, but are merely educated consumers. I don't expect you to list specific quantities of each ingredient, as that would defeat the purpose of your prop blend, but I do feel you could topple the bandwagon if you listed the sources for each ingredient.

i really like diesel products and i represent a rival company!!!

 

[koi1214]

i really like diesel products and i represent a rival company!!!

Diesel Test Procycle & DTPC V2 are both excellent as a natty test booster.So are Alphamax & Viron.There are logs & reviews for all 3 here.

 

[thebigt]

Diesel Test Procycle & DTPC V2 are both excellent as a natty test booster.So are Alphamax & Viron.There are logs & reviews for all 3 here.

don't forget ironchamp hpta and volume 'ironstack'!!!!

 

[koi1214]

don't forget ironchamp hpta and volume 'ironstack'!!!!

As a test booster HPTA is excellent and has the reviews to show!!

 

[vujade]

As a test booster HPTA is excellent and has the reviews to show!!

I can vouch for HPTA & Volume. Definitely a 1-2 punch on the libido. Viron is also another favorite of mine too

 

[Building12]

Sounds effective.

 

[T-Bone]

I can vouch for HPTA & Volume. Definitely a 1-2 punch on the libido. Viron is also another favorite of mine too

LMAO both HPTA and Volume are complete garbage and severely under dosed. This is why they are completely forgotten about and I'm replying to a year old thread.

 

[Danes]

LMAO both HPTA and Volume are complete garbage and severely under dosed. This is why they are completely forgotten about and I'm replying to a year old thread.

Couldnt agree more.
Underdosed and I bet the quality of raws is nothing to brag of either.
I gave 7 bottles to my friend and he ran 10 caps daily. No change in libido or ANYTHING.

 

[Building12]

Same as Virectin, useless product.

 

[T-Bone]

Couldnt agree more.
Underdosed and I bet the quality of raws is nothing to brag of either.
I gave 7 bottles to my friend and he ran 10 caps daily. No change in libido or ANYTHING.

Funny how awesome and amazing they were when they were a sponsor....They sure did have some good "reviews". If you want to call them that. By the way I have some Placebro caps for you to try, they are "free" as long as you give a 5 star review.

 

[Danes]

Funny how awesome and amazing they were when they were a sponsor....They sure did have some good "reviews". If you want to call them that. By the way I have some Placebro caps for you to try, they are "free" as long as you give a 5 star review.

I am amazed. And its some how spooky/creepy..you just wrote exactly what I had on my mind lol

Even if it did something with 10 caps daily, HPTA is still an underdosed supplement and very expencive if you ran high dose (which is needed to get enough mg of ingredients).

 

[Chuck Diesel]

^^ ive seen something like this on these boards for over 13 yrs...great today....forgotten abt tomorrow.

 

[ELROCK]

LMAO both HPTA and Volume are complete garbage and severely under dosed. This is why they are completely forgotten about and I'm replying to a year old thread.

I definitely would not say HPTA is complete garbage. It is a pretty complete test booster with good ingredients. It is underdosed though. It needs to be ran at 6 caps ED or higher. So yeah it's not the best product out there, but definitely not complete garbage either.

 

[Olestra]

I have never experienced more noticeable effects from a test booster than from this specific product:

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Way back in this thread we talked about ginseng as an MAOI, hence its test boosting effects. In my experience this extract is the best siberian ginseng extract available. Very pronounced effect on libido/aggression/energy. And this is coming from a relatively young (24 y/o) guy. I'm not a salesman, just telling you my experience. There could be other comparable eleuothero/"siberian ginseng" products out there but this is the only one that claims a 50:1 extract and definitely was the strongest by far I have tried. I've also used other single herbs from this company with good success so I believe in the brand, personally.

A note about biochemical theory behind this kind of test booster: MAO-I's increase concentration of neurotransmitters by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks them down. Notably for test boosting purposes, dopamine is one of the neurotransmitters that MAOI's increase. More dopamine => stimulation of the pituitary for more production of Lieuteinizing Hormone (LH). LH stimulates the testes to produce more Test. So MAOI increases dopamine increases LH increases Test.

HOWEVER

This pathway will only work if other parts of the system (sufficient HDL, general operation of the endocrine system and testes) are working well. Some common negative feedback would be immediate conversion of increased test to E and DHT. Thus, and MAOI like eleuthero/siberian would not work to increase test. For that reason I suggest combination with an aromatase inhibitor (moderate dose, not so much as to kill E) and a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor (saw palmetto is the popular one) to maximize test. Also, if you are suffering from testicular atrophy, properly dosed fadogia agrestis and a quality bulbine natalensis should stimulate the testes.

 

[vujade]

I definitely would not say HPTA is complete garbage. It is a pretty complete test booster with good ingredients. It is underdosed though. It needs to be ran at 6 caps ED or higher. So yeah it's not the best product out there, but definitely not complete garbage either.

At 6 caps per day it was a pretty great product. And when Run with Volume i had a noticeable libido improvement
as well as refractory time improvement.

So i would not say what i said if it were not true.

Just because someone is not a board sponsor anymore, does not mean their product is garbage or worthless.
Yes the ingredients are underdosed, but when double dosed it works very nice. Maybe some of the ingredients
are not having an effect because they are still underdosed at double dosage, but i still stand by my statement
that it worked for me.

I have nothing to gain from it, Im not a rep for them or getting any compensation and even after running a log
for them, I still use their products and alternate between HPTA & Viron when wanting to run a test booster.

 

[Danes]

I can bet 1000$ 200mg of quality TA would do MUCH better job than 6 caps of HPTA.
The problem with HPTA is not just underdosed product but I really dont believe the ingredients are from good sources

 

[T-Bone]

At 6 caps per day it was a pretty great product. And when Run with Volume i had a noticeable libido improvement
as well as refractory time improvement.

So i would not say what i said if it were not true.

Just because someone is not a board sponsor anymore, does not mean their product is garbage or worthless.
Yes the ingredients are underdosed, but when double dosed it works very nice. Maybe some of the ingredients
are not having an effect because they are still underdosed at double dosage, but i still stand by my statement
that it worked for me.

I have nothing to gain from it, Im not a rep for them or getting any compensation and even after running a log
for them, I still use their products and alternate between HPTA & Viron when wanting to run a test booster.

No they were worthless and garbage when they were a sponsor, just as well as they are worthless and garbage now. It's just curious that now that they aren't a sponsor they are barely popular and never ever talked about. When they were a sponsor they were apparently the best of the best with all 5 out 5 star reviews. 5 out 5 means the best ever, nothing beats a 5 out of 5 product. Really, come on now. You really need to understand and look up the ingredients and dosages of products you are taking. I think you're a victim of placebo.

 

[Danes]

No they were worthless and garbage when they were a sponsor, just as well as they are worthless and garbage now. It's just curious that now that they aren't a sponsor they are barely popular and never ever talked about. When they were a sponsor they were apparently the best of the best with all 5 out 5 star reviews. 5 out 5 means the best ever, nothing beats a 5 out of 5 product. Really, come on now. You really need to understand and look up the ingredients and dosages of products you are taking. I think you're a victim of placebo.

Lets bet ?!
I bet 1000$ HPTA does not contain whats on the label and even IF it contain the ingredient as labelen , its very underdosed and low quality extract.

 

[thescience]

What is best daily test booster to take that doesn't need to be cycled off and increases libido, energy, mood, and assertiveness?

The general recommendation is that they all need to be cycled off. Sns bulbine is the best booster. Ive heard about cycles lasting 3 months and tried it with zero negative consequences. When Using test boosters chronically, i would suggest supplementing nutrients involved in supplying production, such as zma, vitamin a, vitamin d etc

 

[Volvo140G]

IronChamp USA was quite possibly the strongest name for any supplement company ever.

I'm in agreement, products were (are) absolute crap.

 

[Ape McGrapes]

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[xam2991]

??? Dude what the hell are you talking about?? What poor quality ingredients? So many of you "board members" are so quick to talk so much sht about GET DIESEL products. Yeah they are prob blended, also consequently they are the best out. Everyone on here with something to say like "underdosed blabla" isnt on my sht.

What's your problem with DIESEL TEST? You jumping on the "lets hate on GET DIESEL" bandwagon?

I literally have people all over the world emailing me about DIESEL TEST Hardcore and DTP V2, with their results
on the products, or them freaking out because they can't get it in their country anymore. You think some internet
ppl calling my products under dosed is suppose to do something? Like its suppose to make me list the formulations
to shut you guys up? haha.

Anyone with half of a brain can tell that diesel test is an awful, under dosed, proprietary blend of crap. I would never buy a diesel product.

 

[thebigt]

Anyone with half of a brain can tell that diesel test is an awful, under dosed, proprietary blend of crap. I would never buy a diesel product.

I would...been buying diesel products for close to 10 years. using diesel products right now, and getting ready to buy more!!!

I feel pretty good for only having half a brain, thank you!!!

 

[Volvo140G]

Anyone with half of a brain can tell that diesel test is an awful, under dosed, proprietary blend of crap. I would never buy a diesel product.

HEY EVERYONE xam2991 IS SHARING HIS OPINION BASED ON ZERO EXPERIENCE, LISTEN UP!!!

 

[xam2991]

I would...been buying diesel products for close to 10 years. using diesel products right now, and getting ready to buy more!!!

I feel pretty good for only having half a brain, thank you!!!

All that means is that you're able to garner a strong placebo effect from under dosed prop blends. Good job.

 

[xam2991]

HEY EVERYONE xam2991 IS SHARING HIS OPINION BASED ON ZERO EXPERIENCE, LISTEN UP!!!

Not sure what your basing the zero experience off of. Diesel test sucks ****. Alphamax, bioforge v3, and lj100 are test boosters i have enjoyed. If you think that anything with an underdosed prop blend is going to be a good product then you are just dumb. sorry lol

 

[thebigt]

Not sure what your basing the zero experience off of. Diesel test sucks ****. Alphamax, bioforge v3, and lj100 are test boosters i have enjoyed. If you think that anything with an underdosed prop blend is going to be a good product then you are just dumb. sorry lol

look at my join date versus yours...and you are going to question my experience...lol!!!
I have tried everyone of the products you have listed and I am buying diesel....have you actually tried diesel???