Best test booster?

cubsfan815 said:
Have you ran either one solo before?
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I'm running Alphamax solo at this moment for almost about 3 WEEKS already.ive gotten more lean and it gave me a little more strength

Before I stated alphamax I did some blood work and my test level were real low :( they were 272 :( but ever since I've been taking alphamax I feel better and libido went up:)I'm sure alphamax raised my test a little because I feel better

I want to boost my test the best I could ..natural..that's why im thinking of stacking alphamax with viron to see how it works

I also did a cycle of hdrol around 9 months ago but that was 9 months ago so I belive my test levels should be back to normal
 
pracata said:
I'm running Alphamax solo at this moment for almost about 3 WEEKS already.ive gotten more lean and it gave me a little more strength

Before I stated alphamax I did some blood work and my test level were real low :( they were 272 :( but ever since I've been taking alphamax I feel better and libido went up:)I'm sure alphamax raised my test a little because I feel better

I want to boost my test the best I could ..natural..that's why im thinking of stacking alphamax with viron to see how it works

I also did a cycle of hdrol around 9 months ago but that was 9 months ago so I belive my test levels should be back to normal
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If you havent ran Alphamax before I would prob. finish off your cycle. If you add in Viron right now and things start to get really good in the next couple weeks(as they normally do with alphamax) then it will be hard to pin point, was it the viron or Alphamax jsut fully kicking in.

If you have already ran Alpha in the past then yes i think it would be a great stack!!
 
Adizzle1 said:
Alphamax will likely be your best option for a testosterone booster for several reasons.

Alphamax will help to boost Free Testosterone and Total Testosterone through the combination of 3,4-Divanil and L-DOPA. Divanill we have dosed at a full 1400mg and L-DOPA we used a 98% extract providing 300mg per day!

Alphamax also contains a full 75mg Arimistane, which will help to control estrogen and produce a leaner/harder physique, as well Arimistane may have a potential effect on controlling cortisol, a catabolic hormone release due to stress.

Last but not least we have a full 50mg of 95% Forksolin, clinically proven to increase lean body mass and decrease fat mass. This ingredient standalone generally sells for nearly the same price as 1 bottle of Alphamax. To round it out we have a full 4000iu Vitamin D3 per day as well as 120mg ZMA!

Honestly for what Alphamax provides ie. quality of ingredients and full dosing, at the price its offered, its VERY hard to beat![/QUOTE

This looks good I was wanting to try a forksolin product.
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pracata said:
I'm running Alphamax solo at this moment for almost about 3 WEEKS already.ive gotten more lean and it gave me a little more strength

Before I stated alphamax I did some blood work and my test level were real low :( they were 272 :( but ever since I've been taking alphamax I feel better and libido went up:)I'm sure alphamax raised my test a little because I feel better

I want to boost my test the best I could ..natural..that's why im thinking of stacking alphamax with viron to see how it works

I also did a cycle of hdrol around 9 months ago but that was 9 months ago so I belive my test levels should be back to normal
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Are you going to be taking bloods post? Only way of knowing for sure if youre test levels have increased if this is your objective.
 
ucheoma said:
Are you going to be taking bloods post? Only way of knowing for sure if youre test levels have increased if this is your objective.
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Ever since I've been taking alphamax I'm feeling better:) it's the best natural test booster I've taken so far!I'm pretty sure it's rising my test and free test!

I decided to do the 8 weeks alphamax to get the full benefits from it..i still have 5 weeks to go..once I finish alphamax I think I'm going to do blood work again
 
pracata said:
Ever since I've been taking alphamax I'm feeling better:) it's the best natural test booster I've taken so far!I'm pretty sure it's rising my test and free test!

I decided to do the 8 weeks alphamax to get the full benefits from it..i still have 5 weeks to go..once I finish alphamax I think I'm going to do blood work again
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Awesome. Curious to see what the bloodwork shows.
 
jwinak82 said:
Adizzle1 said:
Alphamax will likely be your best option for a testosterone booster for several reasons.

Alphamax will help to boost Free Testosterone and Total Testosterone through the combination of 3,4-Divanil and L-DOPA. Divanill we have dosed at a full 1400mg and L-DOPA we used a 98% extract providing 300mg per day!

Alphamax also contains a full 75mg Arimistane, which will help to control estrogen and produce a leaner/harder physique, as well Arimistane may have a potential effect on controlling cortisol, a catabolic hormone release due to stress.

Last but not least we have a full 50mg of 95% Forksolin, clinically proven to increase lean body mass and decrease fat mass. This ingredient standalone generally sells for nearly the same price as 1 bottle of Alphamax. To round it out we have a full 4000iu Vitamin D3 per day as well as 120mg ZMA!

Honestly for what Alphamax provides ie. quality of ingredients and full dosing, at the price its offered, its VERY hard to beat![/QUOTE

This looks good I was wanting to try a forksolin product.
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We have Alphamax for $25.00

pracata said:
Ever since I've been taking alphamax I'm feeling better:) it's the best natural test booster I've taken so far!I'm pretty sure it's rising my test and free test!

I decided to do the 8 weeks alphamax to get the full benefits from it..i still have 5 weeks to go..once I finish alphamax I think I'm going to do blood work again
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I am glad Alphamax worked so well for you
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I'm on the end of the 1st bottle of each. I know that everyone says the second bottle is when it really kicks in. With the price being where it's at, kind of a big leap of faith. I expected effects similar to running activate xtreme and triazole.
 
bosshogg83 said:
I'm on the end of the 1st bottle of each. I know that everyone says the second bottle is when it really kicks in. With the price being where it's at, kind of a big leap of faith. I expected effects similar to running activate xtreme and triazole.
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I have not ran either, but most supps of those types will be better off when ran for 8 weeks (two bottles).

The same can be said with AlphaMax. The thing users report almost immediately is better sleep. Libido boost in about 2 weeks, drying out effects in 2-3 weeks depending on how lean the user already is. To really get the most out of it, it should be ran for a full eight weeks. TGB has AlphaMax for $25 a bottle right now so an 8 week run would only cost you $50 + their shipping rate.
 
bosshogg83 said:
I'm on the end of the 1st bottle of each. I know that everyone says the second bottle is when it really kicks in. With the price being where it's at, kind of a big leap of faith. I expected effects similar to running activate xtreme and triazole.
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effects of ironchampusa "ironstack" are usually felt within 1st few days!!! full bottles of both volume and hpta are $50 using code BIGT50OFF and following link in sig!!! reviews have been very, very good!!!
 
Danes said:
Incorrect
And depends what you mean with short cycles
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Incorrect what?.... if you have no idea what I mean by short cycles?
 
AntM1564 said:
I have not ran either, but most supps of those types will be better off when ran for 8 weeks (two bottles).

The same can be said with AlphaMax. The thing users report almost immediately is better sleep. Libido boost in about 2 weeks, drying out effects in 2-3 weeks depending on how lean the user already is. To really get the most out of it, it should be ran for a full eight weeks. TGB has AlphaMax for $25 a bottle right now so an 8 week run would only cost you $50 + their shipping rate.
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Thought that Alphamax already has 60 servings a bottle for 8 weeks. Why do you need to buy 2?
 
bosshogg83 said:
I'm on the end of the 1st bottle of each. I know that everyone says the second bottle is when it really kicks in. With the price being where it's at, kind of a big leap of faith. I expected effects similar to running activate xtreme and triazole.
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I ran both for 8 weeks and all I got out of it was raging headaches, yet if you write anything negative about this stack they crucify you. I'm a big fan of most of the PES range however. I did have realistic expectations leading into the stack.
 
alfeer said:
Thought that Alphamax already has 60 servings a bottle for 8 weeks. Why do you need to buy 2?
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It comes with 120 caps, but you dose 4 a day. The label states a serving is 2 caps and on the directions, one is supposed to take 2 servings a day. 4 caps, a day.

4 capsules total daily/120 capsules = 30 days. Per bottle
 
tin gorilla said:
I ran both for 8 weeks and all I got out of it was raging headaches, yet if you write anything negative about this stack they crucify you. I'm a big fan of most of the PES range however. I did have realistic expectations leading into the stack.
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Stand strong, it's more important to have honest feedback. I'm probably more skeptical of a product where I don't see at least one negative review.
 
AntM1564 said:
It comes with 120 caps, but you dose 4 a day. The label states a serving is 2 caps and on the directions, one is supposed to take 2 servings a day. 4 caps, a day.

4 capsules total daily/120 capsules = 30 days. Per bottle
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It seems generously dosed though. Do you usually recommend people start off with a lesser dose and work their way up, or is it alright to jump in for most?
 
roy_jones said:
It seems generously dosed though. Do you usually recommend people start off with a lesser dose and work their way up, or is it alright to jump in for most?
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A full dose of those ingredients would be at 4 caps per day. Use 4 caps per day, nothing more nothing less.
 
roy_jones said:
Stand strong, it's more important to have honest feedback. I'm probably more skeptical of a product where I don't see at least one negative review.
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Placebo is one of the most powerful things - therefore, "Logs" are BS, IMO (See: Steroid Placebo studies). While going from 300 to 1300 is something that even *I* would say has to do *something* (most likely with well being), jumping around the 4,5,6,7 range will do absolutely Jack She-ite as far as muscle building goes. Old guys can benefit because these roots and leaves have a *far* better track record for "horniness". Young guys? "All your money are belong to us".

No one is immune. I myself have purchased these "T Boosters". Now, I went off the science, and bought single, non-prop blended products (except for the Anacyclus Pyrethrum - only option is a prop blend). Since I had an 8 week stash gathering dust - I am currently 3 weeks into properly dosed Bulbine, Fadogia, and Anacyclus and..... waiting....

So much hype in this category - caveat emptor.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Placebo is one of the most powerful things - therefore, "Logs" are BS, IMO (See: Steroid Placebo studies). While going from 300 to 1300 is something that even *I* would say has to do *something* (most likely with well being), jumping around the 4,5,6,7 range will do absolutely Jack She-ite as far as muscle building goes. Old guys can benefit because these roots and leaves have a *far* better track record for "horniness". Young guys? "All your money are belong to us".

No one is immune. I myself have purchased these "T Boosters". Now, I went off the science, and bought single, non-prop blended products (except for the Anacyclus Pyrethrum - only option is a prop blend). Since I had an 8 week stash gathering dust - I am currently 3 weeks into properly dosed Bulbine, Fadogia, and Anacyclus and..... waiting....

So much hype in this category - caveat emptor.
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Very much agree, I hadn't anticipated becoming interested in ostarine, but I attribute it to the disappointment to come out of my typically newb initial interest in test boosters. We all seem to pass through the phases. This coming from a guy who is still dutifully working through a stash of fenugreek extract and DAA.

That's also why PA has had such a funny psychological effect on me because I try to be skeptical and yet I am pretty sure it's legit. I keep trying to reality check because the acute effects seem very sensible, subjectively.

I was interested in Bulbine and then seem to remember reading something about it being potentially hepatotoxic. If Anacyclus is what's in ABE, then I'm curious to give it a go. Honestly, people like that product so much that as someone completely without knowledge, I wonder whether that extract might be a mild PH or something.
 
Heres a few problems with Test boosters:

1) No matter what a company claims their test booster can do, results of a test booster cannot be achieved
by just dumping a bunch of caffeine in them as w preworkouts.

2) Boosting test is more like getting the correct amount of protein, but people think a natty test booster
is suppose to produce results like superdrol or something.

3) Companies want that 1 shot 1 kill $15/kg test boosting ingredient and it doesnt exist.

4) A lot of people really don't know what is working for them or not because they are stacking liike 3 test
or libido products from a company to get any results.

You have to decide what you want out of a natural test booster. Do you want it to get ur nuts back to size PCT?
Do you want an alpha male attitude, do you want increased strength, drive in the gym?

I'd say out of all the supplement categories, protein, preworkouts, thermos, multi-vitamins, Test Boosters are
the hardest to achieve success in because you cant caffeine up a test booster and good results do not come cheap.
A sht load of zinc and D3 doesnt make a good test booster but a sht load of caffeine and a nootropic makes a good
preworkout and thermo.
 
roy_jones said:
That's also why PA has had such a funny psychological effect on me because I try to be skeptical and yet I am pretty sure it's legit. I keep trying to reality check because the acute effects seem very sensible, subjectively.
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PA has a lot of in vivio, human data. I wouldn't classify it in this category.


I was interested in Bulbine and then seem to remember reading something about it being potentially hepatotoxic.
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A follow on, mfg sponsored (Prolensis TM) study, found no hepatoxicity, relative to placebo. Mr. Cooper said toxicity studies can't really be fudged, and it would be stupid to do so anyway, and that does make sense to me.


If Anacyclus is what's in ABE, then I'm curious to give it a go. Honestly, people like that product so much that as someone completely without knowledge...
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It is, and it has some good Rat data on it, as does Bulbine and Fadogia - check Examine.com


I wonder whether that extract might be a mild PH or something.
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No.

"It is thought Anacyclyus works via stimulating the hypothalamus, as the alkylaimde class of molecules (also seen in Spilanthes Acmella / Maca) have been known to work in this manner."

"... Like A Mild Pro-Hormone" is pure marketing. And what's mild? I added 30lbs to Squat and Deadlift with the DHEA's - and they are "mild". So roots and leaves milder than that = what? 10lbs over 8 weeks? 5? What would plain Natural Progression (experience dependent) net you in 8 weeks?

Edited: Changed Bench to Deadlift. Typo. My Bench sucks - shoulder.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Placebo is one of the most powerful things - therefore, "Logs" are BS, IMO (See: Steroid Placebo studies). While going from 300 to 1300 is something that even *I* would say has to do *something* (most likely with well being), jumping around the 4,5,6,7 range will do absolutely Jack She-ite as far as muscle building goes. Old guys can benefit because these roots and leaves have a *far* better track record for "horniness". Young guys? "All your money are belong to us".

No one is immune. I myself have purchased these "T Boosters". Now, I went off the science, and bought single, non-prop blended products (except for the Anacyclus Pyrethrum - only option is a prop blend). Since I had an 8 week stash gathering dust - I am currently 3 weeks into properly dosed Bulbine, Fadogia, and Anacyclus and..... waiting....

So much hype in this category - caveat emptor.
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should have just bought some hpta and volume!!! trust me it aint placebo!!!!
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Heres a few problems with Test boosters:

1) No matter what a company claims their test booster can do, results of a test booster cannot be achieved
by just dumping a bunch of caffeine in them as w preworkouts.

2) Boosting test is more like getting the correct amount of protein, but people think a natty test booster
is suppose to produce results like superdrol or something.

3) Companies want that 1 shot 1 kill $15/kg test boosting ingredient and it doesnt exist.

4) A lot of people really don't know what is working for them or not because they are stacking liike 3 test
or libido products from a company to get any results.

You have to decide what you want out of a natural test booster. Do you want it to get ur nuts back to size PCT?
Do you want an alpha male attitude, do you want increased strength, drive in the gym?

I'd say out of all the supplement categories, protein, preworkouts, thermos, multi-vitamins, Test Boosters are
the hardest to achieve success in because you cant caffeine up a test booster and good results do not come cheap.
A sht load of zinc and D3 doesnt make a good test booster but a sht load of caffeine and a nootropic makes a good
preworkout and thermo.
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Main problem is,:

-Making a test booster with 10-20 ingredients and hoping that one of those would MAYBE do anything

-no mattet how high dosage of each ingredient is, when its low quality.
-no matter how quality ingredients are used if the product is underdosed
-to many are using a combination og low dose and low quality ingredients.

"4) A lot of people really don't know what is working for them or not because they are stacking liike 3 test*
or libido products from a company to get any results."

Well it does not need to be 3 products. You would not know what worked for you if you ran a product with 2-10ingredients in one product either.
 
Danes said:
Main problem is,:

-Making a test booster with 10-20 ingredients and hoping that one of those would MAYBE do anything

-no mattet how high dosage of each ingredient is, when its low quality.
-no matter how quality ingredients are used if the product is underdosed
-to many are using a combination og low dose and low quality ingredients.

"4) A lot of people really don't know what is working for them or not because they are stacking liike 3 test*
or libido products from a company to get any results."

Well it does not need to be 3 products. You would not know what worked for you if you ran a product with 2-10ingredients in one product either.
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I don't know if this is some smart comment about a GET DIESEL test booster, as they each have over 10 ingredients, but you seem like someone
who has never used any GET DIESEL test booster, or not many at all. A product or supplement is no different than building a bld, a house, a pizza,
a cake, etc. One ingredient isn't know to do much of anything in any industry. Why do you expect one or two ingredients to "build" a perfect test booster?

You ever had a good slice of pizza made of just cheese and flour? Also you seem to have some type of attitude toward test boosters. If you do not
believe in them don't use them. I can't drink Whey, I'm not angry at whey.
 
Danes said:
Main problem is,:

-Making a test booster with 10-20 ingredients and hoping that one of those would MAYBE do anything

-no mattet how high dosage of each ingredient is, when its low quality.
-no matter how quality ingredients are used if the product is underdosed
-to many are using a combination og low dose and low quality ingredients.

"4) A lot of people really don't know what is working for them or not because they are stacking liike 3 test*
or libido products from a company to get any results."

Well it does not need to be 3 products. You would not know what worked for you if you ran a product with 2-10ingredients in one product either.
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I don't know if this is some smart comment about a GET DIESEL test booster, as they each have over 10 ingredients, but you seem like someone who has never used any GET DIESEL test booster, or not many at all. A product or supplement is no different than building a bld, a house, a pizza, a cake, etc. One ingredient isn't known to do much of anything in any industry. Why do you expect one or two ingredients to "build" a perfect test booster?

You ever had a good slice of pizza made of just cheese and flour? Also you seem to have some type of attitude toward test boosters. If you do not believe in them don't use them. I can't drink Whey, I'm not angry at whey.

You consider Multi-Vitamins more effective if they only have 2 vitamins in them??
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I don't know if this is some smart comment about a GET DIESEL test booster, as they each have over 10 ingredients, but you seem like someone who has never used any GET DIESEL test booster, or not many at all. A product or supplement is no different than building a bld, a house, a pizza, a cake, etc. One ingredient isn't known to do much of anything in any industry. Why do you expect one or two ingredients to "build" a perfect test booster?

You ever had a good slice of pizza made of just cheese and flour? Also you seem to have some type of attitude toward test boosters. If you do not believe in them don't use them. I can't drink Whey, I'm not angry at whey.

You consider Multi-Vitamins more effective if they only have 2 vitamins in them??
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Might I ask how DTPV2's label lists a serving size of 1 capsule, and yet has a proprietary blend of 1.85grams listed for its contents per serving
 
De__eB said:
Might I ask how DTPV2's label lists a serving size of 1 capsule, and yet has a proprietary blend of 1.85grams listed for its contents per serving
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You just wrote how, I'm not getting smart but each tab (not capsule) is about 2200mg total. Its a "MEGA" punch size.
 
De__eB said:
Happen to have a picture of these horse tabs you're selling?

Because that's about 3x more than fits in "00 capsules.
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Idk where are you coming from with all these dumb a** questions, search DTP V2 and ask someone to send you a
picture of a DIESEL TEST tab. Caps and tabs are completely different. Manufacturing is something you should stay away from.

Been selling test booster for over 10 years to USP standards for weight waaay b4 GMP's became popular. Maybe you think
I'm some dude just making supplements with a cap-em-quick??
 
Chuck Diesel said:
Idk where are you coming from with all these dumb a** questions, search DTP V2 and ask someone to send you a
picture of a DIESEL TEST tab. Caps and tabs are completely different. Manufacturing is something you should stay away from.

Been selling test booster for over 10 years to USP standards for weight waaay b4 GMP's became popular. Maybe you think
I'm some dude just making supplements with a cap-em-quick??
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Can really tell the underdosed 28 ingredient prop blend has your aggression on point.
 
De__eB said:
Happen to have a picture of these horse tabs you're selling?

Because that's about 3x more than fits in "00 capsules.
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Actually, I remembered, I put a pic of one on FB because I was cutting them in half.

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Right click and hit "view image" and you can zoom in on what half a tab looks like

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De__eB said:
Can really tell the underdosed 28 ingredient prop blend has your aggression on point.
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^^ I like stuff like this....people on AM been making these comments for years and years meanwhile, guess who happens to have the most effective herbal test boosters out?? GET DIESEL. These comments don't bother me, I've very pleased with the results of GET DIESEL products.

Thanks for your feedback.
 
Chuck Diesel said:
I don't know if this is some smart comment about a GET DIESEL test booster, as they each have over 10 ingredients, but you seem like someone who has never used any GET DIESEL test booster, or not many at all. A product or supplement is no different than building a bld, a house, a pizza, a cake, etc. One ingredient isn't known to do much of anything in any industry. Why do you expect one or two ingredients to "build" a perfect test booster?

You ever had a good slice of pizza made of just cheese and flour? Also you seem to have some type of attitude toward test boosters. If you do not believe in them don't use them. I can't drink Whey, I'm not angry at whey.

You consider Multi-Vitamins more effective if they only have 2 vitamins in them??
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1: Did I mention your products? (Not my fault some of your products contain 10+ ingredients)
2: there are other companies who put more than 10+ ingredients
3: Who said I dont believe in test boosters?
I believe you have seen my knowledge about Tongkat ali etc,and If not, you can search.
4: comparing a product such as T booster to pizza is just LOL. Come on Chuck. Even a child would not say things like that!
Pizza is made with different elementary things such as crust etc but does a test booster need 10+ ingredients? Not at all!
Rather 1-2 or max 3 quality ingredients with solid dose (enough) than 10-20+ t boosting ingredients with low doses.
5:i am not attacking your supps at all but some of your products are underdosed and i really doubt the quality of all those ingredients. No chance it would be possible to sell it for that price if you had even 3 ingredients with high purity and dose
 
Chuck Diesel said:
^^ I like stuff like this....people on AM been making these comments for years and years meanwhile, guess who happens to have the most effective herbal test boosters out?? GET DIESEL. These comments don't bother me, I've very pleased with the results of GET DIESEL products.

Thanks for your feedback.
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Im looking over your ingredient profile. There are some viable ingredients in there but some things I dont understand. For example, why did you include l-arginine?
 
Danes said:
1: Did I mention your products? (Not my fault some of your products contain 10+ ingredients)
2: there are other companies who put more than 10+ ingredients
3: Who said I dont believe in test boosters?
I believe you have seen my knowledge about Tongkat ali etc,and If not, you can search.
4: comparing a product such as T booster to pizza is just LOL. Come on Chuck. Even a child would not say things like that!
Pizza is made with different elementary things such as crust etc but does a test booster need 10+ ingredients? Not at all!
Rather 1-2 or max 3 quality ingredients with solid dose (enough) than 10-20+ t boosting ingredients with low doses.
5:i am not attacking your supps at all but some of your products are underdosed and i really doubt the quality of all those ingredients. No chance it would be possible to sell it for that price if you had even 3 ingredients with high purity and dose
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The point is nothing is constructed with 2 ingredients, I used Pizza to make it very simple for you.
 
brundel said:
Im looking over your ingredient profile. There are some viable ingredients in there but some things I dont understand. For example, why did you include l-arginine?
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The goal was to just throw a bunch of stuff in a big tablet and sell it as a test booster. But we kinda messed up bc it ended up being a very good test booster.
 
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