best steroid for strength

[keninishna]

I don't think they use soy they use ground beef according to this link Invalid Link Removed however I wouldent be surprised to learn thats a lie. Taco bell makes me **** so bad but its soo good.

 

[mass_builder]

im just curious any one know by what mechanisim dose tren help in burn fat?

seems very interesting.

 

[bigGUNS04]

bro's- I LOVE TACO BELL, it doesnt give me the shits for some reason. I cannot eat mcdonalds though- it just doesnt sit well in the gut, after i eat the **** my stomach for 2 + hours will sit there and churn. WOoooOF i could throw up after eating it!

 

[Matthew D]

keep it on topic.. or start a new food thread

 

[Bouncer79]

Although I've never used it, I would say Halo for pure strength. Otherwise I'm a fina freak... moooooooooo

 

[Fastflight]

I wonder why Winny happened to be so underated?
Just started to throw it in for my Testcycle and it´s always a surprise how good it works.
Although I voted for dbol,I think nothing can beat winny.

 

[CROWLER]

i've always seen it in water, not oil. don't know if that would have an effect on it or not.

Good call.

That is because there is NO such thing as Test suspension in oil.

 

[jrkarp]

There are TNE/Test prop blends out there though...

/karp

 

[sarge]

Good call.

That is because there is NO such thing as Test suspension in oil.

beg your pardon my friend,but there is such a thing.I just used a 8 wk cycle of it a little over a month ago with good results.

 

[bobthebuilder]

i second that, test base can be suspended in oil. And chasec, the effect of test base suspended in oil would have is a slightly slower release rate from the depot.

 

[brandon79]

1-test cyp!!!!!!!

 

[theamazing3000]

Tren

 

[CROWLER]

Good call.

That is because there is NO such thing as Test suspension in oil.

beg your pardon my friend,but there is such a thing.I just used a 8 wk cycle of it a little over a month ago with good results.

No need to beg buddy. :wave:

TNE is acronymn for testosterone no ester. When TNE(Test No Ester) is used in water it's called test suspension. It can also be put in oil and some still mistakenly call it suspension but it's really it is in a depot.

 

[Boss_K]

but taco bell is so delicious
..is their chicken grade 3 chicken as well?

My cousin was a manager at taco bell and he said the only thing u should eat there is the chicken. Thats the only "real" food that is served from that joint. But damn those mexican pizzas are that FIRE! ****, i need to clean up my diet ASAP!

 

[theamazing3000]

only the chicken huh? Their beef and potatoe burrito is soooo good though.

 

[Bleeding_Fina]

I cant believe you had a poll like this and you left out Halotestin. And Cheque drops!!!

I say Halotesin with Tren at a close second. I cant comment on Cheque drops since I have never taken them.

 

[sarge]

I cant believe you had a poll like this and you left out Halotestin. And Cheque drops!!!

I say Halotesin with Tren at a close second. I cant comment on Cheque drops since I have never taken them.

if you look back through the post you will see i did say halo and tren.

 

[Poobah]

I've been on a Test enan/EQ cycle for about 10 weeks, At the 9 week mark I added tren 75mg ED... Was a total of 33 pounds up today (10 weeks 6 days). 7 or 8 more weeks to go. Anyway strength definately picking up, and 4 or so of those pounds came in the last week since adding tren. Not using an Anti-E, per say, In stead I'm taking 600mg 5aa cyp per week. But I still definately have a bit of bloat (not much)... and Very definately some fat gain. *Cry*

I'm wondering if I'll hit 45 pounds?

Edit: I should also point Out I'm using 15iu of humalog Everymorning, and pwo.

 

[acecombact1]

I've been on a Test enan/EQ cycle for about 10 weeks, At the 9 week mark I added tren 75mg ED... Was a total of 33 pounds up today (10 weeks 6 days). 7 or 8 more weeks to go. Anyway strength definately picking up, and 4 or so of those pounds came in the last week since adding tren. Not using an Anti-E, per say, In stead I'm taking 600mg 5aa cyp per week. But I still definately have a bit of bloat (not much)... and Very definately some fat gain. *Cry*

I'm wondering if I'll hit 45 pounds?

Edit: I should also point Out I'm using 15iu of humalog Everymorning, and pwo.

how much fat did you gain...whats the increase in your BF level?

 

[Poobah]

how much fat did you gain...whats the increase in your BF level?

Unfortunately I'm not to concerned with actively measuring it. I keep my diet very lean, especially during slin time. Gauging from my vascularity and belt notches I don't think I have gained much more then 5 pounds of fat. But It's all guess work at this point.

Up 34 pounds today...

 

[jjjd]

did you say FIFTEEN iu?

 

[Poobah]

did you say FIFTEEN iu?

No I believe I said 15iu.. lol

yes. I have not had any hypo issues what so ever... I have over 100 shots under my belt. I'm comfortable using 15iu.

Up 35 pounds today...

 

[mass_builder]

ok guys i just finished 4 weeks of dbol and i can say the gains are amazing. strength increased 10-15lb in all my lifts just in 3 weeks.

 

[Poobah]

Yea dbol is the bomb for short term strength... but if your only on dbol, it's more then likely 60% water or worse.

 

[Poobah]

If any one cares...

I'm currently up 43 pounds on my current cycle... 13 weeks so far. MuahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

okay.. this is beginning to scare me. :blink:

 

[KCPreki11]

wow...

 

[D_town]

poobah, you got a thread for your current scheme, if not what's it consistent of?

 

[Poobah]

Basically it's this.. looks complicated but It's not so complicated. Tren I sort of threw in mid cycle..

Week 01 - 04 50mg Dbol
Week 01 - 02 100mg Test Prop EOD
Week 01 - 02 100mg Boldenolone Prop EOD
Week 01 - 14 500mg Test Enanthate
Week 01 - 13 500mg EQ
Week 05 - 14 600mg 5aa Cypionate
Week 17 - 16 150mg Test Prop EOD
Week 10 - 16 75mg Tren Ace ED
Week 14 - 16 IGF-1 50 mcg ED
Week 17 - 21 Clomid PCT
Week 22 - 24 IGF-1 50 mcg ED

15iu Humalog Through out PWO
15iu Humalog for breakfast most mornings

10iu Humalog with IGF pwo, and on off days breakfast.

Nolva on hand.. but 5aa cyp is controling estrogen perfectly... letro also on hand.. perhaps for when stop 5aa cyp.. I might use proviron as well? or maybe even masteron haven't decided.

Probably doing way to much? But I'm enjoying myself.. and I'm not really having any sides what so ever.. I haven't even lost a hair on my head.

Deit is 350-450 grams of protein a day, 200-300 grams of carbs.. depending on whether I have 1 or 2 slin meals that day... calories 3000-4000 depending on the same. I eat very lean... (except muscle milk with skim milk for bed..).. and an occasional fattier cut of meat for supper.

Breakfast is usually a slin meal... with more protein in the middle. 100 carbs / 125 protein / almost no fat
Snack is 1 cup of cottage cheese 1% fat (2 grams total)
Lunch is 10.5 ounces of chicken breast
low fat yogurt
Banana
Veggies
Snack 1 cup Cottage cheese again.
Supper any cut of meat, salad or veggies.
Pwo shake if I workout.
Musclemilke for bed.

And it just repeats like that.

I'm sort of a fat ass.. and I guess i gain easy.. before this cycle I lost 135 pounds.. Check out what happened to my neck this cycle though...

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[D_town]

What neck?

 

[D_town]

Are majority of gains lean. I would imagine that the slin diet could be culprit for some of the immense gains. What you think? Cycle is a little overkill, but I can't blame for doing it. What's up with the 2 weeker of boldenone, leftovers?

 

[mass_builder]

43 LBs........dam

im on week 6 and i gainned 23 lb, and i look bloated like a balon.

you have a heavy cycle there........whats your status?

 

[Poobah]

Are majority of gains lean. I would imagine that the slin diet could be culprit for some of the immense gains. What you think? Cycle is a little overkill, but I can't blame for doing it. What's up with the 2 weeker of boldenone, leftovers?

Gains are very lean, my pant size as not changed... *yeah*

Can't say enough about slin.. You love it or your hate.. but regardless you know it works.. Just eat lean while on, and never **** around. Definately helps putting on the mass.

The 2 weeks of eq prop... well I figured to kick start with both test prop and bold prop... leading into test enan and regular eq.. But to tell you the truth.. that eq prop is the DEVIL... Talk about sore fvckin swollen muscles and flu like symptoms. Total sweat drenched bed on a nightly occurance. ANd the IBuprofin I was taking to function was stupid. SO 2 weeks instead of 3 was all I could handle.

My status...

I'm up to 318 pounds... 6' tall even.

I got a cut hard... after all this.. I'm not sure of BF%

Waist is 42"
Biceps 19+
Forarms 14+

Lifts :

Squating Free weights 350 pounds for 8 reps... (will do more this weekend, but I weigh 318 )
Benching 3 sets of 8 for 330 (at home on smith)

Edit: Forgot to mention, I also used Tationil week 5 for liver support.. and hcg Mid cycle.. and will use it on the home stretch toward pct aswell.

 

[artica]

Poobah,

How do you like the TEST PROP at every other day instead of ED?

 

[Poobah]

Poobah,

How do you like the TEST PROP at every other day instead of ED?

Well... unlike the eq prop I made myself.. the test prop I had was pharma grade... testopin 100.. completely painless, so its painless no matter what way you take it. but in the future, when I use my own.. I'd venture to guess I'd perfer ED shots, mixed with something else when possible. Little easier to take, and a bit steadier levels.. and less chance of Test flu.

 

[exnihilo]

Basically it's this.. looks complicated but It's not so complicated. Tren I sort of threw in mid cycle..

Week 01 - 04 50mg Dbol
Week 01 - 02 100mg Test Prop EOD
Week 01 - 02 100mg Boldenolone Prop EOD
Week 01 - 14 500mg Test Enanthate
Week 01 - 13 500mg EQ
Week 05 - 14 600mg 5aa Cypionate
Week 17 - 16 150mg Test Prop EOD
Week 10 - 16 75mg Tren Ace ED
Week 14 - 16 IGF-1 50 mcg ED
Week 17 - 21 Clomid PCT
Week 22 - 24 IGF-1 50 mcg ED

... Snip

:blink:

That looks like a good solid cycle bro. Don't let people try and push weenie cycles on you!

 

[Poobah]

That looks like a good solid cycle bro. Don't let people try and push weenie cycles on you!

, I tend to agree with that philosophy. No sense pussy footing around. :cheers:

 

[brandon79]

, I tend to agree with that philosophy. No sense pussy footing around. :cheers:

i guess.. but what is the point of looking sloppy? the lift numbers you qoute can be obtained naturally.. something isnt right in your training or diet.. but to each his own.

 

[exnihilo]

i guess.. but what is the point of looking sloppy? the lift numbers you qoute can be obtained naturally.. something isnt right in your training or diet.. but to each his own.

not to be a dick, but you should not make a comment like that. The lifts he's doing now indicate he at least had a fair base. There are people out there that lift more naturally than you will ever be able to lift no matter how much juice you use - so obviously what is attainable naturally shouldn't be a guide for when everyone starts on the juice (if they so desire). If his diet and training aren't in order he will deflate when he gets off the gear, and that will be a good indication that he needed to work on the basics first. If he stays big, more power to him, he's doing fine.

 

[x_muscle]

not to be a dick, but you should not make a comment like that. The lifts he's doing now indicate he at least had a fair base. There are people out there that lift more naturally than you will ever be able to lift no matter how much juice you use - so obviously what is attainable naturally shouldn't be a guide for when everyone starts on the juice (if they so desire). If his diet and training aren't in order he will deflate when he gets off the gear, and that will be a good indication that he needed to work on the basics first. If he stays big, more power to him, he's doing fine.

i agree with you 330lb bench press is no joke.

 

[anabolized]

it´s a premade brand from South-America,called Finabolon,Laboratorio Fundacion,same brand I´ve gotten my Winny from,too,which is a bad MoFo.

yea, sorry to say u got jacked thats not real tren. i a few of my friends took it and got no results. there r 2 versions, the one u show and one with a red lable in the same brown vial.

 

[Poobah]

Thanks for the support guys.

I'm day 4 into my PCT. Strength hasn't dropped. I don't seem to be crashing at all really. I feel positive, and I get good wood no trouble at all. (Girlfriend is very pleased)

So far so good.

 

[exnihilo]

Watch out bro, you might still be cruising on the test left in your system. How much test did you run/week and how long have you been off?

 

[Poobah]

Watch out bro, you might still be cruising on the test left in your system. How much test did you run/week and how long have you been off?

I was running 500mg Test enan then Test prop and tren to close out the cycle...

Last shot of Test enan was on Friday Feb 18th...
Last shot of Test prop and tren and HCG was Friday March 4th...

I started clomid, 7ox diacetate, and another cycle of IGF Monday March 7th... (so today is actual day 4 of pct not yesterday).

I'm also taking cialis EOD.

Oh.. and last night, I had made my girl happy... countless times.. and myself 4 times.. (To much information...lol but on topic).

So far the only concern I have is the terrible night sweats these last 2 nights.

What you think? Possible I'm still cruising? I got wood already this morning... hehe

I hope this is real.. and I can continue to avoid the crash... I have strong will, and a calm mind, I think alot of times it can make all the difference.

 

[exnihilo]

I was running 500mg Test enan then Test prop and tren to close out the cycle...

Last shot of Test enan was on Friday Feb 18th...
Last shot of Test prop and tren and HCG was Friday March 4th...

I started clomid, 7ox diacetate, and another cycle of IGF Monday March 7th... (so today is actual day 4 of pct not yesterday).

I'm also taking cialis EOD.

Oh.. and last night, I had made my girl happy... countless times.. and myself 4 times.. (To much information...lol but on topic).

So far the only concern I have is the terrible night sweats these last 2 nights.

What you think? Possible I'm still cruising? I got wood already this morning... hehe

I hope this is real.. and I can continue to avoid the crash... I have strong will, and a calm mind, I think alot of times it can make all the difference.

It takes me about 3 weeks to crash off of enanthate, I've never done prop but most people start pct within a week or so. It's possible you're still on the tail end, just keep riding it out and see how you feel...

 

[Poobah]

It takes me about 3 weeks to crash off of enanthate, I've never done prop but most people start pct within a week or so. It's possible you're still on the tail end, just keep riding it out and see how you feel...

Thanks, not exactly what I was hoping to hear.. but probably what I need to hear.

So far so good though, day 5 today and already lots of wood this morning.

*crosses fingers*

 

[prolangtum]

Test/Tren/Drol was the best strength combo I have used. I still havent been able to touch the strength I had on that cycle since.

 

[riskarb]

Test/Tren/Drol was the best strength combo I have used. I still havent been able to touch the strength I had on that cycle since.

Amen

 

[Nate Dawg]

How was your cycle layout for those stacks, like for example test the entire time with anadrol the first half and tren the last half, or did you run the tren and anadrol together. I think that would be pretty awesome to run them together, but probably pretty harsh on the body.

 

[riskarb]

I assume the question was for prolangtum, but I ran anadrol for the first 4 weeks; tren for the last 6 weeks; test enanthate for weeks 1-12.

 

[Nate Dawg]

It was for both you and prolangtum, thanks riskarb. I want to try anadrol for the strength, but I really dont want the bloat, I hate losing the water, just that feeling of "shrinking" I guess you could say. Maybe run .5mg ed of a-dex would keep most of the bloat at bay?