Best quality phenibut
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Matthersby
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It’s all the same crap. Valium is better. 
Power-Lift
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The ones I have and like are from SNS and from VL...
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horizons
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That VL is heaps cheap. Is it better than SNS?
booneman77
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I dont think you will find better quality than SNS... it's what they pride themselves on. If you didn't get the desired effect, its more likely a dosage question than a quality.
JAS51
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ND's Tianeptine is great. Have you used FAA phenibut?
horizons
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booneman77
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out of curiosity, what do you use the tian for?
I've been using Vicaine PM and absolutely love it but tis damn expensive
horizons
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Not enough studies on Tian for me to dabble lol
Godstrength
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Its an approved drug all over the world... Aka stablon
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ELROCK
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Everything they carry is top quality. They actually do internal batch testing.
jarrellt67
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I ordered some of that myself (used your discount code). Really liking it so far at just 20 mg twice a day. Wish there was a way I could put it in capsules though...but it just melts both the gelatin and vegetarian capsules I've tried. For some reason, tianeptine sodium is very different for me when compared to tianeptine sulfate (calming with slight mood improvement versus stimulating and causing slight anger/irritability).
booneman77
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that's not what I was asking for ha... looking for info on the ingredient/how people use it/what they get from it... I can find it if I want it but wanted some feedback on it solo
jarrellt67
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I've tried SNS, Primaforce and ND. Quality seems the same for all of them. Currently have SNS since it was cheaper than the rest (got a few bottles real cheap from a site having a sale on them).
Godstrength
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Well the Vicaine p.m. basically is it with the nigella sativa and the agmatine which just potentiates it and/or helps w tolerance. It is basically a solo tieneptene sodium product with a couple bonus ingregients. The reason I shot you a link is because you said it was kind of expensive I think it's a little cheaper to buy it straight in the five gram bottle.
Give me a break Boone... I'm just trying to do my job
JAS51
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I have been using Tianeptine Sulfate to help with anxiety. What I have noticed for it so far is it improves my mood, stress relief and improvement in sleep(deeper sleep with less tossing and turning). I like 50mgs 3x/week..
I get the same effects from 2,000mgs of SNS Phenibut too. I used phenibut 2x/week. The only difference is I dose phenibut before bed and Tianeptine in the AM. I have not used both on the same day.
booneman77
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Well the Vicaine p.m. basically is it with the nigella sativa and the agmatine which just potentiates it and/or helps w tolerance. It is basically a solo tieneptene sodium product with a couple bonus ingregients. The reason I shot you a link is because you said it was kind of expensive I think it's a little cheaper to buy it straight in the five gram bottle.
Give me a break Boone... I'm just trying to do my job
haha it got me what I wanted though! Thanks
carguy123
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Yeah pretty common from what I have seen from other users. I usually just use it for sleeping purposes so cant really comment on the social anxiety type uses.
Jordzzz313
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I agree with Elrock - Nootropics depot is the best quality vendor around.
Whey
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So far ive tried SNS and Smart powder's Phenibut, and Bulknutrition's Phenibut back in the day. Does anyone notice a slight different experience between brands?
As for an example smoking different strains of weed, or trying different strains of Kratom. Ive notice Phenibut felt a little different. I have liftmodes on the way, wondering if it would provide a slightly different experience.
I think I like SNS Phenibut a little more. They were both equivalent in strength but felt different. To me it felt like SNS had a little bit more of a go vibe to it - go out and party, mingle, have fun and Smart Powders leaned more towards doing nothing lol. Calm and chill.
As for an example smoking different strains of weed, or trying different strains of Kratom. Ive notice Phenibut felt a little different. I have liftmodes on the way, wondering if it would provide a slightly different experience.
I think I like SNS Phenibut a little more. They were both equivalent in strength but felt different. To me it felt like SNS had a little bit more of a go vibe to it - go out and party, mingle, have fun and Smart Powders leaned more towards doing nothing lol. Calm and chill.
GQdaLEGEND
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SNS phenibut have been my fav
think i saw the powder on bogo at steak sauce
think i saw the powder on bogo at steak sauce
carguy123
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Agreed, I usually just stick with SNS myself. Also you are correct regarding that sale, I snagged 2 just the other day actually
thebigt
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great price!!!
Outofbody
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That only happens if you take too much, too frequently. I've used it off and on for years and have never once experienced any withdrawls.
Agreed. It's who I've been using for years.
WesleyInman
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My buddy uses a brand called BTP creations. They have some other solid options, though honestly the only thing I have tried is their 1,3dm pre-workout. Anyways he says they have a very good version of phenibut if anyone needs it btpcreations.com i think is the site.
I have some Phenibut left from Powder City myself, I haven't used it in forever though.
I have some Phenibut left from Powder City myself, I haven't used it in forever though.
WesleyInman
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What compounds and items specifically do you like there, and what would you compare them to?
meatneck71
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Nootropics depot is the best quality that I have experienced and that's on all of their products. They don't carry Tia anymore, however, if you do some research on the net, you will be able to find a source domestically. Basically, the trick with tia is that you take 30-50 mgs and you'll feel much better, as it acts as an antidepressant hitting your mu opioid receptors. If you take too much, you'll be on one of the hardest hit opiate highs in your life. The first time I took Vicaine, I took 2 pills and didn't feel anything for about 30 minutes and then the focus kicked in. I decided to take the 3rd pill and the tia kicked in 30 minutes later and I was literally floored for 8 hours. If you have an addictive personality, stay away from phenibut and tia. You'll be sorry if you get hooked.
tyga tyga
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I’ve used SNS phenibut in the past, I haven’t use it anymore because I started to abuse it. However, before I found out that you could use it as a recreational, I would take 500mg pre bed (1hr) and worked my way to 1g before bed. It would keep me asleep for the duration of the night and I would wake up like a new man. Completely restored my energy. One of the best sleep aides I’ve ever used.
Standup
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Nootropic Depot's dose is way too low and overpriced I also asked for a 3rd party lab test and they refused to send me one. So I have serious doubts to their quality. Don't believe in hype just science and facts.
meatneck71
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I hear ya but all their products that I’ve tried has worked great and seemed very strong or dosed correctly.
Standup
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Phenibut 250 mg is way too low and most of what they carry is way overpriced. I much prefer Health Naturals they actually send you 3rd party labs and have great customer service. Any company who says they use 3rd party labs and does not actually give it to you by request in my opinion is defrauding people. Because why would you not prove your claims? No good reason I can think of.
ELROCK
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What do you mean they “refused” to send it to you?
They have provided COAs to me in the past.
jarrellt67
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Definitely disagree with this. 250-500 mg of phenibut is more than enough for most if you're just using it to relax or help with sleep (and it's in line with the recommended dose based on the russian studies). Also, I've requested third party lab results for many of ND products and they've always sent it within 24 hours.
Standup
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I've asked them for 3rd party lab tests and they refused to send me any. As in they said no.
If you have any 3rd party lab tests please post it here. From what I could tell they only do in house tests.
Standup
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SNS, Smart Powders, Nootropics City, Happy Hippo etc both make 500 mg. I notice nothing from 250-500 mg and need at least 1,000 mg to notice anything most studies use 1,500 mg daily.
Since you have most of ND's 3rd party labs can you post 1? I've never seen it posted anywhere.
jarrellt67
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Yes, up to 1,500 mg daily but individual doses of no more than 750 mg (starting at 250 mg).
I didn't request most...just many. Sorry, I don't save them. I just requested it for whatever supplement I was using at the time (which changes often). I'm currently just using their Black Seed Oil but haven't requested the 3rd party lab tests for it (since it's just a temporary supplement to help me get off kratom).
Standup
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You didn't save the emails?
jarrellt67
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Nope. I never save personal emails. It was just to satisfy my own curiosity at the time when I first started buying from them. After a while I was satisfied with both the lab results, and results from their products, that I stopped requesting them.
ELROCK
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Nootropics Depot did in fact use to supply 3rd party testing upon request (3-4 years ago IIRC). Since, they have expanded their internal testing lab they no longer need to send out all of their products for testing. Their analysis now provides more information then it previously did. The have COAs from their suppliers then they run their own on every batch and every container of their products. I actually feel more comfortable with this process.
Is there a reason you don’t trust their current COAs?
Standup
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So they no longer do any 3rd party lab tests or they never did? Like I said I just asked for one and never got it asked again and still nothing so as far as I or anyone in my place would be concerned they don't have or do them. I plan to have some of mine tested when I get a chance there's some org offering free lab tests for purity so when they open I'll just send it to them. I tried their phenylpiracetam at 100 and up to 300 mg saw nothing. Tried Pure Nootropics and saw actual effects. They had their 3rd party labs right on their site so no question in my mind it was not legit.
I don't trust companies who say they do and have something and when asked for it they refuse to provide it. I would prefer it so I can compare purity and go with the highest quality.
ELROCK
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Both (they use to supply it on request for all products and now I believe they still do on certain ones). They do purity testing on all of their products so they still supply you with that information for all of their products.
So, when you asked they “refused” you or they just haven’t got back to you on it? I ask because when dealing with them in the past their customer service is good and responsive to purity of their products.
Standup
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I hear people say that but to date no one have provided me with 1 COA. I ordered a fair amount too.
They didn't reply I asked again and nothing. I've never had any order issues like not receiving it but this seen this non-responsive from other companies. It's quite frustrating I wish more companies would have them posted online especially before you order something.
Not unlike hemp extracts many companies have full labs on their site so I can see and compare CBD to other components and check heavy metal, and pesticides levels so I can always pick the highest or most potent one and be assurance of safety.