Best pre workout

I just ordered something like vasky but no flavors and individual ingredients from thinkitdrinkit . I added 4 grams of criturlline and 5-10 grams Dribose from them as well to my vasky mix. Should be coming in the mail soon. Stack that with a bottle of 5 grams hbcd, 2 servings of creator, carnipure, and 5-1o grams of sustainine sip on it threw out the day and I'm set.
 
If anyone is interested in the new HyperMax XT, PM me if you would be interested in some samples. e just ask for honest reviews in return.
 
Nutrabio Pre

One of the few truly ergogenic pre training mixes out there and fully disclosed labels.
 
Rodja said:
Nutrabio Pre

One of the few truly ergogenic pre training mixes out there and fully disclosed labels.
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They are okay. The attitude of the owner was not like I had hoped. I met the guy at the trade show twice and would talk crap about other brands like he did on his video .
 
Still a recommendation of Mesomorph > anything else from me. Flavors are always good, can be mixed with nitrates for even more pump, energy is clean and fantastic.
 
Old thread is old. But just throwing this out there.. Gaspari SuperPump 250 is back with DMAA and is going to be fantastic.
 
danielmoo said:
Old thread is old. But just throwing this out there.. Gaspari SuperPump 250 is back with DMAA and is going to be fantastic.
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Looks dumb. A blend on top of that and two forms of silicate for a pump that I can't find studies on. Only silicate ingredient I have seen that works is arginine and Hydromax. The entire product is a step back and Looks silly to me. Just get individual ingredients and make your own preworkout .the most complete site I like out of all the major brands so far is thinkitdrinkit.
 
Best pre's I've tried in the last few months would be Dr Jekyll if you're looking for good focus and energy, Purus labs Condense for good pumps and Beast pre workout was pretty good as well
 
riseabove5 said:
I just finished a tub of 1mr vortex and over all I couldn't complain. Decent energy and pumps without feeling cracked out. I like trying different pre workouts. Thoughts on the best stim pwo?
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Can you clarify Best Stim PWO? If you are looking for high caff then look at Chaos and Pain Cannibal Ferox or Muscle-Elements PreCre XS. If you want something with DMAA then look at Mesomorph.
 
HellAtlantic said:
I use mesomorph and while it's not as strong as its disclaimers make it sound I love it. I plan on making it my go-to pre, it just makes me eager to attack. Rest times between sets are always under 1 minute cuz I always have so much energy. 2 scoops is probably too much for me, but 1.5 scoops seems to be the sweet spot for me.
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I only ever use mesomorph a max of twice per week on heavy leg days, i feel it can give a sense of false strength though where you can just fail due to weights feeling lighter than normal, i also will not try more than one rounded scoop which is around 16 grams, i once went up to 18-20 grams and had a ****ty workout from the excess.
 
Tank88 said:
Best pre's I've tried in the last few months would be Dr Jekyll if you're looking for good focus and energy, Purus labs Condense for good pumps and Beast pre workout was pretty good as well
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DR Jekyll never did much for me even at 2 scoops, i much prefer PES High Volume or Hemav02 Max by iForce, also for a pump i find 4-6 caps of Hydro3 by OL 45-60 mins pre workout just as effective. also do you find Jekyll to clump due to glycerol and have a funky smell.
 
I decided to do the math, we have a 325g tub of Citrulline Malate which I can find for ~$18. At 6g per day, you're looking at 50 servings per tub, which is roughly 2 months of lifting.

That equates to 37 cents per workout.

I can buy 120 of our caffeine tabs for $3.99. At 400mg per session, this will last 60 workouts. That is 0.6 cents per workout. Only slightly above half a cent.

Lastly I can buy a 100g of Agmatine for ~$22. At 1g per workout day, that is 100 days worth. To match up a little more closely with the above, I will say $11 for a 50 day supply. For 50 days, this is 22 cents per workout.

That brings 2 months worth of decent dosages to a grand total of 0.65 cents per workout. Or $17.50 per month.

Not bad.
 
djbombsquad said:
Looks dumb. A blend on top of that and two forms of silicate for a pump that I can't find studies on. Only silicate ingredient I have seen that works is arginine and Hydromax. The entire product is a step back and Looks silly to me. Just get individual ingredients and make your own preworkout .the most complete site I like out of all the major brands so far is thinkitdrinkit.
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I respectfully and completely disagree. In terms of price, it will always be more beneficial to create your own PWO. I do agree with that.

Cognition-boosting nootropics, insulin-mimicking ingredients, some of the best pump agents available (even as silicates) plus the addition of DMAA will be a powerhouse of a product. How and why would you consider this a step back? Even without the inclusion of DMAA it would be a competitive preworkout.
 
djbombsquad said:
They are okay. The attitude of the owner was not like I had hoped. I met the guy at the trade show twice and would talk crap about other brands like he did on his video .
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A supplement owner talking crap about other brands!? That NEVER happens in this industry. I've never seen a full label disclosure like they have along with a complete product.

It seems like most of this thread equates high energy to an efficacious pre workout and that's just not the case. Give me an ergogenic, appropriately dosed supplement long before I ask for a stim dump. Caffeine and ephedrine are dirt cheap, but I would not call them a pre workout by any means.
 
Has anyone tried prime nutrition pwo/stim? I picked up a tub cause it was super cheap. It's basically just stim so I would have to buy a pump product to go with it. I just never see it talked about.
 
rascal14 said:
Has anyone tried prime nutrition pwo/stim? I picked up a tub cause it was super cheap. It's basically just stim so I would have to buy a pump product to go with it. I just never see it talked about.
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Used several tubs of it long while back it was discontinued good while ago now, its life was brief due to it utilizing AMP Cit. BSL at that time had Angel Dust or tech the 2nd version of Angel Dust which was also utilizing at the time AMP Cit and that was at the same time discontinued and when Dust V2 came out.

2 scoops of PWO/Stim fairly good and strong what I was using of it, and even when it was out it was fairly inexpensive. I am a fan of AMP Cit tho very nice so I think you will prob enjoy it I know I did.
 
paul56778 said:
DR Jekyll never did much for me even at 2 scoops, i much prefer PES High Volume or Hemav02 Max by iForce, also for a pump i find 4-6 caps of Hydro3 by OL 45-60 mins pre workout just as effective. also do you find Jekyll to clump due to glycerol and have a funky smell.
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No, I didn't have any clump problems with Dr Jekyll, the smell is not great though I agree. There are definitely better products out there, but it's a great pre workout for those days when you're tired and not really feeling like going the gym, this will get you in the gym and in the mood
 
Rob1882 said:
Used several tubs of it long while back it was discontinued good while ago now, its life was brief due to it utilizing AMP Cit. BSL at that time had Angel Dust or tech the 2nd version of Angel Dust which was also utilizing at the time AMP Cit and that was at the same time discontinued and when Dust V2 came out.

2 scoops of PWO/Stim fairly good and strong what I was using of it, and even when it was out it was fairly inexpensive. I am a fan of AMP Cit tho very nice so I think you will prob enjoy it I know I did.
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Definitely agree with this, though I only ever went as high as 1.5 scoops.

All the same, good energy and no crash.
 
rascal14 said:
Has anyone tried prime nutrition pwo/stim? I picked up a tub cause it was super cheap. It's basically just stim so I would have to buy a pump product to go with it. I just never see it talked about.
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Stims are ehhh. I like carderine stacked with a pump and mind product .
 
djbombsquad said:
Looks dumb. A blend on top of that and two forms of silicate for a pump that I can't find studies on. Only silicate ingredient I have seen that works is arginine and Hydromax. The entire product is a step back and Looks silly to me. Just get individual ingredients and make your own preworkout .the most complete site I like out of all the major brands so far is thinkitdrinkit.
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Finally someone that agrees with me! I hope to be wrong on this, but it looks medicore at best for anything other then its dmaa and caffiene content.
 
Mrbolt84 said:
I'm really really liking the new Man Sports game day ...crazy energy and focus. Plus it tastes awesome
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Did you try the one they had out a couple years ago? Not the one with DMAA but the one afterwards?

If so how does this new one compare? I had the one after DMAA and it tasted awesome but even at 2 scoops didn't do much for me otherwise.
 
djbombsquad said:
Stims are ehhh. I like carderine stacked with a pump and mind product .
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What dose of GW / Cardarine, I am currently on 14mg of OL UK version and may go up to 21mg after month 1 for months 2 and 3 if there is more of a benefit in relation to fat loss whilst I cut.
 
I just do 6 caps of prime evil labs and to me that's more than a stim.
 
HyperMax by Performax is pretty good. Pump was okay, but I got a great mental focus that lasted through the whole workout!!
 
What's the difference between the two, and I'll take a look, and get back to you.
 
Now I sure hope that was the old version you sent me then because I love citrulline and usually respond to it extremely well.
 
FYI the new Conqu3r Unleashed has just been released and is 50% off at the OL site. As well as 10 free sample packs of Hydro with every order. The new Conqu3r contains an enhanced stim package! This deal includes the stim free version as well even though no changes were made to the formula.

Also, some great opportunities to score some freebies here:

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Based on a trusted recommendation I just started trying Warpath by American Metabolix. Holy sh*t I absolutely love it. I have used multiple tubs of Meso but havn't tried Dust Extreme. This is one of the best pres I have ever used though in terms of the energy / focus / drive combination. I would personally take it over Meso. I know, destroy me, but I dont care. Apparently its been around for a while too. Not affiliated in any way, just trying to aware the board.
 
I tried some samples of DVT8 White Cut and thought it was pretty good. I settled on one sample pack (1 scoop) and liked the effects (slight euphoria, decent pump, and focus/energy). I have been eyeing up Mesomorph but I wanted to try a sample of it before I committed to a bottle.
 
whats the best ones out right now

finished up last of Katana V3 and need to find a replacement because komodo had to **** up a perfectly good preworkout
 
Pre-Jym is the best I've tried so far. Great for caffeine and has a bunch of ingredients for endurance. Really good, especially for Crossfit/sports
 
Since this thread was bumped, it may be a good time to remind everyone that Nutriverse has Performax Labs products for 20% off currently. Great time to grab HyperMax XT if you haven't got to try the newest version.


Also, for the non stim fans like myself, Vasomax is coming soon.

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cubsfan815 said:
Since this thread was bumped, it may be a good time to remind everyone that Nutriverse has Performax Labs products for 20% off currently. Great time to grab HyperMax XT if you haven't got to try the newest version.


Also, for the non stim fans like myself, Vasomax is coming soon.

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Will you have any sample packs made of vasomax coming out? I like going non stim on cycle.
 
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