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best pre-workout supp?

Agreed. Nothing beats EC for pick me up energy. I have been doing E/C + Hemavol. Makes an awesome pre-workout stack, at least for me.

Mike
 
Maximize v2 is fantastic. Highly recommend for the energy. One scop does me good. I have never needed to increase more than 1 scopp.
 
Moeller said:
To corsaking: I checked out that link you posted, and I can't help but point out the irony that on a pre-workout thread you're worried about the nonepherine, and other stress hormone response from caffeine!
Yes, yes, I know about the tolerance issue. It just takes a few weeks without the stuff and it works like magic again.

For flavoring, just about any strong crystal light/ sugar free coolaid variation masks the C.A. well enough.
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im not worried about it at all, its your body , you can do what the hell you like with it. We are all here to help and advise.The information provided was given on the assumption that it was something you might not have been aware of and therefore enabling you to make a better informed choice as to whether to continue with that amount of caffeine on a regular basis.

If you choose to disregard any information on the side effects of regular consumption of high amouints of caffeine, then thats fine , i have no problem with that , as i said before its your body .
 
lmbarca19 said:
Just started using Athletic Edge Presurge Unleashed.....best preworkout I've used so far. I've used Controlled Labs White Flood, which is solid; Omega Sports Ultima, also solid and great when cycling off stims; Superpump 250, which was disappointing.

I regret not picking up a tub of Maximize V2 when it was on sale.
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gamer2be08 said:
Maximize V2 is great. Jack3d and white flood are great.
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thebigt said:
ragnarok ultra. muscle marinade. shotgun. shock therapy. white flood.
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poison said:
Ragnorok, clout, white flood.
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thanks for all the white flood love. you can get a free sample of the new fruit punch flavor (best tasting preworkout on the market) via the thread in my signature: Invalid Link Removed
 
corsaking said:
im not worried about it at all, its your body , you can do what the hell you like with it. We are all here to help and advise.The information provided was given on the assumption that it was something you might not have been aware of and therefore enabling you to make a better informed choice as to whether to continue with that amount of caffeine on a regular basis.

If you choose to disregard any information on the side effects of regular consumption of high amouints of caffeine, then thats fine , i have no problem with that , as i said before its your body .
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Thanks for the advice, and the info first off! I do want to point out that there is no conclusive negative evidence against long term caffeine use besides minor CNS stress based on findings in the 2010 JISSN (journal of the international society of sports nutrition), and that I am not choosing to disregard the information you presented. I am just weighing it against contrary findings and making an informed choice.
 
maybe you can make your own pre
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risktaker said:
obiously is jack3d, the rest of the preworkouts are nothing more than fillers and maltodextrin(makes you fat), especially the superpump(aka, superdump 250).
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Muscle Marinade is 20.5 grams a serving of actives with no fillers.

Jacked is good as well. My two favorites.
 
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