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Best PH on the market 2017

JackDiesel

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The last PH I took was Super DMZ 3.0 Stack from IML, which was a few years ago. I was wondering, if there is anything currently on the market as strong as the DMZ stack.
 
On the market? You can get nigh on anything you want on te black market. Or did you mean US supp-store market? Or imported from UK market? Lotsa markets brah.
 
Well, to many (and maybe yourself, depending on your past PH experience) your initial question is kinda like asking, "what is the best kick in the sacks?"

All options lead to regret.
 
Honestly for the trouble you'll go through to get any worthwhile ph (because none on the us legal market are really up to par anymore) you would get much better results and can just as easily get the real deal. Just my personal opinion but Ive never really found ph/ds to be THAT worthwhile. The good ones were all banned years ago. Phera, sdrol, hdrol wasn't bad for what it was. But they are gone and now we have dhea.
 
DMZ
M-Sten
Trestolone

are all currently available in the US, and have not been specifically banned.
 
vujade said:
DMZ
M-Sten
Trestolone

are all currently available in the US, and have not been specifically banned.
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This...also, might add hexadrone and Max LMG as well but never tried. Running hexadrone next month, so hopefully it has some benefits.
 
vujade said:
DMZ
M-Sten
Trestolone

are all currently available in the US, and have not been specifically banned.
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I don't think this is true. The last ban was a "blanket" ban. I know for sure m sten is banned. I am pretty sure DMZ is too. Not sure about trest.

Some companies might still make it, but those 2 are definitely banned.
 
warbird01 said:
I don't think this is true. The last ban was a "blanket" ban. I know for sure m sten is banned. I am pretty sure DMZ is too. Not sure about trest.

Some companies might still make it, but those 2 are definitely banned.
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They made it passed the ban and not specifically banned at least not yet. Alpha 1 as well


"Which Compounds are listed in the HR 4771 Prohormone Ban Bill?

The most popular prohormones that are now banned are:

*

Halodrol

Epistane

Trenavar

Furazadrol

Max-LMG

P-Mag

Formestane"
 
I'd say 1andro... OL UK, Sparta, Alpha Gainz (TD), and HiTech are 20-25% off at Nutriverse. Pit Pharma and Alpha Lab have other offerings as well ;)

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you can still find sources that sell SD, I think the strength gainz from SD are better than dbol, but I can handle dbol for 6-8 weeks, SD by week 4 my back is on fire from the back pumps
 
DMZ AND M STEN ARE available at U.S. retailers. Trestolone is also active compound designer steroid available in U.S. retail market. All three very potent and give good gainz.
 
DUbz86 said:
They made it passed the ban and not specifically banned at least not yet. Alpha 1 as well


"Which Compounds are listed in the HR 4771 Prohormone Ban Bill?

The most popular prohormones that are now banned are:

*

Halodrol

Epistane

Trenavar

Furazadrol

Max-LMG

P-Mag

Formestane"
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M sten is definitely banned. Too lazy to find my old posts about the subject (because this comes up regularly). Just because some shady company is making it doesn't mean it's not banned. But for our purposes, all that matters is someone is making it.
 
The compound itself was never listed but fits the criteria not occurring in nature not a dietary supplement, etc
 
warbird01 said:
M sten is definitely banned. Too lazy to find my old posts about the subject (because this comes up regularly). Just because some shady company is making it doesn't mean it's not banned. But for our purposes, all that matters is someone is making it.
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It is not listed as banned right now will be soon. They banned a bunch but msten DMZ and alpha 1 made it through not for long
 
dvw said:
If you want go to English retailer you can real **** like pheraplex and M1T
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Nanophera so not sure how it is to old school phera. But yes you can and decent price. Honestly think it would be better to make them legal and more people would be more knowledgeable​ to run things right. To many bad cycle set ups or not understanding a methly compound.

Just a few stupid people ruin everything for us.
 
DUbz86 said:
It is not listed as banned right now will be soon. They banned a bunch but msten DMZ and alpha 1 made it through not for long
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No, the last ban was a blanket ban.
 
If you can consider PH's from the UK (and never had issues with customs etc to the USA), then you can go with pretty much anything you like. 4-AD is a good bet but alternatively, if you are wanting rapid gains in size and strength it is hard to look past Liquitren or Nanodrol.
 
Interested in liquitren but can't find much about it... and wondering how much actual tren is on the 75mg per ml....
 
M1A @ 45-60mg/day.

The strength and glycogen retention on this drug at higher doses is ridiculous to say the least. I can only speak for one brand, which happens to also be tablet form, pharma grade stuff. Still, assuming other brands are similar in potency, M1A is NO JOKE. I like it far more than I did SD and the strength... The STRENGTH on this drug!! For my isolated lifts, I always saw massive increases in strength, something like 20-30% after two weeks on. For compound lifts, I noticed on leg press and vertical presses on the Smith machine, I'd see anywhere from 2-4 plate increases in a matter of 2-3 weeks with an increase in total reps as well. This is one of those powerlifting drugs, IMO. I would not doubt that I could increase my squat by 50lbs in 3 weeks on this drug. As a matter of fact, I was front sissy squatting 275lbs for reps last cycle I ran (most people struggle to do BW on this type of squat).

Size obviously comes with food so I don't particularly judge a compound's strength by that measure because people eat different calories and macros and it's hard to place the effectiveness of a compound based on variables like that (which are vastly different from user to user).
 
SwoleMax said:
Do I really have to provide links for warning letters that companies have gotten from FDA for selling Msten , DMZ and M 1 Alpha ??? Really guys ................ go read the law a few more times and pay attention to the wording . A substance does NOT need to be listed to be banned . The law points that out very clearly .
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Hey if its still being sold here who gives a sh1t about the warning letters a company has gotten? Plus this thread is like a year old
 
SwoleMax said:
Do I really have to provide links for warning letters that companies have gotten from FDA for selling Msten , DMZ and M 1 Alpha ??? Really guys ................ go read the law a few more times and pay attention to the wording . A substance does NOT need to be listed to be banned . The law points that out very clearly .
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Yeah buddy....over a year and a half can change things totally.
LOL
 
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