Dbol is EQ with a methyl bond.Isnt halo just a 4-chloro group added to dbol? Honestly I'm not sure I haven't been dealing with gear and chemistry in FAR to long
Dbol is EQ with a methyl bond.Isnt halo just a 4-chloro group added to dbol? Honestly I'm not sure I haven't been dealing with gear and chemistry in FAR to long
Yep I was thinking of tbol, not hdrol which is obviously is the ph to tbolDbol is EQ with a methyl bond.
No Halodrol is an active steroid not a ph to Tbol. It’s it’s own steroid just closely related.Yep I was thinking of tbol, not hdrol which is obviously is the ph to tbol
Ya it was forum dogma for so long, I thought the same thing. It’s active but I swear there’s some sort of odd conversion somewhere else in the body that makes 15% of Tbol. But it’s a similar but different drug. I think the whole thing back in the day was bullshit with Halodrol converting to tbol. But There’s just a weird stipulation somewhere out there about it.I thought I remember reading that Hdrol does convert to tbol at a certain percentage, but is also active in its own right
Yeah, most of it's effects come from Halodrol itself, but it is said to convert at around 15% (aprox).Ya it was forum dogma for so long, I thought the same thing. It’s active but I swear there’s some sort of odd conversion somewhere else in the body that makes 15% of Tbol. But it’s a similar but different drug. I think the whole thing back in the day was bullshit with Halodrol converting to tbol. But There’s just a weird stipulation somewhere out there about it.
It is predominantly a steroid, not PH. It is said to covert at approximately 15%. Most of it's effects come without conversion.Haladrol is another one that did almost nothing for me. And it was a name brand and I definitely took enough of it. I dont see why anyone would do Haladrol if they have access to what it converts to.
Strange. It always worked extremely well for me and I've also run Tbol numerous times. They are almost identical in effects in my experience.Haladrol is another one that did almost nothing for me. And it was a name brand and I definitely took enough of it. I dont see why anyone would do Haladrol if they have access to what it converts to.
Yes it is but it also converts to tbolNo Halodrol is an active steroid not a ph to Tbol. It’s it’s own steroid just closely related.
So they say! Supposedly it’s 12-15% but not really sure how much of a difference that makes. Though it was good marketing for the supplement companies.Yes it is but it also converts to tbol
Wow. I agree, that could be it.Just to make it clear though , I had been gaining a whole lot the year I had taken haladrol and was going from using 2-3 substances at a time and not taking breaks for 3-4 months at a time , then only taking 2 week breaks , and then onto 2-3 DIFFERENT substances . Could be THE reason or a big part of the reason why superdrol and halodrol didn't seem to do much to me . Even when I graduated to dbol , I didn't get what I heard others brag about . Definitely got something from dbol though . My receptors are good and cleaned up and fresh now after a good break . I probably gained more than anyone else at my gym last year .
I’ve never taken dbol, m1t but as for comparison I think SD & m1t were the worst .. where as you can gain like 10lbs in 5 days that’s just not healthyWow. I agree, that could be it.
BTW, for me (and many others) SD blows Dbol away.
It is the single strongest anabolic of any kind I've used so far.
Yeah, wish I could've stocked up.I’ve never taken dbol, m1t but as for comparison I think SD & m1t were the worst .. where as you can gain like 10lbs in 5 days that’s just not healthy
And then there was a thing where pple started pulsing SD for 6-8 EOD or something
I lasted prolly like 3 days on SD, just felt horrible and depressed and I was like gains aren’t worth it
But I do miss those days and wish I had stocked and saved em .. even though would never run it lol
Read the title man. It says "what is your favorite prohormone/designer steroid"First off most of these that have been mentioned are “Designer Steroids” not pro hormones. Pro hormones need stomach enzyme’s to alter them into there parent hormones. The word “pro hormone” turned into a marketing scheme started by the supplement companies to put them into the “grey” after the 2004 ban. Everything designed after that was called pro hormones because marketing “steroids” after the ban was sketchy and many of the companies were warned and busted. There’s your history lesson young bucks!
Two of my favorites were:
Driven nutrition- Spawn - epi/tren
Antaeus Labs - Mechabol
Iron legion - Dienazone
Your body has to work harder to covert prohormones to the target hormone. So it's more of a strain on your body!First off most of these that have been mentioned are “Designer Steroids” not pro hormones. Pro hormones need stomach enzyme’s to alter them into there parent hormones. The word “pro hormone” turned into a marketing scheme started by the supplement companies to put them into the “grey” after the 2004 ban. Everything designed after that was called pro hormones because marketing “steroids” after the ban was sketchy and many of the companies were warned and busted. There’s your history lesson young bucks!
Two of my favorites were:
Driven nutrition- Spawn - epi/tren
Antaeus Labs - Mechabol
Iron legion - Dienazone
I don't think it's a strain on your body to convert PHs. ...Your body has to work harder to covert prohormones to the target hormone. So it's more of a strain on your body!
Designer steroids are already steroids (no conversion)
I just remember reading its harder on the endocrine system. Something about your body having to go through a 2 step process instead of an already active steroid. Your endocrine system has to convert the prohormones into whatever steroid it is a precursor to.I don't think it's a strain on your body to convert PHs. ...
But I agree with the rest.
Let me know if you find it. I'd be interested in reading it.I just remember reading its harder on the endocrine system. Something about your body having to go through a 2 step process instead of an already active steroid. Your endocrine system has to convert the prohormones into whatever steroid it is a precursor to.
There is literature somewhere but its been years since I was researching PHs. Can't believe I even remember this lol
I’m not saying I know better, but the body goes through a lot of conversions already with stuff like pregnenolone and DHEA and doesn’t get sick or stressed out or anything - it’s pretty resilient and efficient at that kind of process, at least they don’t seem to have any perceivable consequence.I just remember reading its harder on the endocrine system. Something about your body having to go through a 2 step process instead of an already active steroid. Your endocrine system has to convert the prohormones into whatever steroid it is a precursor to.
There is literature somewhere but its been years since I was researching PHs. Can't believe I even remember this lol
How did your Mechabol cycle go? Thanks!The best ever made was the original 1-AD.
Today it's P-Mag or Mechabol low to no sides, good keepable gains and fast recovery post cycle.
How was your Mechabol cycle mate ?The best ever made was the original 1-AD.
Today it's P-Mag or Mechabol low to no sides, good keepable gains and fast recovery post cycle.
How did this cycle turn out? Recently picked up some Halo and not sure I’ve ever ran it. Would you do it again?I havent cycled in a while , but started hdrol 2 weeks ago and my god it is amazing... not so much in terms of strength, but the all day pump and 5kg weight gain on a 200 calorie surplus is so good, getting a lot of comments already
Yeah very well... would definitely run again, 75-100mg for 6 weeks... I would use a base though, but not always needed. Dermacrine treated me welHow did this cycle turn out? Recently picked up some Halo and not sure I’ve ever ran it. Would you do it again?
Care to share any more details or if you’ve run it since. How were sides? How were the gains? Was it a cut or ? Cheers BroYeah very well... would definitely run again, 75-100mg for 6 weeks... I would use a base though, but not always needed. Dermacrine treated me wel
I recomped with it, cannot remember all the details as it was awhile ago, but I did lose some bodyfat and put on a couple of KGs, had a big noticable effect on my body. No sides that I can remember, pct was easy.Care to share any more details or if you’ve run it since. How were sides? How were the gains? Was it a cut or ? Cheers Bro
It got banned in the US around 2010 along with other designer compounds, just as illegal as EQ now. So you can hypothetically illegally source a bottle of UGL-made EQ for ~$50, do one little slinpin per week, and make better gains for 1/4 of the price of a Bold200 cycle.I was always curious what happened to iforce bold 200? I ran this with epistane. Best overall feeling I ever had and strong. Only problem was it was super expensive at high doses. A bottle would last like 12 days or something at 4 pills a day. Supposedly it converted to eq.