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From what I have:
Superdrol
X-tren
D-zine
H-drol
MMv3
Epistane
P-plex
4-AD (AMS)
1-Andro (AMS)
5aOHP

This is what I have already

What would be good for strength gains? A combo or solo cycle
 
RawStrength said:
From what I have:
Superdrol
X-tren
D-zine
H-drol
MMv3
Epistane
P-plex
4-AD (AMS)
1-Andro (AMS)
5aOHP

This is what I have already

What would be good for strength gains? A combo or solo cycle
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Out of all those I would pick Superdrol for strength hands down.

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RawStrength said:
Perhaps MMv3 (dht) and 1-andro (dhea) to help with lethargy and keep hormones all balanced?
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What about the x-tren. Is that methylated?
 
RawStrength said:
No xtren is not methylated

Why you ask?
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SD for three weeks stacked with x tren that you could keeping going for a 6 week duration. That would be sick.
 
Throw all this sh*t away and get some synthol oil. :D

MAKES YOU STRONG AS HELL.

Lol, anyways.
Superdrol has my vote for strength.
Xtren did a pretty good job, but strength wasn't as pronounced as it was with the SD.
Now a starting with SD and finishing with Xtren would be awesome.
 
RawStrength said:
Looks like sd/xtren is the winner

Should I stack them or bridge the SD into Xtren?

Any suggestions on amounts of each?
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A bridge would b sweet. What's the dose per cap of Xtren?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
True I've never tried it, I could get my hands on it but I prefer SD from what I hear about M1T.
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I have a source that supposedly sells 25mg m1t caps but its canadian domestic :(
maybe ill experiment with some halo hehe
 
handcannon7 said:
I have a source that supposedly sells 25mg m1t caps but its canadian domestic :(
maybe ill experiment with some halo hehe
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Haha why not u can always get a new liver.
 
So

Option 1:
Superdrol 20mg
Tren 60mg
For 5 weeks

Option 2:
Superdrol for 3 weeks 10/20/20
Tren for 6 weeks 40/80/80/120/120/120

Option 3:
Superdrol 30mg
Tren 90 mg
For 4 weeks

Or any other suggestions?
 
My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
 
Jbry hit it on the head, that would be an incredibly solid 8 week cycle. Just pick if you want to get really big or big and hard :D

ManBeast
 
I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth.. The more hardness/ripped look does sound appealing to me though. That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar? Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?

Not questioning you jbry just tryna learn :)
 
RawStrength said:
I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth..
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i second dzine.. I saw better strength gains, was able to be on longer and experienced less sides (when comparing to SD)

RawStrength said:
That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar?
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Structurally they are, kind of. Superdrol pretty much is methyl-drostanolone. Dymethazine (d-zine) is two molecules of methyl-drostanolone connected by an azine bond. This is why many people get the impression that sd and dzine will be similar or that dzine is twice as strong as sd since dzine is essentially 2 superdrols attached BUT these compounds are completely different in how they act in the body. When the azime bond breaks the 2 molecules left over dont act like 2 superdrols since the nitrogen bind (azine bond) causes them to be more androgenic and less anabolic than superdrol.

I would have to double check but this is how I remember it

RawStrength said:
Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?
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Maybe
 
ManBeast said:
Jbry hit it on the head, that would be an incredibly solid 8 week cycle. Just pick if you want to get really big or big and hard :D

ManBeast
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You can harden up in PCT with the right supps. Throw a sarm in there. I like the #2 idea you had.
 
jbryand101b said:
My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
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I 2nd dzine/xtren, you'll look hard as f*ck.
 
God how about tren and s-drol or tren and epistane.You will look like a different person at the end of the cycle.

The tren and epistane may be better cos you could run both for 6 weeks.Or you could bridge the superdrol and epistane.Its up to you but methyl's are the way to go imo.
 
dzine is more androgenic than superdrol, but superdrol is more anabolic than dzine. On paper and from reviews I lean towards dzine...

ManBeast
 
jbryand101b said:
My vote is for either dzine/xtren, or sd/pp, either one of those will bring huge strength gains & size. dzine/xtren will provide a lot more hardness/ripped look though.

also, after 3-4 weeks on which ever you choose, I recomend you run 5aohp & mmv3 together for another 4 weeks.
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Honestly I didnt see as much strength from dzine as I would of liked for some reason, but I agree it made me look really hard and shredded since I was already low BF, need to dose it higher next time I use it if I do.
 
I'll buy it all from you!
 
JudoJosh said:
i second dzine.. I saw better strength gains, was able to be on longer and experienced less sides (when comparing to SD)



Structurally they are, kind of. Superdrol pretty much is methyl-drostanolone. Dymethazine (d-zine) is two molecules of methyl-drostanolone connected by an azine bond. This is why many people get the impression that sd and dzine will be similar or that dzine is twice as strong as sd since dzine is essentially 2 superdrols attached BUT these compounds are completely different in how they act in the body. When the azime bond breaks the 2 molecules left over dont act like 2 superdrols since the nitrogen bind (azine bond) causes them to be more androgenic and less anabolic than superdrol.

I would have to double check but this is how I remember it



Maybe
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for the most part you are correct. and next time, you can just say, superdrol is methyl drostanolone (methasteron, or di-methyl dht if you will) instead of "pretty much is" for some, that may imply it is almost like methyl drostanolone.
 
RawStrength said:
I really dont care to get big or gain too much weight. My main goal is to just gain stregth.. The more hardness/ripped look does sound appealing to me though. That said isnt dzine and superdrol pretty damn similar? Wouldnt superdrol and xtren give those same results (hard and lean look) or just about the same?

Not questioning you jbry just tryna learn :)
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well, with that, I would say to go with dzine/dienedione.

I would of suggested epi/dienedione, but you would have to dose the epi in the 40-50mg range, and im not sure if you have enough, and then, I still feel that dzine is a better option.

sd and dzine are completely different steroids with very different results. I think you'll be very happy with dzine/pro dienolone ran into 5aohp/mmv3 for a 8 week strength cycle.
 
jbryand101b said:
well, with that, I would say to go with dzine/dienedione.

I would of suggested epi/dienedione, but you would have to dose the epi in the 40-50mg range, and im not sure if you have enough, and then, I still feel that dzine is a better option.

sd and dzine are completely different steroids with very different results. I think you'll be very happy with dzine/pro dienolone ran into 5aohp/mmv3 for a 8 week strength cycle.
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How would you dose them since I have everything you mentioned ? (dzine, xtren, 5aohp, mmv3) ?
 
D-zine would be my choice, better strength,weight,and size than i got from superdrol, hdrol, or epi. Unfortunately I had twice the sides of anything else I have run. Lethargy was BRUTAL! Tons of hairless as well, but the gains were pretty great at 30-30-30-45
 
currently day 6 sdrol, really no sides other than BP stuff which isnt a big deal for me.
Not gonna look at the scale for a little while.
I agree dzine acts similarly to methyl masteron, except I think youll gain a little more weight from dzine.
 
What is your cycle support? And what do you have lined up for PCT?
 
Never tried it. I'm up 18 pounds on final week of sd.
 
rynie27 said:
D-zine would be my choice, better strength,weight,and size than i got from superdrol, hdrol, or epi. Unfortunately I had twice the sides of anything else I have run. Lethargy was BRUTAL! Tons of hairless as well, but the gains were pretty great at 30-30-30-45
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You probably would've had better luck staying around 15-20mg then.

Either way lots of good info in this thread.


I nabbed some dymethaberry steel crusher PH for cheap and I'm running them @ 15mg now....
Hell I'm nervous about that & may drop to 10mg but I'll see how it goes.
 
AaronJP1 said:
You probably would've had better luck staying around 15-20mg then.

Either way lots of good info in this thread.

I nabbed some dymethaberry steel crusher PH for cheap and I'm running them @ 15mg now....
Hell I'm nervous about that & may drop to 10mg but I'll see how it goes.
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... Upped it to 20mg so far....

:run:

We will see, although I do have TUDCA as well.
 
strength was rediculous in my last cycle

went like this:
Xtren 90/90/90/120/120/120
Sd 0/ 0/ 0/ 20 / 20 /30

blood pressure, lipids, and liver were pretty jacked up during cycle (got bloods in week 5), but PCT bounced em back.
-just watch out for gyno and a crazy amount of shutdown after a cycle with those compounds.
 
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