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jbryand101b

jbryand101b

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Looking for thoughts on otc ai compounds. Who has a fav oral, transdermal, or novel new ingredient, either current or not in use/production
 
Me personally I really liked 6-bromo
More specific, 2nd gear from ai.
It came with "the one" back when first released then released on its own

My hands down favorite ai product
 
Other. I'm natty with lowish T and high E2. Running Letrone for 30 days and getting bloodwork done right after. Only been about a week so far.

I'm sure some of it is placebo, but taking Letrone pre-workout makes for some sick pumps and I look leaner while pumped up. Also, strength and endurance is up slightly on all lifts.

If I didn't know any better I would say this stuff influences GH release too. Been having deeper sleep and my hands are kinda tingly when I wake up the past couple days. I've read that is a side effect common of MK-677. Maybe I'm just sleeping on them weird or something.
 
I saw something like that on a study posted I think about it. What's in letrone? Is it similar to the new inhibit e?
 
As far as I know it is just some herb called Atractylodes. My joints didn't hurt like this when I tried Inhibit-E in the past, so I may be responding better to this.
 
People talk about arimistane. I liked erase and erase pro for controlling estrogen (the originals) and cortisol control, well, i didn't notice anything similar to reduce xt which I love
 
Also, I'm looking for opinions on current otc ai compounds, as well as ideas from any consumers who think xyz compound would be great to have on the market.
All natural is good but I wouldn't count out an idea for a novel ai for td or oral use
 
Armistane... was my best otc experience yet . I didn't love the joint pain particularly in my ankles and knees . Iam open for suggestions for otc ai's
 
jbryand101b said:
I eat a lot of sea weed, I actually just finished some sea weed chips, so am I getting serm like benefits from it?
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Depending soley on the concentration level of said ingredients i would say . You have to see approximately how much of said ingredients are in the seaweed vs how much are in the blr products. Some are 100:1 for example.
 
jbryand101b said:
What's in sns inhibit e?
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Brassaiopsis glomerulata is a species of shrub in the family Araliaceae. Extracts are sold as bodybuilding supplements based on the assumption that aromatase inhibitors present in the plant might have effects in humans... they use the whole plant . Ive never tried this one . Have you? jbryand101b
 
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Other. I'm natty with lowish T and high E2. Running Letrone for 30 days and getting bloodwork done right after. Only been about a week so far.

I'm sure some of it is placebo, but taking Letrone pre-workout makes for some sick pumps and I look leaner while pumped up. Also, strength and endurance is up slightly on all lifts.

If I didn't know any better I would say this stuff influences GH release too. Been having deeper sleep and my hands are kinda tingly when I wake up the past couple days. I've read that is a side effect common of MK-677. Maybe I'm just sleeping on them weird or something.
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Do you have a log? If not would you mind tagging me or hitting me up with the thread u post bloodwork results in?

Thanks in advance bro.
 
For sure, dude. I don't have a formal log but I will definitely post before and after bloodwork. Probably about two and a half weeks away.
 
jbryand101b I used the new version of Inhibit-E with Brassiowhatever. I liked it and felt like it worked but it wasn't like blowing my mind or anything (not that it has to, I know SNS is solid with their profiles regardless).
 
Used i-force Intimidate SRT wich contains 30mg NMDA and 500mg Brassaiopsis Glomerulata (Highly standardized for (−)-dehydrololiolide ... whatever tht means for them).
Once I ran it bsides Erase Pro (Arimistane formula) and together it absolutely killed my joints, lowered my libido and got me really lethargic but most of that was the Erase Pro.
Then I ran it solo at 2 caps wich seemed to shed some water weight and helped reduce my little gyno a very little. However, the 60mg NMDA put me to sleep very good, but I absolutely wasn't able to get up without at least 10 hours of sleep and even then really tired for the first two hours or so.
Another time I used 1 cap with 300mg 6-bromo. Well, it was not bad, but I prefer 6bromo @450mg. Would love to try it higher, but thats just way too expensive.

Well, best AI I've used based from my feeling on it is really high dosed 6bromo. Most powerful one so far Arimistane but I thing that controlling Cortisol played a big role.
Currently running Triazole @3 caps from Driven Sports and it just seems about as powerful as one cap Intimidate SRT wich is pretty weak and without the sleep inducing effects of the NMDA. Not really happy with this one at the price. Maybe I would need to dose higher but then I would better go straight for 6bromo again with the pices here in europe.
 
Subbed. Why couldn't they just leave formastane alone? Nothing I've used otc compares to forma
 
Formestane is pretty easy to get over here. How much would one need transdermal?
Also whats the point in using Formestane in favour of lets say Arimistane?
 
Bunshichi said:
Formestane is pretty easy to get over here. How much would one need transdermal?
Also whats the point in using Formestane in favour of lets say Arimistane?
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Form is a lot stronger. I love trest and can get away with 150 to 200mg of form ed on a 100mg trest cycle. I wouldn't think of running trest with only armistane
 
Well... 200mg Formestane woulbe about 4$ here... I wouldn't want to pay this.
Maybe i will have to if I consider Trest in the future but I am way too afraid of estro sides to even touch it with a pole...
 
bighulksmash said:
Brassaiopsis glomerulata is a species of shrub in the family Araliaceae. Extracts are sold as bodybuilding supplements based on the assumption that aromatase inhibitors present in the plant might have effects in humans... they use the whole plant . Ive never tried this one . Have you? jbryand101b
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All this natural ai stuff is new so I have some reading to do.
 
Bunshichi said:
Used i-force Intimidate SRT wich contains 30mg NMDA and 500mg Brassaiopsis Glomerulata (Highly standardized for (−)-dehydrololiolide ... whatever tht means for them).
Once I ran it bsides Erase Pro (Arimistane formula) and together it absolutely killed my joints, lowered my libido and got me really lethargic but most of that was the Erase Pro.
Then I ran it solo at 2 caps wich seemed to shed some water weight and helped reduce my little gyno a very little. However, the 60mg NMDA put me to sleep very good, but I absolutely wasn't able to get up without at least 10 hours of sleep and even then really tired for the first two hours or so.
Another time I used 1 cap with 300mg 6-bromo. Well, it was not bad, but I prefer 6bromo @450mg. Would love to try it higher, but thats just way too expensive.

Well, best AI I've used based from my feeling on it is really high dosed 6bromo. Most powerful one so far Arimistane but I thing that controlling Cortisol played a big role.
Currently running Triazole @3 caps from Driven Sports and it just seems about as powerful as one cap Intimidate SRT wich is pretty weak and without the sleep inducing effects of the NMDA. Not really happy with this one at the price. Maybe I would need to dose higher but then I would better go straight for 6bromo again with the pices here in europe.
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The 6-bromo used wasn't quality as 50-75mg is a good dose, 100+mg's being on the high side.
450mg of it would be more trying to use it as a pro hormone and get good conversion into 6-bromo-testosterone.

Since 6-bromo has fallen out of popularity in the U.S., I wouldn't expect companies to put much effort into making a pure clone with the beta isomer.
 
jbryand101b said:
The 6-bromo used wasn't quality as 50-75mg is a good dose, 100+mg's being on the high side.
450mg of it would be more trying to use it as a pro hormone and get good conversion into 6-bromo-testosterone.

Since 6-bromo has fallen out of popularity in the U.S., I wouldn't expect companies to put much effort into making a pure clone with the beta isomer.
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It was from Fusion Supplements but yeah, I guess thats part of why 6bromo so high felt so good. But really, below 300mg it did basically nothing for me. Anyway, the conversion doesn't hurt cause I wouldn't use things that convert in PCT at all.

I do not see the reason why different Companies with 50mg per cap would suggest 3 caps if 1,5 would be sufficient. They would probably just underdose the product a little more.
 
Would be kick ass addition to this AM site and forum if there would be a subforum or specific sticky thread just with bloodwork posted by members taking any of the products - especially with so many new OTC test boosters, AI... now on the market.

Admin - like Product Review section was added eventually, similar there could be Product Bloodwork section.

Or OK anybody could add bloodwork as an attachment while reviewing a product but I think nobody using this feature - much easier if one thread or section dedicated to product bloodwork only.
 
Interesting.
 
ahh123 said:
Would be kick ass addition to this AM site and forum if there would be a subforum or specific sticky thread just with bloodwork posted by members taking any of the products - especially with so many new OTC test boosters, AI... now on the market.

Admin - like Product Review section was added eventually, similar there could be Product Bloodwork section.

Or OK anybody could add bloodwork as an attachment while reviewing a product but I think nobody using this feature - much easier if one thread or section dedicated to product bloodwork only.
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This would be great, would prove or disprove some of the wild claims made by some companies.
 
ahh123 said:
Would be kick ass addition to this AM site and forum if there would be a subforum or specific sticky thread just with bloodwork posted by members taking any of the products - especially with so many new OTC test boosters, AI... now on the market.

Admin - like Product Review section was added eventually, similar there could be Product Bloodwork section.

Or OK anybody could add bloodwork as an attachment while reviewing a product but I think nobody using this feature - much easier if one thread or section dedicated to product bloodwork only.
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Best idea I've heard in a long time when it comes to forum suggestions.
 
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