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Best oral to look good and feel good without test base. Going on vacation for a month out of states. Any thoughts? Thank you.
 
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But just pre workout? Or spaced throughout day? Thought half life very short.
If you wanted to work as a test base you'd have to spread it out throughout the day, probably 3x minimum, you could also just get some 4andro oral or transdermal or dermacrine TD if you wanted something that will work as a test base without the potential side effects and high frequency dosing
 
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Ultra Eleven or Alpha Four (you can still find some at retailers).

Alpha Four for mass and well being

Ultra Eleven for cutting/recomp
 

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I think I misunderstood the thread, your not looking for a test base, your looking for something that dosent need a test base?

Are you on a cycle right now and looking for something to take with you to continue your cycle?
 

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I think I misunderstood the thread, your not looking for a test base, your looking for something that dosent need a test base?

Are you on a cycle right now and looking for something to take with you to continue your cycle?
That will be the plan going into March. Nothing now. Will be test. Just looking for something to help look and feel that is an oral. From just an oral I'm not sure of anything that supports energy and libido. Epiandro does nothing for me... maybe ment if I could find it.
 
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That will be the plan going into March. Nothing now. Will be test. Just looking for something to help look and feel that is an oral. From just an oral I'm not sure of anything that supports energy and libido. Epiandro does nothing for me... maybe ment if I could find it.
Just curious, what dose have you ran epiandro. It's kinda expensive but if you go over 1000mg it is very similar to winni in cosmetic effects and drives up positive aggression, good for workouts and just feeling stimulated.

Oral trestolone probably will be your best replacement "if your limited to a oral" but I think it's going to be the best in terms of how you feel. You need a decent amount of the oral to use it for muscle growth, if going that route I'd stack it with something.

Another option, or 2 options I should say,

You pick up 1 bottle of testosterone undecanoate and take a 1000mg before you leave, you will be good the whole 30 days, or you just use sustanon for your cycle and take 1000 before you leave because it has decanoate in it.

1. Decanoate has a 15 day half life and it takes 5 half life's to eliminate, if you take 1000mg before you leave you will still have 250mg in your system when you get home 30 days later.

2. Undecanoate has a half life of 20 to 30 days, this is what nebido is, if you were running say test e leading up to your vacation at 500mg and pinned another 500 to 1000 of undecanoate before you left then your on a full blown cycle all vacation, you could still bring the oral trest along or any oral for that matter and use it pre workout on vacation.
 
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I think either of those are better options then letting your testosterone clear out completely while your gone, unless your plan is to start pct as soon as you get back. In that case, take your last pin the day you leave, run oral trest and something else "I vote SD or epistane if you can find it" and start pct when you get home.

Back when Olympus carried trest and before I pinned, my favorite cycle was a combination of oral and transdermal trest stacked with epistane or SD
 

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Yeah those seem like the best options. Thank you for your help.
 

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How about low dose Dbol? Keep diet in check and you should be able to keep the bloat away.
 
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Just curious, what dose have you ran epiandro. It's kinda expensive but if you go over 1000mg it is very similar to winni in cosmetic effects and drives up positive aggression, good for workouts and just feeling stimulated.

Oral trestolone probably will be your best replacement "if your limited to a oral" but I think it's going to be the best in terms of how you feel. You need a decent amount of the oral to use it for muscle growth, if going that route I'd stack it with something.

Another option, or 2 options I should say,

You pick up 1 bottle of testosterone undecanoate and take a 1000mg before you leave, you will be good the whole 30 days, or you just use sustanon for your cycle and take 1000 before you leave because it has decanoate in it.

1. Decanoate has a 15 day half life and it takes 5 half life's to eliminate, if you take 1000mg before you leave you will still have 250mg in your system when you get home 30 days later.

2. Undecanoate has a half life of 20 to 30 days, this is what nebido is, if you were running say test e leading up to your vacation at 500mg and pinned another 500 to 1000 of undecanoate before you left then your on a full blown cycle all vacation, you could still bring the oral trest along or any oral for that matter and use it pre workout on vacation.
I actually have raw undecanoate ester I bought just for such an eventuality of travel! I never brewed it but I have it in storage in case that situation comes up!
 

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I actually have raw undecanoate ester I bought just for such an eventuality of travel! I never brewed it but I have it in storage in case that situation comes up!
Yeah it sounds good but couldn't find any source.
 
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Yeah it sounds good but couldn't find any source.
I've never seen it available pre made though im sure it is by someone but quite a few raw suppliers definitely carry it? I have seen the decanoate ester pre-made but either way it's worth it to just brew your own! I've never had an issue with my homebrew and everyone I give it too loves it. It's funny how many premades I tried and got severe PIP or weak effects before I realized how much cheaper and easier brewing it yourself is!!!
 

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