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Best Non Stim Fat Burner?

Slims said:
Stupid question but wouldn't lipo prevent any future fat gains in the treated area due to lack of storage space/fat cells?
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I feel yes due to stopping them from filling back up, but the body can always create more if you eat in too much of a surplus, e.g. if someone uses it to reduce fat gain due to not being able to diet, i feel it could come back which could defeat the whole purpose.
 
paul56778 said:
I feel yes due to stopping them from filling back up, but the body can always create more if you eat in too much of a surplus, e.g. if someone uses it to reduce fat gain due to not being able to diet, i feel it could come back which could defeat the whole purpose.
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I usually like to keep pretty lean, very rarely go over the 15% mark, but my body doesn't have an even distribution of fat. My arms and legs are veiny and quite defined year round but my abs only make an appearance once I drop to single digit bodyfat levels. So liposuction spot reduction could be quite beneficial for somebody like me. Forcing my body to store more fat around my arms and legs could help reduce the joint pains of single digit bodyfat months.
 
Slims said:
I usually like to keep pretty lean, very rarely go over the 15% mark, but my body doesn't have an even distribution of fat. My arms and legs are veiny and quite defined year round but my abs only make an appearance once I drop to single digit bodyfat levels. So liposuction spot reduction could be quite beneficial for somebody like me. Forcing my body to store more fat around my arms and legs could help reduce the joint pains of single digit bodyfat months.
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So what you're saying/theorising is that liposuction would get rid of the fat cells around your abdomen, therefore reducing the amount of fillable fat cells in that area so that your body would distribute surplus calories into fat cells in other areas?
 
InItForGainz said:
So what you're saying/theorising is that liposuction would get rid of the fat cells around your abdomen, therefore reducing the amount of fillable fat cells in that area so that your body would distribute surplus calories into fat cells in other areas?
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Pretty much yeah.
In theory it would be easier for the body to store surplus calories into pre-existing fat cells than it would to have to produce/grow a new fat cell. And having a little more fat around my arm and knee joints come cutting season would be a great help.
 
I love DCP, Assassinate, and Brite...Dcp always tore up my stomach though...the year supply of brite looks good...
 
Hey guys just started the assassinate yesterday. Looking forward to it, using it in conjunction with minimal stims in AM and cup of black coffee pre workout. Along with IF three 72 gram protein pulses through day plus an 800 cal no carb meal at night. Cheat one every 14. I’ll report back next week.
 
Jm88888 said:
Hey guys just started the assassinate yesterday. Looking forward to it, using it in conjunction with minimal stims in AM and cup of black coffee pre workout. Along with IF three 72 gram protein pulses through day plus an 800 cal no carb meal at night. Cheat one every 14. I’ll report back next week.
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Reporting back after 5 days:

Body weight: down 4.5 lbs
Dropped 1 lbs fat
(I know that ratio looks like crap, but I’m aggressively trying to lose fat as fast as possible). My strength numbers are not dropping, if anything they are inching up slightly.

Cheat day coming next weekend. Excited to see how the GDA handles the carbs that I’ll be throwing at it.

No noticeable sides either
 
Yo. I’m getting pumps on like 15 net carbs a day!!! Wasn’t getting them really at all before assassinate. Just noticed it now. Incredible.
 
DCP order is in. There was a delay as the Gamma-Mangostin extract is no longer available in my specifications. I was able to find an ingredient that is more potent in increasing PPAR delta expression as well as some other great angles. The order has gone in, and I'm hoping it's able to ship before the Chinese New Year break. If so, presales will be up next week with final product delivery by the first week in March.

These WILL go extremely fast.
 
Slims said:
Fat cells don't multiply though. They expand/fill (surplus) or shrink/empty (deficit).
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Fat cells are constantly dying off (apoptosis) and being created via stem cells and preadipocytes.
 
dsade said:
DCP order is in. There was a delay as the Gamma-Mangostin extract is no longer available in my specifications. I was able to find an ingredient that is more potent in increasing PPAR delta expression as well as some other great angles. The order has gone in, and I'm hoping it's able to ship before the Chinese New Year break. If so, presales will be up next week with final product delivery by the first week in March.

These WILL go extremely fast.
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Haven't tried DCP since TTA was in it. I'll definitely be getting some when it's available.
 
BigGame84 said:
Haven't tried DCP since TTA was in it. I'll definitely be getting some when it's available.
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Whoa there, old timer.

TTA was great but we've made some pretty dramatic advancements in the formula. You will be pleased.
 
dsade said:
Whoa there, old timer.

TTA was great but we've made some pretty dramatic advancements in the formula. You will be pleased.
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Had a very high incidence of adverse sides in heaps of people though, I could never prevent cramping going over 500mg a day. Strange there really hasn't been a heap of research on it in the last half decade, despite many supp companies claiming "big pharma" took over roflll
 
NoAddedHmones said:
Had a very high incidence of adverse sides in heaps of people though, I could never prevent cramping going over 500mg a day. Strange there really hasn't been a heap of research on it in the last half decade, despite many supp companies claiming "big pharma" took over roflll
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It was going into human trials a long time ago, but I haven't seen any updates.
 
josun said:
Lol I ran dcp with no problem until my last dosage. I just wanted to curl up in a ball
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I generally have a pretty tough stomach but I had weird pains and took me a while to figure out it was DCP...the stuff is the best though...lol
 
KimChee said:
I generally have a pretty tough stomach but I had weird pains and took me a while to figure out it was DCP...the stuff is the best though...lol
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I've addressed this in the updated formula due out in a few weeks.
 
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