Best NON - methlylated PH?

1-andro/ 4-andro stacked.
BEST non-methyl would be trest but the sides are enough to scare me away haha if you're experienced go with trest
 
I personally like the 1 andro 4 andro stack as well!! Hard rock supplements has an awesome combo. andro the giant and supermandro.
 
With the 1-4 andro stack should I be worried bout gyno? Basically what sides should I expect? And what dosing do you guys abide by?
 
For me 1-Andro with Dermacrine and epiandro. Just finished up a 6 week cycle of it 500 mg daily 200 mg epi and 3 pumps of Dermacrine and ended up with 14 pounds gain. Body fat the same to. Really underestimated 1- Andro potential. I used finaflex which I had stocked up on. 100mg capsules. Everything else out there is only 25-50 mg which is pathetic.
 
Also look into 6 mass from lg science. Haven't had much user feed back on it though. I used that a while ago and leaned out while weighing about same. It was good for recomp. Gonna get 2 bottles of it and max out the dose while using epiandro at 400mg for 6 weeks on my cut. Shredded for days I hope.
 
Tren for me, always treated me great with almost no side effects.
 
Sides should be mild. Maybe slight increase in blood pressure, altered lipid profile, I've never seen many sides in anyone I've known to run that combo. The 4 andro does convert to test so the possibility of estrogen sides are a possibility but I wouldn't imagine you would have any issue honestly.
 
afluck410 said:
1-andro/ 4-andro stacked.
BEST non-methyl would be trest but the sides are enough to scare me away haha if you're experienced go with trest
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Don't be scared! If you set up your cycle properly, you can effectively combat most sides. yates84 is running 150mg dermatrest/trest ed and I don't believe he's getting any sides - even bloating. But his cycle support is on point
 
BRUstrong said:
Don't be scared! If you set up your cycle properly, you can effectively combat most sides. yates84 is running 150mg dermatrest/trest ed and I don't believe he's getting any sides - even bloating. But his cycle support is on point
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Yep, 150mg of trest ed. Feel fantastic with no sides but this is my 3rd trest run and I know exactly how I react
 
yates84 said:
Yep, 150mg of trest ed. Feel fantastic with no sides but this is my 3rd trest run and I know exactly how I react
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any tips how can we combat high risk of permanent infertility on trest? I know all ass/ph gives risk but this stuff Is special....
 
T-Bone said:
I didn't get much from it at all. I used bulk powder. Pretty mild stuff I remember on strength gains, but actually harsher on the liver than expected.
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I blew up using iforce bold. I read some of the boldione can actually convert to dbol through 3hsd enzyme. Just as m1,4add can convert to both dbol and boldenone
 
bluems10 said:
is trest really that strong for fertility issues? I thought it was just used as a male contraceptive while on the cycle?
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Its been tested as a contraceptive at the dose of 1mg I believe.
 
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