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Looking for a good natural test booster for a little extra kick in the gym. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
CEL M-Test is easily one of (if not the) best on the market. Open label, patented ingredients, clinical doses, and almost always on sale somewhereLooking for a good natural test booster for a little extra kick in the gym. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
+1 on M-Test profile. Should’ve included it in my postCEL M-Test is easily one of (if not the) best on the market. Open label, patented ingredients, clinical doses, and almost always on sale somewhere
Alphamax contains a 200:1 standardized longjack extract vs LJ100, which is 100:1 standardization. Corrected in my post above....Definitely do not see lj100 in alphamax? That needs to be corrected.
Eurycoma Longifolia aka LongjackDefinitely do not see lj100 in alphamax? That needs to be corrected.
I would choose FADOGIA over longjack [lj100] every day of the week and twice on sundays.I would either use CEL M-Test or stack SNS Bulbine and DAA. However, I’m biased towards M-Test because it has Fadogia (full spectrum) at 1.2g per serving and I respond very well to fadogia. Helps that M test has the standardized KSM66 (ashwaganda) in there as well.
I'd only use DAA if you have low-T, as it's been shown to have no effect in resistance trained individuals with normal T-levels, and even may be bad for T if double dosed. Plus the studies seem to show no performance/gain benefits in these healthy subjects, so it's not like some other ingredients that may not dramatically increase T, but can still provide increased endurance or gains via other MoAs (like adaptogens).I would either use CEL M-Test or stack SNS Bulbine and DAA. However, I’m biased towards M-Test because it has Fadogia (full spectrum) at 1.2g per serving and I respond very well to fadogia. Helps that M test has the standardized KSM66 (ashwaganda) in there as well.
I’m working on the assumption *most* who are looking for a “natural” test booster have been shown to have low test levels, hence the suggestion.I'd only use DAA if you have low-T, as it's been shown to have no effect in resistance trained individuals with normal T-levels, and even may be bad for T if double dosed. Plus the studies seem to show no performance/gain benefits in these healthy subjects, so it's not like some other ingredients that may not dramatically increase T, but can still provide increased endurance or gains via other MoAs (like adaptogens).
Same.I would choose FADOGIA over longjack [lj100] every day of the week and twice on sundays.
this might sound dumb, but if you are on trt your natural t-level is going to be low...would you qualify as having low test even though you test at a higher range due to being on trt?I’m working on the assumption *most* who are looking for a “natural” test booster have been shown to have low test levels, hence the suggestion.
I don't know about that. A lot of people just inherently assume that more testosterone = more energy, gains, and libido. I've seen people in high school come into VS back when I worked there looking for testosterone boosters. Even if something like ashwagandha or tongkat ali won't increase testosterone to supraphysiological levels if a normal person, they can still increase endurance, mood, libido, etc. for them, so they're not useless.I’m working on the assumption *most* who are looking for a “natural” test booster have been shown to have low test levels, hence the suggestion.
I’m sure that’s true in your experience. I correlated “a little extra kick” to actual fatigue (definitely a reach, should have kept it in context) so I suggested probable test increases from three products.I don't know about that. A lot of people just inherently assume that more testosterone = more energy, gains, and libido. I've seen people in high school come into VS back when I worked there looking for testosterone boosters. Even if something like ashwagandha or tongkat ali won't increase testosterone to supraphysiological levels if a normal person, they can still increase endurance, mood, libido, etc. for them, so they're not useless.
OP, do you have low-T, or are you just looking for a "little extra kick in the gym" like you said in your post?
I’m not here for an argument, I was just clarifying for OP. If he has actual low-T, DAA could help, if not, it’s likely a waste. I’ll let OP make his decision of where he stands instead of speculating more. No hard feelings.I’m sure that’s true in your experience. I correlated “a little extra kick” to actual fatigue (definitely a reach, should have kept it in context) so I suggested probable test increases from three products.
If I wanted a kick in the gym, I would take BPEA, NALT, 100/200mg caffeine and call it good, IMO.
I remember when T Force by Omega was still out (or is it still?) I ran this NUMEROUS times and was my favorite solo ingredient.I do like lj100 best but need to try a quality solo fadogia. Loved it back in the day, not a fan of any of the combo products that contain it now.
There are a few sites that sell the product with 10-15% off store wide.Any sales or coupons for Cel M Test?
There's a site that has it on sale now 2 jars for $49.99 which is a decent deal if interested.Any sales or coupons for Cel M Test?
How good is the Longjack 200:1 Extract? Everyone seems to talk about 100:1 or LJ100Alphamax would also be a great choice. Contains both KSM-66 and Longjack (200:1) , along with a few other solid natural test ingredients and a natural AI. Alphamax has a very complete profile to give an extra kick
What difference between the two standardisations? Which is better quality or potent? ThanksEurycoma Longifolia aka Longjack
300mg dose @ 200:1 standardization
Plus all the other goodies that it includes. One of the best all around.
***Just saw John posted above while I was replying
LJ100 gets talked about because it has the most studies on it. There are newer better extracts. The primary active is thought to be Eurycomanone. LJ100 I believe is about 1% Eurycomanone, I think M-Test and AlphaMax both have 2%. Not positive, but I think so.How good is the Longjack 200:1 Extract? Everyone seems to talk about 100:1 or LJ100
What extract of Long Jack does M-Test use? is it more potent than LJ100?LJ100 gets talked about because it has the most studies on it. There are newer better extracts. The primary active is thought to be Eurycomanone. LJ100 I believe is about 1% Eurycomanone, I think M-Test and AlphaMax both have 2%. Not positive, but I think so.
We don't specify the type used in M-Test. We've already had enough companies try to copy it over the years; definitely don't want to make it any easier on themWhat extract of Long Jack does M-Test use? is it more potent than LJ100?
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