Best Muscle building supplement thats not a ph or ds?
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foland
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I take ON protein now. And i have taken DHEA and it actually seemed to do something as i had i higher libido and surprisingly got back pumps when i was taking 50mg a day. And i guess i shouldn't say i was a non-responder since i kept a lot of my strength on my cut but lost some of it when i stopped but i didnt notice any muscle gain.
CaponeCEO
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Creatine doesnt build muscle but retains water in the cells of the muscle giving them a more full feel/appearance. The benefits of it include some strength and alot of recovery. I wouldn't take a test booster at your age either. I would just take your current diet, post it, and see what can be done to boost all the necessities up.
foland
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Thanks, do you have any informational links? And capone my diet is very light since im trying to lose 10 more lbs then i will go on a clean bulk.
Jayhawkk
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At your age you should be able to gain muscle with the proper diet. A lot of people's "in check" usually means quite the opposite. If it is in fact in check then you could be having prolems elsewhere that should be checked out to rule out any other physiological issues.
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At your age you should be able to gain muscle with the proper diet. A lot of people's "in check" usually means quite the opposite. If it is in fact in check then you could be having prolems elsewhere that should be checked out to rule out any other physiological issues.
foland
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Im not saying im not making gains because i am. I just want to make the most gains i can. To me if i can make better or more gains than i already am then why not?
gamer2be08
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In the long-run, creatine will in fact help you build lean tissue.
CaponeCEO
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Do you mean recovery aided by creatine will help build lean tissue?
gamer2be08
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Not what I meant. By being able to push yourself harder/more explosively and longer as well as cell volumization. Muscle growth occurs, via a process known as the dehydration synthesis. What does this mean? The dehydration synthesis is the process in which larger molecules are formed. In this case we are referring to muscle protein. And this is also referred to, as of course protein synthesis. Consequently, many journals point, to creatine actually enhancing this.
CaponeCEO
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I am not saying you are wrong, but I have a hard time understanding how creatine is actively involved with protein synthesis. I would agree that creatine causing longer workouts/strenght gains would tear muscle more thus allowing true REM protein synthesis to occur for rebuilding. Can you break it down on a molecular level?
lookingtogro
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I've never heard of someone not responding at all to a quality creatine. You won't experience the kind of pumps that ph, ds, or aas would give you, but if you're using it right you should benefit from the use of it...
Distilled Water
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Amen to that brother! Check this out to help prove Jayhawk's statment...
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You're over complicating things and coming off as a know it all prick. Not saying you are by any means. Just that you're coming off as one.
Creatine is the god father of modern day OTC supplement muscle/strength builder..period. No need to get fancy with why, it just does. Anyone can use google and look up why.
wastedwhiteboy2
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try one of the nutrient partitioners. I like glycobol but there are other good ones too. look them up.
CaponeCEO
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Know it all prick? That's a great one!! I was asking a question that I DIDNT KNOW. You need to learn to understand what you read. If you want to be a simpleton thats your business (not saying you are one), but I prefer to learn how things work from people who understand more then me.
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R1balla
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dont take DHEA at your age...bad idea. Prime has increased my strength but hasnt really built much muscle. i stack Prime with creatine and a test booster to gain muscle. diet is KEY though. if ur wanting to gain muscle u gotta eat MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE food. and by this i mean quality food. hope this helps
Distilled Water
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Simpleton ehh? yes that's it.Thanks for the advice, i'll look into it. I'm sensing some hostility, not really sure why there is any.
Phrase your questions a little better then because you're coming off as arrogant and stuff like this should be discussed through PM's or different threads entirely, no need to clutter up for the OP.
CaponeCEO
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DHEA "might" stimulate testosterone, a test-booster probably will work. Although test boosters seem pretty harmless to me, some people swear that you shouldn't do them at a young age.
CaponeCEO
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No hostility bro. Just jabbing back from your original jab. Understanding how creatine really works would help the OP because he is trying to figure out why creatine hasn't worked for him. He might not really care how it truly works, but sometimes understaning it is the best way to track personal progression.
Distilled Water
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Yes creatine can have an impact on protein systhesis in cardiac and sketel muscle, I remember reading that on Pubmed I believe. I'll try and look for the study, i think it was one of the orginals..from the 70's or 80's i think.