with all the pollution and unsanitary conditions in china, it's a miracle if the supps are as clean as you say they are. anything grown there should be contaminated unless it's grown in a lab with controlled air/water.
You continue to make assumptions about an entire country based off what you see on the news.
China covers a huge geographical region.
They have major cities, small towns, and rural communities just like the US.
Making the assumption that the entire country is one way (pollution, unsanitary) would be like making the assumption that every city in the US had the murder rate of Chicago, the homeless population of certain ones in CA, the water pollution issues faced by some, etc. Every country has their issues, including the US; but that doesn't mean that it is reflective of the entire country.
I don't really care where you like China or whether you don't - you're entitled to whatever political views you wish.
I'm simply commenting on it from a quality control standpoint - and quality control doesn't come from political views, your or my opinions, it comes from facts - and those facts come from science - identity testing, microbial testing, heavy metals testing, etc.
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Here's a great example of how a world view of my own got changed from seeing first hand about another country being entirely different than I thought it was based on how it was portrayed on the US news.
That example would be Uganda.
Uganda is often shown on the news looking like some third world country and people talk about the pollution there. And the news makes it out like everyone there is miserable and starving. I've been there. And I admit that based on the perceptions that I had, I originally didn't want to go but I'm so glad that I did. In Uganda, I met some of the nicest, most motivated, and happiest people I've ever met in my life. The major cities are not much different than our major cities; and regarding the pollution, I can breathe there better than I can in the US for the most part (lack of allergens + nowhere near the pollution that they say). Every time you see it on the news, you see these dirt roads and villages and they act like there are no paved roads and people walking or riding motorbikes everywhere. But they have major roads connecting the cities all around the country and they don't have speed bumps - they have random speed humps to control speeding - and if you're going too fast and hit one of those bad boys its game over for your vehicle haha.
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In regards to your comment about IF they are as clean as I say:
You included the word 'IF' there like you're trying to imply that I don't know what I'm talking about.
I am probably the most outspoken person on AM about quality control - both in terms of the raw material supply chain and finished products.
I've done raw material sourcing in this industry since 2004 and handle raw material sourcing for over a dozen companies which includes vetting and qualifying raw material suppliers and handling raw material testing and GMP compliance for various companies in the industry in addition to my own.
I deal with raw material suppliers in dozens of countries and testing facilities all over the world.
Every year, I see test results on raw materials from dozens of countries and hundreds of total samples.
One of the reasons that you see me myself speak out a lot about quality control or lack thereof in this industry is that we spend ten's of thousands of dollars per year in quality testing and ten's of more thousands of dollars per year to be GMP compliant yet there are companies out there that still tell people to buy their magical ingredients that don't even bother to do basic heavy metals or microbial testing.
Quality control is what it is - science - identity testing, microbial testing, heavy metals testing, etc.
It's not about politics; it's not about your opinions or my opinions; its just straight facts.
I'm nice enough to spend a lot of time here on AM trying to help people and I try to share a lot of industry insights with people because I have a lot of people tell me that they like and enjoy that - both posters and people that contact me that read but don't post. Because I enjoy helping people and educating people that are interested on things like this.