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Best for holding on to muscles during a cut

What supp/

  • Retain 1

    Votes: 5 2.8%

  • Jungle Warfare

    Votes: 16 9.0%

  • Lean Xtrme

    Votes: 7 3.9%

  • NHA stack

    Votes: 14 7.9%

  • Retain 2

    Votes: 19 10.7%

  • Cissus

    Votes: 8 4.5%

  • BCAA's

    Votes: 109 61.2%
  • Total voters
    178
1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. Heavy weights. 80% compound exercises. Supplements are just icing on the cake.

- Use Don't Abuse
 
natiels said:
I would vote for cissus even tho it is not on there. It blocks cortisol wonderfully and the joint relief is great with the slight anabolic punch (prolly due to the previously mentioned cort blocking though). I got heart palapatations from retain so that makes cissus even more attractive to me since it gives me no sides at all.
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Heart palpatations from RETAIN??? Are you sure that's what did it? That's really odd. I don't know what in retain would do that. Even though there is some T3 elevation......

I like retain 2 and BCAA's but voted for retain 2 because I think BCAA'S are kind of a given. R2 has some nice extra leaning effects as well.
 
TTewell said:
Heart palpatations from RETAIN??? Are you sure that's what did it? That's really odd. I don't know what in retain would do that. Even though there is some T3 elevation......

I like retain 2 and BCAA's but voted for retain 2 because I think BCAA'S are kind of a given. R2 has some nice extra leaning effects as well.
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heart palps from retain 1 are totally possible considering it contained Tyramine. :trout:
 
dan7681 said:
That sounds pretty good (although I'd save the PowerFULL until later)

My next cutting stack:
X-Factor
DCP
BCAAs
Glutamine ( I got a big jug free from work :D )
low dosed fish oil
Green Mag
Thyrotabs (might use the last 4 weeks depending on progress)

I have high hopes for this stack :)
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How did this end up going for ya Dan?
 
ZoRomo77 said:
my current cut:

Xtend
Poseidon
Reset ad
Clear Edge
DCP
Incarnate
Powerfull
Bulk Sesathin
Retain 2
low dose atd
BAM
a little simulant x
Grape seed extract
Green tea extract
Hyluronic Acid
Multi
Fish oils

plus i'm finishing up a bottle of rpm. Talk about kitchen sink. :run: I KNOW this stack has got to make sinner cringe. :hammer:
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Haha WOW!

What is hyluronic acid/use?
 
Wait until the new anabolic from Applied Nutraceuticals comes out, you will all be very impressed!
 
mmm I took retain 1.... it started leaning me out with barely any cardio and i was getting stronger... dunno how u can beat that?

ive been doing my bcaas, 3 shakes a day, and i drink my xtend through out training and to be honest, my recovery isnt better, im still sore and i havent noticed anything else :|
 
The best (otc) is the combination of Creatine, HMB, Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Pyruvate. Individually almost useless, but together make the ultimate cortisol blocking, fat metabolizing supplement ever.

I lost 70lbs of fat while not holding but gaining 23lbs of muscle in less than 6 months with these when Body for Life came out.
 
tamiller866 said:
The best (otc) is the combination of Creatine, HMB, Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Pyruvate. Individually almost useless, but together make the ultimate cortisol blocking, fat metabolizing supplement ever.

I lost 70lbs of fat while not holding but gaining 23lbs of muscle in less than 6 months with these when Body for Life came out.
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Do u really need the HMB? I have all this in stock. How much PYRUVATE DID U TAKE? How long can u take all thie safely? Ill add it to my stash!
 
tamiller866 said:
The best (otc) is the combination of Creatine, HMB, Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Pyruvate. Individually almost useless, but together make the ultimate cortisol blocking, fat metabolizing supplement ever.

I lost 70lbs of fat while not holding but gaining 23lbs of muscle in less than 6 months with these when Body for Life came out.
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That's better than 99% of people who run hard AAS cycles with a perfect diet for that amount of time......
 
tamiller866 said:
The best (otc) is the combination of Creatine, HMB, Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Pyruvate. Individually almost useless, but together make the ultimate cortisol blocking, fat metabolizing supplement ever.

I lost 70lbs of fat while not holding but gaining 23lbs of muscle in less than 6 months with these when Body for Life came out.
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I would assume you had such good gains because you were overweight and sedentary. You probably would not be so lucky next time around because your body is used to working out now.
 
Grant said:
I would assume you had such good gains because you were overweight and sedentary. You probably would not be so lucky next time around because your body is used to working out now.
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True, but I don't have 70lbs of fat to lose now either. The best part of Bill Phillips' program is that the weight never came back.
 
AdelV said:
Do u really need the HMB? I have all this in stock. How much PYRUVATE DID U TAKE? How long can u take all thie safely? Ill add it to my stash!
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Bill believes the HMB to be the MOST important part. Myself, I feel none are of much value without all the others.

Pyruvate was 2g twice a day. You can take them as long as you want, unlike the steroid route these supplements improve your over all health.

I was also mega dosing B vitamins and taking a generic multi btw.
 
msucurt said:
You got that right. And i just got me a big ole' tub of the xtend grape. I finally bowed up and got the big one instead of the small ones.
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Good idea with the bigger tub, the grape is awesome. The funny thing with this poll is while the answer is very simple, people like to make things much more complicated when it comes to diet and supplementation. Rule of thumb, always get the basics first!
 
thesinner said:
If you buy ecdy or turk in bulk, and cap it yourself, it's more cost-efficient. Many of the products in the 90's were, in my opinion, underdosed. There's also an oral bioavailability factor, is greatly increased with the addition of piperidine.

I'm currently cutting, using turkesterone (2%) @ 3g ED. I'm a firm believer that ecdysteroids are underrated.
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Hey man can you post on where you can buy ecdysterone in bulk
 
I like bcaa's as well. I think someone asked the question earlier and I don't think it was answered. At what dose do people take bcaa's when cutting?
 
I gotta go with BCAAs also, i've gotten great results.

Also, Uni-liver. 20-25 a day with Xtend/core ABC pre and post and I'm set.
 
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