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Anybody who has actually done research on these supplements almost always advises against combining yohimbine HCL with EC. At a minimum, take yohimbine + caffeine fasted in the morning, and then wait four hours before taking your first EC dosage.

Additionally, taking yohimbine pre workout really has no benefit unless your workout is fasted, and consists solely of cardio.

Either take EC 3x per day and wait to take yohibimbine until you are cycling off of the EC, or
Take YC in the morning, followed by 2 doses of EC later in the day.

While across the board that is a good recco - If you TEST, you can take Y with E. But if you don't test, then your way would be the way. Then there's the fact that the supp industry hangs Yohimbine effectiveness on just one study, LOL :D So I don't think you'd be missing much not taking it.
 
Dosage of alpha-y vs yhcl? I can tolerate 10-15mg, any thoughts on alpha? Comparable results?

The first re-release when shifting from an herbal extract to the HCl salt I made then at 8mg These were far too potent for most users. The version out now is 3mg and they are perfect,
 
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