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Follidrone. The original Epi product and the only one that has worked CONSISTENTLY for me.
 
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2nd CEL Epi-Plex
 
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HMM :) seems like Epiplex or ep1c are the main go to
 
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For price and quality ~ CEL Epi-Plex cant be beat. If you like transdermals the OL's Ep1c Unleashed is a good product.
Stay away from the prop blends;)
Good suggestions right here!
 
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I personally like follidrone. But epicat, epi 2.0, and anafuse are all great supps wiht epi in it.
 

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Follidrone was a miss for me but Ep1c Unleased was g2g. Not bashing Folli or BLR, just what happened to me for some reason.
 
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really depends .. TD i would say OL's .. caps cel epi-plex 300mg/per cap.. you know what your getting and great reviews
 

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I preferred Follidrone over OG Ep1c.

That said, I have just put in an order for Ep1c Unleashed...I assume with better absorption there is no need to even think about going over 2 tabs?

Also, with Follidrone and OG Ep1c I dosed 2xpre-workout but I have been reading on here about split doses...with Ep1c Unleashed what should I do...stick to 2xpre or 1xpre-workout , 1xpre-bed?

Looking forward to trying this.

Thanks.
 

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I preferred Follidrone over OG Ep1c.

That said, I have just put in an order for Ep1c Unleashed...I assume with better absorption there is no need to even think about going over 2 tabs?

Also, with Follidrone and OG Ep1c I dosed 2xpre-workout but I have been reading on here about split doses...with Ep1c Unleashed what should I do...stick to 2xpre or 1xpre-workout , 1xpre-bed?

Looking forward to trying this.

Thanks.
Oral EU - stick to 2 pre-wo
TD EU - could split the pumps just make sure it's not close to the time you shower
 
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For price and quality ~ CEL Epi-Plex cant be beat. If you like transdermals the OL's Ep1c Unleashed is a good product.
Stay away from the prop blends;)
Correct!

I scooped up 4 bottles of EpiPlex on sale. I think that's enough to give it a fair run : )
 
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Follidrex.. Epi, cheap, win.
EpiPlex still comes out cheaper + added absorption (not that epi has THAT bad of absorption orally anyway but...)

EpiPlex $29.99 300mg x 60 caps = 18,000mg/bottle

Follidrex $9.99 150mg x 30 caps = 4500mg/bottle

You would need 4 bottles of Follidrex ($39.99) to = 1 bottle of EpiPlex
 
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EpiPlex still comes out cheaper + added absorption (not that epi has THAT bad of absorption orally anyway but...)

EpiPlex $29.99 300mg x 60 caps = 18,000mg/bottle

Follidrex $9.99 150mg x 30 caps = 4500mg/bottle

You would need 4 bottles of Follidrex ($39.99) to = 1 bottle of EpiPlex
Not sure where you're seeing EpiPlex for $29.99..
 
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Not sure where you're seeing EpiPlex for $29.99..
Nutra @ 29.99. Nutriverse also has Epi-plex for just a few bucks more which is still a solid deal.
 
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Lol ^
 
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follidrone and ep1c unleashed worked great for me. ep1c (original) and epiplex work ok.
 
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Exactly. Hate when people say things like that.
I also think a lot of it has to do with "inexperience" with supplements in general, and as a consequence, unrealistic expectations. Which leads to the inability to accurately discern small changes in performance and body composition as a result of said supplements, ultimately leading to the "I'm a non-responder/It doesn't work" conclusions.

Everybody wants that quick fix....meanwhile PH are long gone.

#Gainz
 
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I also think a lot of it has to do with "inexperience" with supplements in general, and as a consequence, unrealistic expectations. Which leads to the inability to accurately discern small changes in performance and body composition as a result of said supplements, ultimately leading to the "I'm a non-responder/It doesn't work" conclusions.

Everybody wants that quick fix....meanwhile PH are long gone.

#Gainz
-Epi worked very well for me. Even if you do happen to be a non-responder, the placebo effect can be very real thing.
 

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-Epi worked very well for me. Even if you do happen to be a non-responder, the placebo effect can be very real thing.
I tried hyping myself up for Follidrone but it didn't work lol
 
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I tried hyping myself up for Follidrone but it didn't work lol
Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lol
 
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Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lol
I agree, judging by the sheer amount of people saying -epi in one product is better than -epi in another product, there is obviously some strong placebo gains you are missing out on.
 

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Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lol
Lol no, I was reading all the logs and saw the results people for from it; I was sweating more from it but no heightened endurance or strength. I'll be stick with EU and I'll try out BLRs New -epi once its out. Not sure if it matters but I I have Cohn's, I wonder if that isn't good for bioavailability.
 

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I agree, judging by the sheer amount of people saying -epi in one product is better than -epi in another product, there is obviously some strong placebo gains you are missing out on.
I'm not claiming one -epi is better then the other but that the added ingredients that help with bioavailability actually help.
 
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I'm not claiming one -epi is better then the other but that the added ingredients that help with bioavailability actually help.
Chill dude was sarcasm that post.
 
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Oh ok, I just didn't want to come across as "that guy" but I ended up being "that other guy" lol
You have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .
 

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You have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .
Honestly I don't fully understand placebo but generally speaking if you 100% think something will happen if you take/do something it should happen.
 
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You have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .
Also, is there any place that sells this "placebo" you speak about in bulk? I wanna get mad gainz bros
 
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Another vote for Epi-Plex, if for no other reason than price. cant beat it.
 
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Also, is there any place that sells this "placebo" you speak about in bulk? I wanna get mad gainz bros
I think what you speak of is Force Factor, I heard the rock took it and and look at him now!
 
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Now should I take that on an empty stomach or with a meal ; )
You gotta open all the caps put em in a turkey baster then each day u put 2 grams into a troll cup with troll tea amd stir with a troll spoon haa
 
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I think what you speak of is Force Factor, I heard the rock took it and and look at him now!
Thanks man...almost bought some Muscle Tech instead haha. I heard 15lbs in one month.

**End of my thread de-rail.

Epi-Plex certainly is economical and I have faith its a quality extract. I'm 11 days into my run with it right now.
 
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http ://phwsupplements.com/srm-epicatechin-lgd-4033-by-xcel-sports-nutrition/ best one out by far
 

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http ://phwsupplements.com/srm-epicatechin-lgd-4033-by-xcel-sports-nutrition/ best one out by far
As a LGD product I really think it was under dosed or non existent. I did gain 8lbs on it in 2 months but I went to 16mgs of LGD and it didn't feel like LGD. I think the combo of -epi, laxo, and andro throws the user off into thinking its the LGD but I know gainz would have been way better. I had better results from 8mgs of PNs LGD.
 
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As a LGD product I really think it was under dosed or non existent. I did gain 8lbs on it in 2 months but I went to 16mgs of LGD and it didn't feel like LGD. I think the combo of -epi, laxo, and andro throws the user off into thinking its the LGD but I know gainz would have been way better. I had better results from 8mgs of PNs LGD.
Well if the compete for receptors its pointless but the lgd 4033 has solid reviews . Ive seen some people who didnt feel it but that happens with everything.
 

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