MassMonster76
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Another vote for Epi-Plex, on my third bottle. Follidrone is a solid choice as well.2nd CEL Epi-Plex
Good suggestions right here!For price and quality ~ CEL Epi-Plex cant be beat. If you like transdermals the OL's Ep1c Unleashed is a good product.
Stay away from the prop blends
Oral EU - stick to 2 pre-woI preferred Follidrone over OG Ep1c.
That said, I have just put in an order for Ep1c Unleashed...I assume with better absorption there is no need to even think about going over 2 tabs?
Also, with Follidrone and OG Ep1c I dosed 2xpre-workout but I have been reading on here about split doses...with Ep1c Unleashed what should I do...stick to 2xpre or 1xpre-workout , 1xpre-bed?
Looking forward to trying this.
Thanks.
Perfect! Thanks!Oral EU - stick to 2 pre-wo
TD EU - could split the pumps just make sure it's not close to the time you shower
Correct!For price and quality ~ CEL Epi-Plex cant be beat. If you like transdermals the OL's Ep1c Unleashed is a good product.
Stay away from the prop blends
EpiPlex still comes out cheaper + added absorption (not that epi has THAT bad of absorption orally anyway but...)Follidrex.. Epi, cheap, win.
Not sure where you're seeing EpiPlex for $29.99..EpiPlex still comes out cheaper + added absorption (not that epi has THAT bad of absorption orally anyway but...)
EpiPlex $29.99 300mg x 60 caps = 18,000mg/bottle
Follidrex $9.99 150mg x 30 caps = 4500mg/bottle
You would need 4 bottles of Follidrex ($39.99) to = 1 bottle of EpiPlex
Nutra @ 29.99. Nutriverse also has Epi-plex for just a few bucks more which is still a solid deal.Not sure where you're seeing EpiPlex for $29.99..
You can find it between $30-$32 easilyNot sure where you're seeing EpiPlex for $29.99..
I'm guessing you were a non responder? Doesn't mean OP is one as well.None actually... Save your cash
Exactly. Hate when people say things like that.I'm guessing you were a non responder? Doesn't mean OP is one as well.
I hate that my like button disappeared after i liked that post wtf .. GOD fix pls ?Exactly. Hate when people say things like that.
I also think a lot of it has to do with "inexperience" with supplements in general, and as a consequence, unrealistic expectations. Which leads to the inability to accurately discern small changes in performance and body composition as a result of said supplements, ultimately leading to the "I'm a non-responder/It doesn't work" conclusions.Exactly. Hate when people say things like that.
-Epi worked very well for me. Even if you do happen to be a non-responder, the placebo effect can be very real thing.I also think a lot of it has to do with "inexperience" with supplements in general, and as a consequence, unrealistic expectations. Which leads to the inability to accurately discern small changes in performance and body composition as a result of said supplements, ultimately leading to the "I'm a non-responder/It doesn't work" conclusions.
Everybody wants that quick fix....meanwhile PH are long gone.
#Gainz
I tried hyping myself up for Follidrone but it didn't work lol-Epi worked very well for me. Even if you do happen to be a non-responder, the placebo effect can be very real thing.
Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lolI tried hyping myself up for Follidrone but it didn't work lol
I agree, judging by the sheer amount of people saying -epi in one product is better than -epi in another product, there is obviously some strong placebo gains you are missing out on.Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lol
Lol no, I was reading all the logs and saw the results people for from it; I was sweating more from it but no heightened endurance or strength. I'll be stick with EU and I'll try out BLRs New -epi once its out. Not sure if it matters but I I have Cohn's, I wonder if that isn't good for bioavailability.Did you look in the mirror and slap your self silly saying "this will work "?? If not give it another shot lol
I'm not claiming one -epi is better then the other but that the added ingredients that help with bioavailability actually help.I agree, judging by the sheer amount of people saying -epi in one product is better than -epi in another product, there is obviously some strong placebo gains you are missing out on.
You guys are both right in a senseI'm not claiming one -epi is better then the other but that the added ingredients that help with bioavailability actually help.
Chill dude was sarcasm that post.I'm not claiming one -epi is better then the other but that the added ingredients that help with bioavailability actually help.
Oh ok, I just didn't want to come across as "that guy" but I ended up being "that other guy" lolChill dude was sarcasm that post.
You have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .Oh ok, I just didn't want to come across as "that guy" but I ended up being "that other guy" lol
Honestly I don't fully understand placebo but generally speaking if you 100% think something will happen if you take/do something it should happen.You have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .
Also, is there any place that sells this "placebo" you speak about in bulk? I wanna get mad gainz brosYou have a good point either way both of you post some links if u have them id love to read about this magic placebo .
Walmart tampon isle next to the midol .Also, is there any place that sells this "placebo" you speak about in bulk? I wanna get mad gainz bros
Now should I take that on an empty stomach or with a meal ; )Walmart tampon isle next to the midol .
I think what you speak of is Force Factor, I heard the rock took it and and look at him now!Also, is there any place that sells this "placebo" you speak about in bulk? I wanna get mad gainz bros
You gotta open all the caps put em in a turkey baster then each day u put 2 grams into a troll cup with troll tea amd stir with a troll spoon haaNow should I take that on an empty stomach or with a meal ; )
Thanks man...almost bought some Muscle Tech instead haha. I heard 15lbs in one month.I think what you speak of is Force Factor, I heard the rock took it and and look at him now!
As a LGD product I really think it was under dosed or non existent. I did gain 8lbs on it in 2 months but I went to 16mgs of LGD and it didn't feel like LGD. I think the combo of -epi, laxo, and andro throws the user off into thinking its the LGD but I know gainz would have been way better. I had better results from 8mgs of PNs LGD.http ://phwsupplements.com/srm-epicatechin-lgd-4033-by-xcel-sports-nutrition/ best one out by far
Well if the compete for receptors its pointless but the lgd 4033 has solid reviews . Ive seen some people who didnt feel it but that happens with everything.As a LGD product I really think it was under dosed or non existent. I did gain 8lbs on it in 2 months but I went to 16mgs of LGD and it didn't feel like LGD. I think the combo of -epi, laxo, and andro throws the user off into thinking its the LGD but I know gainz would have been way better. I had better results from 8mgs of PNs LGD.