I agree with nubioso. For your purposes, Cardarine is you best bet for sure!
I heard cardarine has some large side effects though and has not been tested much.
I think the most common thing heard is it caused cancer in mice. What they don't mention is that the dose given to the mice would be equivalent of you taking 100x the normal dose, so take that with a grain of salt.
Try not much more than what people abusing the compound take, seeing as the dosage given to the mice equates to ~67mg for humans.
All of these are great for endurance.
What dose did you use, and how did you measure endurance?
Wrong. The only dose ever to show any benefit was 5mg/kg in mice. 5mg/kg MOUSE x 3 (KM Factor Mouse) / 37 (KM Factor Human) = HED of ~0.40mg/kg. A 180lb man would need to take ~33mg to replicate the only mouse study that showed endurance improvement.
You can "serial load" it with good effect (don't know if that's in your link, but it's on the SuppV site for sure). Just mix up the full dose but sip it through out the day. It's a bit of a hassle though - but instead of ~$30+ a month, it's like $15 a year - with a boatload of science in athletes
The osmotic diarrhea from a full dose (20-30g'ish) is no joke though - ~45min after you will be a fire-hose. The upside is if you ever want to weigh yourself with as little water in your body as possible... 
Agreed. Just supplementing in Peak O2 or Beta Alanine would be a great endurance booster.
Thanks for the link. Okay, so not 100x, but I still don't take 40mg. I take 10....so with it still being 400% increase over what you'd normally give yourself, I'd say that'd skew the results. So "wrong" only on the basis of taking my quote of 100x literally.
Ephedrine causes a flight or fight response with the chemical noradrenaline . It increases energy temporarily
You're micro-dosing it, why do you think it does anything at that amount, if it works in humans at all?
I do like my FD2 though as well...:yup:
Weird...I guess my post didn't go through? Anywho....why are you so convinced it doesn't work? They are currently doing testing of microdosing LSD for depression and the like, so what's wrong with microdosing?
LSD and a PPAR drug are not the same thing. Please don't try micro-dosing your next bottle of antibiotics. I'm not convinced it doesn't work - I'm convinced that the research scientists who did the one and only performance study on it, settled on 5mg/kg Mouse for a reason. But hey, maybe it's the first drug in history where a human can use 25% of what a Mouse needed? Did you keep Time Trial data for before 10mg/day GW use, and then during?
You just like to be the nay saying type don't you? No kidding they aren't the same thing, neither is a mouse and a human lol. The point is, you're using a blanket statement of "You're microdosing" as if that's some valid argument for it not working. Who says 10mg shouldn't be a standard dose? It's one study where they decided to give X amount. It's new, so therefore there is no standard.
No, I just prefer science over bro-science. There is a thing called "minimum effective dose", "therapeutic dose", "dose-response relationship" and a whole bunch of other clinical pharmacology terms that apply. There is plenty of data on Caffeine at doses even lower than 100mg, so that isn't micro-dosing - 1mg would be though.
But anyway, cool man, "you could feel it". I'm actually glad you didn't use 0.40mg/kg believe it or not.
Well to be fair you are spitting bro-science calling the dosage "micro". Since we don't have an effective human dosage your statements are also purely speculative in nature. Mice dosage converted to human isn't always black and white, take Clenbuterol for example. This is especially true in this instance when it comes to mice vs humans PPARs
I have never seen any reports of somebody not responding with an increase in endurance. Users are usually more than impressed with that benefit.
I pulled "Micro-Dosing" from the "Run, Swim, Cheat" blog posts on GW - fair enough that the technical term doesn't apply here, you are correct:
How about "Less than shown effective in animal study dose"? There will never be any human data on 501516.
User StanleyG had this to say, he also apparently either Cycled (Bikes) or did a lot of research on cycling forums before using it:
Then there's the "Dianabol" placebo study - which is why having research when swallowed by people is waaaaay better.
Thanks for sharing that as I have never seen reports of such poor experiences. Honestly, he seems to be overly biased though, and obtaining a legit source is always key.
I get the sense this will never happen given your concerns with the cancer studies, but you can’t knock a product until you try it for yourself. I think you would love it!
Those are my three as well. I have recently switched non stim pre workouts and the one I am using has both CM and BA. I add a little more BA to get 3 grams. My first couple of workouts with it, my intra set recovery time has decreased a lot. I do not need to rest nearly as long and I do not feel the lactic acid building up as much as I normally would. I also really enjoy PeakO2. Grab some Xtend Perform to see it in action!
I remember it used to be a big thing but died off. Don't know why
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