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Best cortisol blocker?

Which is the best cortisol blocker?

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During PCT w/ a SERM use:

DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
 
I agree with DatBeTrue, however, some don't like to use DHEA in PCT for certain reasons being debated. I would say if you have the money, go for Retain 2, but doubled dosed would be best. It's underdosed. Yeah. It is.

If you want awesome recomp, cortisol control, and elevated fatloss, go for 7-Cort (8oz size) by Dermabolics and use 5 sprays in the morning and 5 sprays at night transdermally. It's about 35 bucks for a month. It's awesome.
 
Force of Green said:
If you want awesome recomp, cortisol control, and elevated fatloss, go for 7-Cort (8oz size) by Dermabolics and use 5 sprays in the morning and 5 sprays at night transdermally. It's about 35 bucks for a month. It's awesome.
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Thanks for bringing this up. I was wondering about 7-Cort...I've been back and forth on it and finally decided to add some to my shopping cart the other night. So I'll give it a go.

Now that I see you recommend it I'm sure it will be a great product for my nonhormonal recomp.
 
datBtrue said:
Thanks for bringing this up. I was wondering about 7-Cort...I've been back and forth on it and finally decided to add some to my shopping cart the other night. So I'll give it a go.

Now that I see you recommend it I'm sure it will be a great product for my nonhormonal recomp.
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I also just picked some up. Did you see the product they have called metacort? It has 6 oxo and 7 oxo. I think I may give it a try sometime.
 
Retain 2 - liked Retain, but love R2
 
datBtrue said:
During post cycle therapy w/ a SERM use:

DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
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I agree here, but I also believe Retain 2 is a good product form experience. I definitely noticed stronger effects when I upped the dose. (so Forceofgreen you are right about that)...Id like to here more about the 7-cort's effectiveness.
 
Using Lean Xtreme right now on cycle, no problems with it, I take it as directed and feel a bit tighter than I did before starting. I like the fact of the 7-OH it has.
 
i used retain 2 last PCT and I sort of feel like i had a rebound from it. I think I may go with lean extreme this time...or just mega dose Vitc and use some ralora and maybe 7-OH
 
I'm trying Restore myself, along with PCS as I wrote in another thread. I'm expecting it to do just what I need it to do, and this combo is not too expensive at all.
 
I like Retain2, however does anyone know of a good-strong cort blocker that doesn't include DHEA in it?
 
I'll go for a combination of Lean Xtreme, Relora, and Ashwagandha.
 
datBtrue said:
During PCT w/ a SERM use:

DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
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Expensive??? when was the last time you looked up the price on X-Lean?

Ive seen it as low as 20 bucks before. That is a STEAL for what it is, I think that its very underrated, mostly cause many havnt tried it and stick to AX's and DS's. IBE put alot of research into it and it will provide you with more then just cortisol blocking. It can actually increase the strength of you immune system on multiple levels... and just think we are working on an improved version as we speak :hammer:
 
poopypants said:
Expensive??? when was the last time you looked up the price on X-Lean?

Ive seen it as low as 20 bucks before. That is a STEAL for what it is, I think that its very underrated, mostly cause many havnt tried it and stick to AX's and DS's. IBE put alot of research into it and it will provide you with more then just cortisol blocking. It can actually increase the strength of you immune system on multiple levels... and just think we are working on an improved version as we speak :hammer:
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X-Lean is a good product for keeping cortisol levels at bay during intense exercise. If you megadose it, you can sit around and do nothing and lose fat.
 
DS LX caused a major decrease in appetite for me, which is good because I'm cutting, and an indicator that my cortisol has been lowered.

My favorite.
 
you can get relacore for 16 bucks and it has dhea in it. So it controls cortisol and converts to test. :numbered:
 
7-keto actually is suppressive, despite what most manufactures claim. Its not really desirable for PCT.

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-Pp
 
How should Lean Extreme be tapered, i was gonna do 4 pills a day for the first two weeks......3 pills a day for the third week......and 2 pills a day for the fourth week........sound alright?
 
spartanking62 said:
would 11 oxo be good for controlling cortisol in pct
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I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

-Pp
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At VERY low doses, I would venture a guess that it would be ok (2-3 caps spread out), but nothing more.

I can use Endoamp from day one of PCT, right?
 
Force of Green said:
At VERY low doses, I would venture a guess that it would be ok (2-3 caps spread out), but nothing more.

I can use Endoamp from day one of PCT, right?
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Yep, EndoAmp is totally acceptable for PCT.

It’s hard to say on the 11-oxo… it definitely needs more human research.

-Pp
 
EasyEJL said:
how bout phosphatatidyl serine?
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ive had good results with it. the problem w blocking cort is the rebound you get after. im pretty sure the phosphatatidyl and cissus keeps the cort from binding but doesnt actually block it from the adrenals. thats what i found from trying to research it but correct me if im wrong. i know personally that i got serious rebound from 7-oxo-dhea
 
ropehead said:
ive had good results with it. the problem w blocking cort is the rebound you get after. im pretty sure the phosphatatidyl and cissus keeps the cort from binding but doesnt actually block it from the adrenals. thats what i found from trying to research it but correct me if im wrong. i know personally that i got serious rebound from 7-oxo-dhea
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Phosphatidylserine (PS) helps prevent the release of cortisol from the adrenals.

Think of PS as having a nourishing action, rather than a pharmacological action. Its supportive of the body’s natural processes, not suppressive. For instance, you don’t need more and more to have the same effect. As you take PS, you can actually supplement with less and less once your “PS stores” are full.

Rebound is likely with something hormonal and suppressive like 7-keto DHEA.


-Pp
 
Im doin a Halodrol cycle, 75/75/100/100/100, my PCT is
Nolva, 6OXO, Blue Up and Milk Thistle, any opinions?
---Im just curious about cortisol and all
 
KgTomCat said:
Im doin a Halodrol cycle, 75/75/100/100/100, my PCT is
Nolva, 6OXO, Blue Up and Milk Thistle, any opinions?
---Im just curious about cortisol and all
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from what i've been reading, a cort regulatoris wise to maximize your gains. To me, i figure if you spend the time and money planning a cycle, have a kick ass PCT to keep all the gains you spent time researching for and working hard for :).

How far are you into your Halodrol cycle? I just started my third week and I'm tempted to bump it to 100. You using H-Drol or Hemadrol? If you're into your third week, you doing good as far as sides, gains etc?
 
eballarj said:
from what i've been reading, a cort regulatoris wise to maximize your gains. To me, i figure if you spend the time and money planning a cycle, have a kick ass PCT to keep all the gains you spent time researching for and working hard for :).

How far are you into your Halodrol cycle? I just started my third week and I'm tempted to bump it to 100. You using H-Drol or Hemadrol? If you're into your third week, you doing good as far as sides, gains etc?
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I just bumped it up to 100 last night. Im tryin to get a solid PCT so I keep all my gains. Here ya go...
In the 3rd week of 5, using CEL Halodrol, no sides at all, a lil aggression, but libido is fine, I dont think I have shutdown but maybe. No hair loss, acne...but gains so far is ALOT of strength, about 8-10 pounds so hopefully these next 3 weeks will be good!:bb2:
 
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