Best Anti- E supplement

lboston

lboston

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Haven't posted on here in quite some time, and I'm a bit out of touch with the latest in the supplement market.

Is Erase still pretty much the standard when it comes to anti- E products?

On TRT and looking for something OTC. Arimidex and I do not get along well...
 
Please don't use Erase to replace Arimidex. The best current product OTC is Iron Legion Virtus. It is a transdermal and works very well. If you decide to use this product I would keep the Arimidex on hand. In my experience Virtus is very strong but since you are on trt let's not take chances. Do some research and if you decide to use the above product I'll be happy to give some help with dosing.
 
May have to check it out . My go to was Black Lion Research's Formeron, but they don't make it any more.

Adex , even at ..25mg twice per week tanks my E2.

What the doing on that stuff, how long does it last you, etc?
 
In my experience it is stronger than Formestane and I've many times had to drop the dose because of joint issues. I personally may never have to go above .5 ML and at that dose a bottle should last 60 days. But dose will depend on you and how much of a trt dose you are running.
 
3pic_B3ast said:
In my experience it is stronger than Formestane and I've many times had to drop the dose because of joint issues. I personally may never have to go above .5 ML and at that dose a bottle should last 60 days. But dose will depend on you and how much of a trt dose you are running.
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When I was taking Formeron , I would only use it twice per week- right after by TRT shots. It really seemed to do the trick. May have to give this stuff a go.

I've tried both arimidex and aromasin, and both, for whatever reason, just make me feel rough.

I've never had any problems with topicals.

I am curious though, did they stop making the original PES Erase? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
 
I would look at inhibit E. Cost effective and works great. Also is easily stacked with other oncycle and post cycle supps.
 
lboston said:
I am curious though, did they stop making the original PES Erase? Can't seem to find that anywhere.
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Original Erase is no longer available. Although the main ingredient Arimistane is readily available. But I would not use it to counter elevated estrogen due to trt.
 
Here's a link to bloodwork for someone running Virtus at half dose with their TRT:
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Not to necessarily knock products like Virtus or Erase or Inhibit-E but if you're using AAS (even at TRT doses) you really should get a pharma support, not OTC. The body is resilient, but why cut corners?
 
Rhadam said:
Not to necessarily knock products like Virtus or Erase or Inhibit-E but if you're using AAS (even at TRT doses) you really should get a pharma support, not OTC. The body is resilient, but why cut corners?
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I think my concern with the pharma grade is just the potential liver implications. I had liver cancer, and I worry about having to breakdown any oral compounds like adex or aromasin.
 
Have not tried Virtus yet. My favorite natural product for estrogen control is Myokem Alphadex.

After these rave reviews though...I am thinking I may have to!
 
Please don't lump Virtus in with other OTC products (at least the ones listed). It is on another level. If you haven't tried it you may want to. I would never suggest something other than pharma for trt unless it was legit.
 
3pic_B3ast said:
Please don't lump Virtus in with other OTC products (at least the ones listed). It is on another level. If you haven't tried it you may want to. I would never suggest something other than pharma for trt unless it was legit.
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I find this comment to be ridiculously funny in a very sad way.
 
Rhadam said:
I find this comment to be ridiculously funny in a very sad way.
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it's really not difficult to manage e2 levels on TRT. The majority don't even need an AI once they get their protocol down. Letrone for example is plenty for most on TRT.
 
Rhadam said:
I find this comment to be ridiculously funny in a very sad way.
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Have you done any reading on the flavan used in Virtus?
 
IronLegion said:
I've received many emails and PM's about the next Iron Legion Product...It's nearly here!

Virtus Transdermal Launches In March!
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The main ingredient in Virtus is 7-hydroxy-4-imidazolyl-flavan: The strongest Supplement AI Ever!
  • Studdies suggest extreme AI potency: IC50 = 41nM at human placental aromatase
  • Roughly 127 times more potent than aminogluthemide
  • Up to 12 times more potent than alpha-naphthoflavone (7,8-benzoflavone)
  • Up to 10 times more potent than Formestane

Virtus will be a powerful AI for all purposes: Testosterone booster, lean muscle gains, reduce water retention, on cycle estrogen control, and PCT.

Reference:
[1]Pouget C, ***nere C, Basly JP, Habrioux G, Chulia AJ. Design, synthesis and evaluation of 4-imidazolylflavans as new leads for aromatase inhibition. Bioorg Med Chem Lett. 2002;12(20):2859-61
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According to IC50 values the flavan in Virtus is only a 2.2 fold less active than Letrozole

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Rhadam said:
Then get Aromasin.
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This over OTC AIs. Unless you just need a little estrogen suppression then an OTC product should be OK.
 
lboston said:
Haven't posted on here in quite some time, and I'm a bit out of touch with the latest in the supplement market.

Is Erase still pretty much the standard when it comes to anti- E products?

On TRT and looking for something OTC. Arimidex and I do not get along well...
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I used Inhibit-E during my TRT cruises next to Inhibit-P. Blood work was just peachy and lipids didn't get totally destroyed. E2 was a touch higher than when using adex but if you're not SUPER estrogen prone, I wouldn't sweat it. That's in a 200mg TRT dose also
 
Distilled Water said:
I used Inhibit-E during my TRT cruises next to Inhibit-P. Blood work was just peachy and lipids didn't get totally destroyed. E2 was a touch higher than when using adex but if you're not SUPER estrogen prone, I wouldn't sweat it. That's in a 200mg TRT dose also
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Awesome. Love seeing people get blood work to see if OTC products are working.
 
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