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Beginner in need of advice..

ntrain

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Im 6'2 and 247 pounds.. I would love to drop down to 230 235 and still retain my rep max... I was just wondering what would be good to start off with...
 
a good diet and training program is all u need. IMO steroids should be used for bulking purposes only ...whether it be a "clean" or "dirty" bulk.
 
I just started a diet and I play college football... Our strength coach is dead on... I want something for after season to trim down and then bulk up
 
nosnmiveins said:
a good diet and training program is all u need. IMO steroids should be used for bulking purposes only ...whether it be a "clean" or "dirty" bulk.
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i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.
 
mooch2321 said:
i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.
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I AGREE WITH MOOCH,A GOOD CUTTER WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA!
 
mooch2321 said:
i have to disagree with this statement nos. aas is a great way to retain muscle while at a caloric deficiency.
(to the op)while im not recomending that u do this, for an experienced bb'er the tren/win/prop cycle is a phenomenal cutter.
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i dont suggest that for a first timer. i would have agreed with u if this wasnt his first, but his key goal needs to be diet to lose weight...not use steroids
 
with that he would certainly cut hardcore, then grow some boobs to use as extra padding on the field...
 
nosnmiveins said:
i dont suggest that for a first timer. i would have agreed with u if this wasnt his first, but his key goal needs to be diet to lose weight...not use steroids
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nos i respect ur take on this, but a first cycle does not always have to be a test enanthate 12 week bulk. i am not recomending that the op use steroids, but if hes done his homework and is not morbidly obese then a good prop/winn cut may be exactly what the doctor ordered. i would leave the tren out till yuor second time around tho.
 
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