Bassgod's Mass Xxxplosion Cycle!!

bassgod272 said:
Hm, and how did you run the 6-OXO since you started it in the 3rd week? You think i'd be straight with Tamox and DTH as planned? I am just deathly afraid of the delayed gyno everyone seems to b getting. I know it's possible with ANY ph or aas, however it seems to be reported much more with superdrol. Super does not aromatize. It also inhibits prolactin. So either a prolactin or estro rebound causes the delayed gyno. Some people ran poor PCT's, others did proper PCT with the inverse taper but did not taper the AI's dose back down AFTER PCT, and others ran simpy ATD. MOST cases that i've seen had ATD involved whether it was ran standalone or alongside a SERM. Also, most people go way overboard with PCT these days which causes most of their problems. I'm trying to keep it old school and simple. Things seem to have went perfectly fine back in the day.
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I too agree with this thinking and honestly atd scares me! I think that it has played a large roll in the "delayed gyno" users report from super because, I too have seen the most reports from people complaining of gyno (and rightfully so) who incorporated ATD into there pct. Maybe it's just to strong, I don't know. But I would personally feel much safer running a test-booster with a mild AI in it (such as DTHC) or maybe even running something like DIM or Formastane at a moderate dose throughout or after the nolva was discontinued.
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
I too agree with this thinking and honestly atd scares me! I think that it has played a large roll in the "delayed gyno" users report from super because, I too have seen the most reports from people complaining of gyno (and rightfully so) who incorporated ATD into there pct. Maybe it's just to strong, I don't know. But I would personally feel much safer running a test-booster with a mild AI in it (such as DTHC) or maybe even running something like DIM or Formastane at a moderate dose throughout or after the nolva was discontinued.
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Exactly.... screw atd I actually ran form during cycle and halfway through pct...great stuff!
 
boxmeman said:
I started running 6OXO the 3rd week of PCT....
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LOL, I know this. I mean at what doses did you start at during week 3 and how long after that week did you continue to use it? Also what were your doses those following weeks? Did you taper it down like you did the form?
 
pantera101 said:
Did he have on that bad a$$ wife beater with his topless daughter?

Also,I was wondering if taurine should be preloaded like others.Or is it pretty much instant?
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He was wearing a wife beater, however I didn't see any topless daughter, lol. Although that would've been sweet. Taurine is pretty much instant. Buy some bananas too. Taurine + Potassium = Little to No back pumps :)
 
bassgod272 said:
He was wearing a wife beater, however I didn't see any topless daughter, lol. Although that would've been sweet. Taurine is pretty much instant. Buy some bananas too. Taurine + Potassium = Little to No back pumps :)
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It would be sweet if she grew up,and got hot.I got cramps in my tear drops so many hours after a leg wo.I would have to go to my knees to get rid of them.I went to church with my parents on christmas eve,although i limped in cause they kicked in when i got out of the car,once i was inside i felt completely normal down on my knees.They were the most intense cramps i ever had,and they would not go away untill i went to my knees.It took me a couple minutes to figure this out the first time.They looked like they belonged to branch or tom.
 
Oh just to let everyone know... I have a precomp cut log coming up in about 3-4 days so be prepared to sub... its gonna be hot, Im not releasing what im running yet!
 
boxmeman said:
Oh just to let everyone know... I have a precomp cut log coming up in about 3-4 days so be prepared to sub... its gonna be hot, Im not releasing what im running yet!
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Nice hijack box lol... D@mn it bro now what if someone else gets there before I do Hu?? I had first dibs on that Sht fair and square!!!!!:hammer:
 
Day 4: Arms

Applied my Napalm/Clen mix this morning after a shower. Had an AWESOME pump today!! M-TST is better than N.O. products in that department. My arms felt like they were going to explooode! I made the mistake of doing bi's before tri's. When I did overhead db extensions, I could barely bring my arms behind my head because they were so damn pumped. I also got 2 extra reps with each arm on standing across chest hammer curls. I found this odd, but I did not get any extra reps on seated db curls :think: I switched up my routine with standing 2 arm cable curls rather than concentration curls. Did 70x6 for 3 sets. Again I felt very strong today. Can't wait to bump the P-Plex to 30mg this Friday and really start to see the Phera do its thang around week 2.
 
That is awesome brotha!! Got to love that pump, seriously though are you using anything for stretch marks because as gay as that sounds bro you put on 20-30lbs it's very much a reality.
This cycle is just gonna be rediculis by next week man, hope your ready to do some clothes shopping! Ha,ha your gonna need bigger threads to cover up all your stretch mark lol....I'm afraid you are well on your way to full blown FREEEAAAKK HOOD Bass!!! Keep it up pimp!!
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
That is awesome brotha!! Got to love that pump, seriously though are you using anything for stretch marks because as gay as that sounds bro you put on 20-30lbs it's very much a reality.
This cycle is just gonna be rediculis by next week man, hope your ready to do some clothes shopping! Ha,ha your gonna need bigger threads to cover up all your stretch mark lol....I'm afraid you are well on your way to full blown FREEEAAAKK HOOD Bass!!! Keep it up pimp!!
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Thanks for th encouragement bro:drunk: Nah, don't have anything for sretch marks, but I am using Java Soap to help combat bacne and acne. I can't efin wait until the middle to end of next week!! Strength is already on the rise from the TST alone. Every workout i'm getting an extra rep or 2 here and there. Speaking of being a pimp, lol. My libido is pretty decent at the moment. I feel like a hunter on the prowel, haha. I'm hoping the TST keeps my libido like this and it doesn't take a dive later on. I've had random wood 3 times today already and it's only 9:30! LOL. Def no sign of suppression as of yet.
 
Your Bro Eternal The Thundergod-- Late, but subbed!! I'm watching this like a hawk now my friend. Any questions or worries, you give a shout-out to your friendly, local neighborhood Thunder-Diety!:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Your Bro Eternal The Thundergod-- Late, but subbed!! I'm watching this like a hawk now my friend. Any questions or worries, you give a shout-out to your friendly, local neighborhood Thunder-Diety!:hammer:
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Bout time!!! LOL jk man. Glad you're here to enjoy the fun.
Next week is where it's going to start to get interesting. :clean:
 
bassgod272 said:
Hm, and how did you run the 6-OXO since you started it in the 3rd week? You think i'd be straight with Tamox and DTH as planned? I am just deathly afraid of the delayed gyno everyone seems to b getting. I know it's possible with ANY ph or aas, however it seems to be reported much more with superdrol. Super does not aromatize. It also inhibits prolactin. So either a prolactin or estro rebound causes the delayed gyno. Some people ran poor PCT's, others did proper PCT with the inverse taper but did not taper the AI's dose back down AFTER PCT, and others ran simpy ATD. MOST cases that i've seen had ATD involved whether it was ran standalone or alongside a SERM. Also, most people go way overboard with PCT these days which causes most of their problems. I'm trying to keep it old school and simple. Things seem to have went perfectly fine back in the day.
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Hey Bro-- Not "everyone" is getting gyno! I'd say probably only 1 or 2% are. And there's probably other issues involved like genetic history and maybe even poor dietary habits. I told you not to fall prey to "placebo sides"!! Don't start playing with your nipples until they're sore and go, "uh-oh--it's gyno starting". You have ALL bases covered like nobody I've ever seen. I stll believe the transdermal formestane is ALL you need IMHO!! The SERM is a great idea but at low doses like you're planning. Just relax and have a wonderful time on this cycle Bro. It's well-thought out and pre-planned. I'm subbed all the way my Brother. The Thundergod:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Hey Bro-- Not "everyone" is getting gyno! I'd say probably only 1 or 2% are. And there's probably other issues involved like genetic history and maybe even poor dietary habits. I told you not to fall prey to "placebo sides"!! Don't start playing with your nipples until they're sore and go, "uh-oh--it's gyno starting". You have ALL bases covered like nobody I've ever seen. I stll believe the transdermal formestane is ALL you need IMHO!! The SERM is a great idea but at low doses like you're planning. Just relax and have a wonderful time on this cycle Bro. It's well-thought out and pre-planned. I'm subbed all the way my Brother. The Thundergod:hammer:
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LOL, don't wory bro. I'm not touching my nips, nor will I ever start. I'm not going to fall prey to placebo sides as i'm much smarter than that. If I DO get itchy/sensitive nips, I WILL NOT start PCT. I will increase my dose of either form or p-5-p if needed. Depending on whether it's due to estro or prolactin. I don't intend on having any gyno issues with this cycle because like you stated, I have a very well thought out plan. However, I AM gyno prone as I had it surgically removed when I was a teenager. I don't know if the glands were removed altogether or if just the tissue was sucked out. I am like 95% sure the tissue was sucked out because they made a small incision underneath each of my arm pits. Seems like a gland would be too big to use that method. When I flex my pecs, the outside part underneath my arm pit DENTS IN like the gland has ben removed. The nip itself also dents in but more so on the left side than the right. Nip doesn't really dent in on the right side. This is cuz i'm right handed i'm assuming. Built up muscle quicker there. Again, they look perfectly normal until I flex. So who knows, maybe the gland was taken out. Either way, i'll be fine and im gonna blow upppp! Oh and i'm up 3.5lbs btw. It's probably just the extra food i've been consuming. Phera makes me hungry :)
 
Just applied my 2nd dose of the Napalm/Clen mix. 3 pumps to the upper and lower abs. I used some of the clen orally and I will NEVER use it that way again. I couldn't sleep at all and my heart was out of control. I have an irregular heartbeat, so that's no bueno. I'm actually not even supposed to drink caffeine because of it, but eh, it hasn't gotten ANY worse than when the doc first said I had it. I've done PLENTY of WAYYYY worse things than just normal stims like caffeine, etc in the past. So i'll be in the clear. The clen transdermally in avant labs' carrier is awesome. Localized fat burning effects with no sides :) Also, bacne has started already. :rasp: My java soap better help with that!
 
Your runnin clen too?? AHHHH ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!! God I'm so jealous right now, I hate your face!!!JK bro, haha not like I have the bolts to run all that sht in a cycle anyways. I was jealous before but I was like, ah he's gonna get HUUUGGE but he'll be all bloated and sht but now your gonna get all HUUUGGEE and be RIPPED too what the F!!
Well I hope you out grow all of your clothes and have to buy all new ones and everyone calls you a freak by the time your done with this cycle:rasp::rofl: Now what bro LMFAO.........You da man!! Period!!! Repetitions for ju.lol...
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
Your runnin clen too?? AHHHH ANIMAL!!!!!!!!!!! God I'm so jealous right now, I hate your face!!!JK bro, haha not like I have the bolts to run all that sht in a cycle anyways. I was jealous before but I was like, ah he's gonna get HUUUGGE but he'll be all bloated and sht but now your gonna get all HUUUGGEE and be RIPPED too what the F!!
Well I hope you out grow all of your clothes and have to buy all new ones and everyone calls you a freak by the time your done with this cycle:rasp::rofl: Now what bro LMFAO.........You da man!! Period!!! Repetitions for ju.lol...
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LOL, I hope I out grow all of my clothes too! I would take freak as a comment, lol. I'm hoping that people who see me everyday will notice the size difference as time goes on during this cycle. Most don't want that, but I do because it would mean that i'm blowing up!! I'll just say that my natty test booster and high calorie and protein diet are really paying off :) I actually already get called a freak by my co-workers in the pharmacy because of how much I eat in a day. Ahhh, they will just never understand tsk tsk. I showed a pharmacist from Phoenix my nature's pure ion exchange protein drink and he's like 40g!?? That's enough protein for a whole day!! HAHAAH! I laughed hysterically! People keep telling me i'm going to get sick from all the protein that I consume. What naive little people they are.
 
bassgod272 said:
LOL, don't wory bro. I'm not touching my nips, nor will I ever start. I'm not going to fall prey to placebo sides as i'm much smarter than that. If I DO get itchy/sensitive nips, I WILL NOT start PCT. I will increase my dose of either form or p-5-p if needed. Depending on whether it's due to estro or prolactin. I don't intend on having any gyno issues with this cycle because like you stated, I have a very well thought out plan. However, I AM gyno prone as I had it surgically removed when I was a teenager. I don't know if the glands were removed altogether or if just the tissue was sucked out. I am like 95% sure the tissue was sucked out because they made a small incision underneath each of my arm pits. Seems like a gland would be too big to use that method. When I flex my pecs, the outside part underneath my arm pit DENTS IN like the gland has ben removed. The nip itself also dents in but more so on the left side than the right. Nip doesn't really dent in on the right side. This is cuz i'm right handed i'm assuming. Built up muscle quicker there. Again, they look perfectly normal until I flex. So who knows, maybe the gland was taken out. Either way, i'll be fine and im gonna blow upppp! Oh and i'm up 3.5lbs btw. It's probably just the extra food i've been consuming. Phera makes me hungry :)
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I know you're smarter than to fall prey to "placebo sides'. Don't you like that term though? I came up with it! I see it all the time too. Everybody's getting gyno, everybody's lactating, everyone's tired as hell from all the lethargy! Give me a break. The real sides you have to watch for on phera or super are blood lipids (which you won't know without bloodwork) and blood pressure, which you should check regularly anyway. Just trying to be helpful my friend. I know for sure that you're one really smart cat Bassgod. Now go for it and get SWOLE!!!:bb3:
 
bassgod272 said:
I actually already get called a freak by my co-workers in the pharmacy because of how much I eat in a day. Ahhh, they will just never understand tsk tsk. I showed a pharmacist from Phoenix my nature's pure ion exchange protein drink and he's like 40g!?? That's enough protein for a whole day!! HAHAAH! I laughed hysterically! People keep telling me i'm going to get sick from all the protein that I consume. What naive little people they are.
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I get the same **** from Doctors & Nurses. One of them was looking at my bulk supercissus and when they saw Anabolic Directions on the package they said "Oh...that's steroids!" They've also said the same about my protein powder & creatine. lol I had an argument with one Doc in which he stated that 30 reps was the best for building muscle. He was very adamant about it while he sat there sporting his one pack and 10-inch pythons. lol
 
FOOFAC said:
I get the same **** from Doctors & Nurses. One of them was looking at my bulk supercissus and when they saw Anabolic Directions on the package they said "Oh...that's steroids!" They've also said the same about my protein powder & creatine. lol I had an argument with one Doc in which he stated that 30 reps was the best for building muscle. He was very adamant about it while he sat there sporting his one pack and 10-inch pythons. lol
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It continues to amaze me how completely ignorant doctors are when it comes to steroids and general supplementation.
 
TerribleTowel said:
It continues to amaze me how completely ignorant doctors are when it comes to steroids and general supplementation.
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Agreed! I know of people who had complications while on-cycle and they went to their regular practitioner (who doesn't know squat about anabolics) and they pulled them off of their cycle cold turkey. No PCT or nothing. And people wonder where gyno comes in?:think: By the way "terrible-towel" I absolutely love the Steelers!! My fave team since I was like 10 years old!!:head:
 
FOOFAC said:
I get the same **** from Doctors & Nurses. One of them was looking at my bulk supercissus and when they saw Anabolic Directions on the package they said "Oh...that's steroids!" They've also said the same about my protein powder & creatine. lol I had an argument with one Doc in which he stated that 30 reps was the best for building muscle. He was very adamant about it while he sat there sporting his one pack and 10-inch pythons. lol
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30 reps IS the best for muscle growth. EVERYBODY knows that!! :rofl:
 
No kidding man Doc's are unbelivebly clueless when it comes to anything having to do with deit or exercise. They just go by the FDA standards for daily caloric intake, which for a grown man I believe weighing 150lbs is 50gms of protein a day lol.....I think the people on Survivor are the only mofos getting that little, seriously a burger has 50gm easy in it!! Ah, I guess it's not there fault physicians just go by the book but god they need to up date that Fing book!!!!!!!
SideNote:I like to do 30 sets of 30 reps that's the mostest bestest for muscle hypertrophy just FYI I don't what to leave you guys out of the loop or anything.lol.....
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
No kidding man Doc's are unbelivebly clueless when it comes to anything having to do with deit or exercise. They just go by the FDA standards for daily caloric intake, which for a grown man I believe weighing 150lbs is 50gms of protein a day lol.....I think the people on Survivor are the only mofos getting that little, seriously a burger has 50gm easy in it!! Ah, I guess it's not there fault physicians just go by the book but god they need to up date that Fing book!!!!!!!
SideNote:I like to do 30 sets of 30 reps that's the mostest bestest for muscle hypertrophy just FYI I don't what to leave you guys out of the loop or anything.lol.....
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Thanks for the heads up buddy. Maybe i'll switch my routine to this for the remainder of my cycle :)
 
Day 5 OFF

I had planned on doing back today, but have a conflicting schedule, so I will do it tomorrow after work. Applied 3 pumps of the Napalm/Clen and took 15mg P-Plex a little while ago. Anyone think it'd be pointless to up it to 30mg now, rather than wait until Friday? Also, even this early in the cycle I have noticed 2 sides; Acne and hunger. Hunger is a plus, i've been eating more than usual the past few days. It could be cuz my body is telling me to GROW. I'm not sure. The acne sucks though. It's not bad or anything, just mild. I've had that issue my whole life tho, so it's nothing to worry about yet. Dosing 10g of B5 to try to combat this, along with Java soap.
 
Well bass you've got a long road ahead of you still on this cycle so I would hold off till friday personaly, plus if you jump it up to fast and start seeing sides you might have to take it back down, so I would wait. IMO friday will be here before you know it anyways brotha:thumbsup:
 
Plus your already feeling the positive effects of the P-Plex so I don't see a need to bump it early either. If you weren't getting anything at your current dose I would say go for it, but since you are I'd just stick to your original plan.
 
Bassgod--- I remember hearing somewhere that " a man without a plan is NOT a man". Brother, if that is so, then you ARE the man. You have diligently planned this cycle to the nth degree. Don't deviate now. Unless something really bad happens (and it won't), don't deter from the path my Brother! Stay the course as G.W. Bush would say!! It's just going to get better from here on in.:thumbsup:
 
Hate4TheWeak said:
Haha, Aw Na, you didn't just quote G.Dub lol....
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Sadly:sad: yeah, I quoted the dub! Only trying to get a point across though. I definately don't agree with the bastard that banned all our great gear of old. Damn that 2004 act!!:smite:
 
thundergod said:
Sadly:sad: yeah, I quoted the dub! Only trying to get a point across though. I definately don't agree with the bastard that banned all our great gear of old. Damn that 2004 act!!:smite:
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Certainly seems more likely for us to "Shock and Aw" the world
while eating m1t and 19-nor. That bas@rd!!!
 
TerribleTowel said:
Plus your already feeling the positive effects of the P-Plex so I don't see a need to bump it early either. If you weren't getting anything at your current dose I would say go for it, but since you are I'd just stick to your original plan.
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I'm not feeling anything from the p-plex bro. It's all from the m-tst. I'm sure of it. The pumps, aggression, strength. This is exactly why I added it into my cycle. Purely androgenic IMO. It's way too early to be the phera. None the less, i'll go with your guys' thoughts and wait til Friday. I'm just an eager beaver, LOL :)
 
bassgod272 said:
Day 4: Arms

Applied my Napalm/Clen mix this morning after a shower. Had an AWESOME pump today!! M-TST is better than N.O. products in that department. My arms felt like they were going to explooode! I made the mistake of doing bi's before tri's. When I did overhead db extensions, I could barely bring my arms behind my head because they were so damn pumped. I also got 2 extra reps with each arm on standing across chest hammer curls. I found this odd, but I did not get any extra reps on seated db curls :think: I switched up my routine with standing 2 arm cable curls rather than concentration curls. Did 70x6 for 3 sets. Again I felt very strong today. Can't wait to bump the P-Plex to 30mg this Friday and really start to see the Phera do its thang around week 2.
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during wk 2, ive noticed the pumps are not nearly as profound from the TST. Im interested to see if you notice this later
 
bassgod272 said:
I'm not feeling anything from the p-plex bro. It's all from the m-tst. I'm sure of it. The pumps, aggression, strength. This is exactly why I added it into my cycle. Purely androgenic IMO. It's way too early to be the phera. None the less, i'll go with your guys' thoughts and wait til Friday. I'm just an eager beaver, LOL :)
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Yea your right. That's what I get for posting with the state of mind I'm in now. No I'm not drunk or high, my mind is just blown from trying to cram in solid mechanics, dynamics, and differential equations all day for the last two days.

But keep up the good work bass. Next week is going to be awesome.
 
bassgod272 said:
I'm not feeling anything from the p-plex bro. It's all from the m-tst. I'm sure of it. The pumps, aggression, strength. This is exactly why I added it into my cycle. Purely androgenic IMO. It's way too early to be the phera. None the less, i'll go with your guys' thoughts and wait til Friday. I'm just an eager beaver, LOL :)
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Yes, just restrain yourself, big stallion!! But, I wouldn't swear that you're not "feeling" the effects of phera already. It is super-androgenic also. So together with the TST, the synergy is wunderbar!!! This ride is only gonna pick up speed as you go. The best is definately yet to come!! You'll find out why they named it "super"-drol!!! It's freaking uber dude!! :thumbsup:
 
Dude, who makes this M-TST (EST?) It sounds nice, I like maybe to try it too and get super buff time witz you da guys... :thumbsup:
 
T H E O R E M said:
during wk 2, ive noticed the pumps are not nearly as profound from the TST. Im interested to see if you notice this later
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Why do you have to ruin it for me!?!? LOL. We shall see on monday. That's my arms day. By then, i'll have also bumped the p-plex to 30 :)
 
pistonpump said:
how are you taking your B5? the stuff is nasty in powder form!
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It's weird bro, cuz it actually has a sugary kind of taste. I mean bad, but a little sweet. It says fully dissolvable in water, so rather than water I tried apple juice. HAHA! DEF doesn't work. It clumps up and I took out the clumps with a spoon and ate em. Pretty gross when they get stuck to the roof of your mouth. SO, now I cap it. It's about 600mg per cap without a tamping device. I have one, just don't use it. I have to take like 16 caps a day on top of all the other sh!t i'm currently taking to get the 10g dosage. It's a little under 10g but close enough for me. Either that or take 17 of em to equal 10.2g I'm not so sure t'sreally helping that much. I mean, it is, but it's not really clearing anything up and shrinking the pores like i've read about.
 
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