Baseball Thread 2009

MrBigPR said:
Zambrano is overrated.

Derosa is underrated. Cleveland will regret it. (2nd team to do so in the past year)
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Zambrano is a damn baby... I am just waiting for him to get plunked in the head. He hits players on purpose non stop. Then crys when the HR off of him. Brings a childlike light to the Cubs.

Cleveland always has a fire sale if they are not in contention. Getting rid of any player they can build around (Since they said their are in a building from within phase). Putting a AAA team on the field with no vets for guidance wont get you far. They needed the hard throwing Right Hander Perez that they got from us, but it doesnt really fill their glaring needs for the future.

Either way, i am happy! Just glad we gave up Perez instead of Motte. I think Motte has more upside to him, and much more moldable. Perez could throw the heat, but not with sure accuracy.

Adams
 
MrBigPR said:
Motte needs to develop his other pitches and be more confident....eh...larussa have more confidence.
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Agreed... he has developed nicely so far this season. Just need to see another pitch developed. Problem is, the middle of the season isn't the time to do it.

The glorious beard is gone though... guess it got to hot in STL! :D

Adams
 
Opinions...

I'm thinking of inserting Jake Fox into my lineup this week. 7 games against weak pitching teams, and he's slotted to DH or start at 3rd base the entire week. Hitting 400 over the last 8 games with a mess of RBIs and 2 dingers.

I'd have to sit one of the following:
Nolan Reimold
Chipper Jones
Nate McLouth

Couple others I could potentially sit, but too much upside (Fielder, Torii Hunter, Carlos Lee).

Opinions? Am I getting too creative here?
 
You might be over-analyzing. Sitting Chipper or McLouth would be risky, as they're both proven assets. I think McLouth is dealing with a tweaked hamstring though, so you may want to check on that before setting your lineup.
 
MrBigPR said:
You do weekly lineups?
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Yep. Head to Head.

JW32Hoops said:
You might be over-analyzing. Sitting Chipper or McLouth would be risky, as they're both proven assets. I think McLouth is dealing with a tweaked hamstring though, so you may want to check on that before setting your lineup.
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Yeah, McLouth is expected to start on Tuesday - but you know how Hammies can be.

Over-analyzing for sure...

Fox is batting 5th or 6th daily, with an extra game to boot over ATL, and against soft pitching. Its lightening in a bottle. I have till 7:00 PM.

I lost last week by benching Reimold. :damnit:
 
Fox might be a smart play this week, if he's playing more games than Chipper. I usually try to keep the consistent producers (like Chipper) in the lineup if I can...but many times will defer to whoevers playing more games.
 
You have to take in account recent ab's injuries and such. Benching Chipper could be costly.

I usually never have more than 1 player on my team hitting wise from the same team.

Weekly changes? Where's the fun in that?
 
JW32Hoops said:
Fox might be a smart play this week, if he's playing more games than Chipper. I usually try to keep the consistent producers (like Chipper) in the lineup if I can...but many times will defer to whoevers playing more games.
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That's usually my play as well. Though Chipper's homer against Penny may be a harbinger of things to come this week. McLouth is still "day to day"...

Chipper is not usually my first choice as 3B, due to his knack for getting injured... but he hung out too long in my draft and I scooped him up. I do have backup in Fox, and I also picked up Alex Gordon again for a post All Star break surge.

Whatever I end up doing, its almost certainly going to be the wrong choice. :lol:
 
MrBigPR said:
You have to take in account recent ab's injuries and such. Benching Chipper could be costly.

I usually never have more than 1 player on my team hitting wise from the same team.

Weekly changes? Where's the fun in that?
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Weekly is the standard for H2H dude. You play daily?
 
If the rest of your team is solid (r, hr, rbi, sb) and it's a toss up of stats go with the higher hand. Fox against Pit and Mil seals it for me after seeing the pitching Reimold has to put up with. Besides his hot start Reimold doesn't have too much else. His last 10 games or so aren't impressive at all.
 
TimberLakers said:
Weekly is the standard for H2H dude. You play daily?
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Yea I do daily, weekly was too much of a headache and just really sucky. A cake walk when it came to winning the league and bringing the cash home.

Don't tell me about making wrong choices....ugh.

I made this thread Invalid Link Removed
 
MrBigPR said:
If the rest of your team is solid (r, hr, rbi, sb) and it's a toss up of stats go with the higher hand. Fox against Pit and Mil seals it for me after seeing the pitching Reimold has to put up with. Besides his hot start Reimold doesn't have too much else. His last 10 games or so aren't impressive at all.
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Good reasoning. I like it. Also, Reimold has to contend with Lester, Smoltz, Beckett, Lackey, and Saunders (Palmer and O'Sullivan are Tomato cans).... Reimold will probably hit one bomb... but is that worth benching the guy hitting 400 over the past week and a half playing for his spot in the majors...
 
TimberLakers said:
Good reasoning. I like it. Also, Reimold has to contend with Lester, Smoltz, Beckett, Lackey, and Saunders (Palmer and O'Sullivan are Tomato cans).... Reimold will probably hit one bomb... but is that worth benching the guy hitting 400 over the past week and a half playing for his spot in the majors...
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Yea, lol @ tomato cans.

Fox problably goes deep 3 times with 7 rbi and 4 runs...bank on it
 
DAdams91982 said:
The other day they did an interview and they asked him if he like being call "The Mayne" with regards to Stan "The Man" Musial. I like his response, giving credit to Musial, saying there was only "One Man."

Adams
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I saw that too. Really showed class on his part. Besides, Albert is The Macheen.
 
Matt Garza throwing against the Blue Jays tonight. Historically he's lights-out against them. Would be nice to take at least 2 outta 3 in this series considering the tight AL East.

Niemann outpitched Doc Halladay last night....whodathunk?
 
Why is Derek Jeter the leading vote-getter for the All-Star game? Aside from hating the Yankme's and not wanting any of their players (especially Teixeira) in the AS game, Jeter's stats are not even that good.

All-Star Gayme is all a popularity contest. Yeah, everyone loves Josh Hamilton and the fact he got off the horse, but he's on the disable list and still in the top 3 for outfielders. Meanwhile, Carl Crawford is having a career year and is in 5th place. That just curdles my milk.
 
I can see that happening if she's at a game with her bf or husband and he fills one out first.

I know in Boston chicks are very into baseball. From what I've seen at the ballpark. My kinda girl.
 
Not saying that I agree with the Jeter selection... but who would you vote in over him in the AL? Scutaro is the next leading vote getter...

I would say Zobrist, but no one knows who the guy is.
 
Correction... I don't think Zobrist would be eligable at SS even though that's his natural position since he's playing 2B right now.

I don't see anyone I'd start over Jeter (offensively).
 
Here are my votes...

American League
First Base: Teixeira, M., NYY
Second Base: Kinsler, I., TEX
Third Base: Longoria, E., TB
Shortstop: Ramirez, A., CWS
Catcher: Mauer, J., MIN
Outfielder: Bay, J., BOS
Outfielder: Crawford, C., TB
Outfielder: Hunter, T., LAA

National League
First Base: Pujols, A., STL
Second Base: Utley, C., PHI
Third Base: Wright, D., NYM
Shortstop: Ramirez, H., FLA
Catcher: McCann, B., ATL
Outfielder: Beltran, C., NYM
Outfielder: Braun, R., MIL
Outfielder: Upton, J., ARI
 
I just looked at the latest results. Ramirez isn't even in the top 5.

1. Derek Jeter Yankees 3,046,813
2. Jason Bartlett Rays 1,419,499
3. Elvis Andrus Rangers 1,028,157
4. Marco Scutaro Blue Jays 807,199
5. Jed Lowrie Red Sox 576,629
 
I'd rather see Carlos Lee and Brad Hawpe in your NL lineup with Braun.

Everything else I can't argue with. I'd love to see Sizemore in the AL lineup, but he's having a rough year. Too rough.

We'll agree to disagree on the AL SS situation. :lol:
 
Droppingloads said:
I just looked at the latest results. Ramirez isn't even in the top 5.

1. Derek Jeter Yankees 3,046,813
2. Jason Bartlett Rays 1,419,499
3. Elvis Andrus Rangers 1,028,157
4. Marco Scutaro Blue Jays 807,199
5. Jed Lowrie Red Sox 576,629
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He had a couple weeks lost to injury, but yeah... that doesn't make sense to me. Jeter is going to be the starting SS in the AL until he retires or changes positions. Just gotta get used to it I guess. :dunno:

I'm shocked that A-Rod is out for once.
 
TimberLakers said:
Correction... I don't think Zobrist would be eligable at SS even though that's his natural position since he's playing 2B right now.

I don't see anyone I'd start over Jeter (offensively).
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Zobrist has played at 2nd base since Aki was injured back in May.

At the risk of sounding biased, Jason Bartlett should be playing 2nd base in the AS game. He's a handful of at-bats shy to be eligible for the second highest batting avg in MLB and undisputedly the highest BA for a SS in the AL. Statistically and just on general principle, Bartlett should be playing short in the AS game.

Just my $0.02
 
Adam23294 said:
Bartlett should be playing short in the AS game
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+1

Bartlett: .362 BA, 7 HR, 36 RBI, 43 R, 17 SB

Jeter: .307 BA, 9 HR, 32 RBI, 48 R, 17 SB


To be honest, when I looked this up, I expected Jeter's #'s to be lower. Not sure how many of those HR's have been due to that joke of a ballpark (9 is a lot for Jeter before the AS break...he hasn't hit 20 HR in a season in 5 years) but apart from that, his #'s look good enough to be an All-Star. (especially when you factor in his name/history/etc)
 
What makes Jeter stand out is that there are no good SS's in the AL anymore. Yeah Jeter is a good still but his numbers pale in comparison to some of the numbers in the NL for SS's.
 
Droppingloads said:
What makes Jeter stand out is that there are no good SS's in the AL anymore. Yeah Jeter is a good still but his numbers pale in comparison to some of the numbers in the NL for SS's.
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No arguing that... but that's not necessarily his fault that his competition is weak.

Someone with MUCH better numbers would get the nod over Jeet - that I'm confident of... but much like a championship boxing match, you can't just walk in and match the champ blow for blow - you need to take him apart and dominate.
 
Adam23294 said:
I'd say Bartlett's numbers make him more qualified for starting SS than Jeter.
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Not saying I don't agree with you... but unfortunately this comes down to votes and popularity... then stats. Comparitive stats will need to blow Jeter out of the water to take his spot.
 
TimberLakers said:
Not saying I don't agree with you... but unfortunately this comes down to votes and popularity... then stats. Comparitive stats will need to blow Jeter out of the water to take his spot.
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Word.....it goes back to the boxing analogy you made above. It's close enough to be justifiable.
 
:chairshot:

Overall stats-wise.....yes.

MLB Network, with their amazing statisticians, said that if Pena doesn't get in the AS game it will be the first time since some douche in the 80's who led the AL in home runs didn't get voted in.
 
Droppingloads said:
What makes Jeter stand out is that there are no good SS's in the AL anymore. Yeah Jeter is a good still but his numbers pale in comparison to some of the numbers in the NL for SS's.
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NO ones loathes the "skanks" more than yours truly,but MAD props to Jeter for AP'N Jessica Biel....just sayin:yumyum::yumyum::yumyum:

Just got a craving for "purple dental floss."
 

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JW32Hoops said:
Because people are stupid and there's a zillion half-ass Skanks fans in this country.
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Nothing more than a popularity contest.
What's even worse is the winner gets homefield in the WS.
That's flat out IGNORANT!
The team with the overall winning record should have homefield.Like it use to be.
You could have a wild card team who barely won 80 games end up with homefield over possibly a team with 100 w's!

Thank Bud Selig for that brain-fart:damnit:

NO way homefield in the WS should be determined by a popularity contest in July:damnit:
 
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