Back from the Dead... FINAFLEX 550-XD Q&A...
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ScottyDoc
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It's all good, just gotta be careful not to ruffle any feathers these days, I'm sure you understand, but I'm always here eager and willing to help the best way I can Bro! Oh and I was aware of Superdrol, but was not aware that DMZ is going on the banned list... are you sure???
ScottyDoc
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Well ok, thanks for the info!
dougeefreshh
Member
Hi, im currently 5'9" 158 and looking to put some muscle on before next summer...What can I expect from a bottle of fina...gain wise.
Also already have: Post Cycle II as a PCT
Also already have: Post Cycle II as a PCT
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
Sounds like you really want to give our 1-ALPHA a try, and I would think a good two bottle cycle would give you about 15Lbs-ish at 3 caps/day for 40 days....
dougeefreshh
Member
That is just andro?
DreamWeaver
Legend
No not even close ...much different compoound...
dougeefreshh
Member
I'm thinking about running 2 bottles of 550 with black pct
2 pills a day of 550
1 pill a night black pct
Followed by post cycle 2 to finish the pct
What would my gains look like beacuse I'm trying to add a lot of weight
2 pills a day of 550
1 pill a night black pct
Followed by post cycle 2 to finish the pct
What would my gains look like beacuse I'm trying to add a lot of weight
DreamWeaver
Legend
Not necessary to run PCT black during cycle as there are support supps included in 550
dougeefreshh
Member
Ok so could I expect 15-20 lbs?
DreamWeaver
Legend
I wouldn't, maybe 8-10 more like dropped body fat and 4 to 5 but factor in the fat loss it's more lean mass... depends how good you are on the diet. Remember supps and Ph's don't do it for you the more expertise the better the gains....
TurningGreen
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dougeefreshh said:
I agree with DW. No need for PCT Black for 550-XD. If you are going for straight mass you may want to keep 550-XD on the back burner and check out our 1-Andro or the up and coming 1-Alpha. What ever you choose to do be sure to hit us up with any questions. Good Luck bro!
xiaoniao
New member
hello .I'm a new PH user.I'm 24 .I have some questions. how about 1-andro stack with 550-xd for me ? my plan is 1-andro stack with 550-xd ,8 weeks,two 1-andro and two 550-xd and one black PCT every day .Then 4 weeks black PCT and pure test .
After the PCT ,I won't use any PH products in 3 month . Then I'll use 550-xd stack with Epi-V ,8 weeks , two 550 a day and two EPI a day and one black a day .Then 4 weeks black PCT and pure test .
IS the plan OK ?
After the PCT ,I won't use any PH products in 3 month . Then I'll use 550-xd stack with Epi-V ,8 weeks , two 550 a day and two EPI a day and one black a day .Then 4 weeks black PCT and pure test .
IS the plan OK ?
TurningGreen
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xiaoniao said:
I would bridge these products together bro. Week 1-4 1-Andro then bridge into weeks 4-8 550-XD. I would do the same with 550-XD into Epi-V as well. The order that you are taking them in is perfect 1-Andro to 550-XD to Epi-V is the way to go. PCT sounds solid as well. With good nutrition and training this will be a killer run.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah one compound at a time for a new user I agree with the 8 week senario 4 of 1-andro and 4 of 550...
xiaoniao
New member
hello ,you mean 8 weeks ,4 1-andro and 4 550-xd everyday. Is it safe ? The most important for me is safe . I hope to be bigger . And in this time ,i don't care my bodyfat . I think 550-xd stack with epi-v can help me lose fat .
Is 550-XD stack with Epi-V suitable for new PH user ?
Is 550-XD stack with Epi-V suitable for new PH user ?
DreamWeaver
Legend
not at that dose no I would be thinking more like 2 ed for a new user and maybe 3 but not 4...
ScottyDoc
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Xiaoniao... I believe for a new user taking 2caps/day of 1-ANDRO + 2caps/day of 550-XD for 4wks then bridge over to 2caps/day of EPI-V + 2caps/day of 550-XD for 2nd 4wks is your best bet being a new user and all. Please remember, more is not always better, you have virgin receptor sites, why take more than necessary to only get the same results? This is both my personal and professional opinion and it also seems to be the same opinion of most of my peers here on this forum. Also, to ensure quality gains, safety & retention, I also recommend taking 1cap/night of PCT Black during your cycle as intra-cycle support and upping that dose to 2caps/night after your cycle for 30 days as your post cycle therapy. In addition, I suggest adding 6caps of PURE TEST/night for 40 consecutive days taken in conjunction with your post cycle therapy. That my friend is the best, safest, and most effective first cycle one could ever hope for!
Also, I say this time and time again, but as amazing as our products are, they are not magic pills and will only work as well as the effort you are putting into them. In order to achieve the results that have been mentioned, posted or even bragged about on this wonderful forum, you will need to have a very regimented nutrition and exercise plan, one which you plan to continue even after your cycle in order to make these monumental gains, fat losses and more importantly to retain them. We wish you the best of luck and we are always here to help, thank you for choosing FINAFLEX!
xiaoniao
New member
Thank you for your reply. Do I need liver & kidney support, estrogen blocker, prostate shield ? I‘ve bought fish oil ,Milk thistle,Triazole of DS .Anything else I need to buy ?
DreamWeaver
Legend
Just use a cap of pct black for the 1-andro and you should not need anything for the 550 as it is included during pct run the pct black at 2 ed before bed and throw in some Pure test at 6 ed and I strongly recommend crea-trona at 6 ed as well... keep you rockin during recovery...and into bridge...
ScottyDoc
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^^^What he said^^^
DreamWeaver
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1captain
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New to PH, I am starting a cycle that consists of:
weeks 1-4 550xd-2 caps daily
weeks 5-8 PCT Revolution and Pure Test
and N.O. Xplode for a preworkout
Does anyone recommend other than that I am 205 trying to get to 190 and looking to gain muscle as well as shred up?
weeks 1-4 550xd-2 caps daily
weeks 5-8 PCT Revolution and Pure Test
and N.O. Xplode for a preworkout
Does anyone recommend other than that I am 205 trying to get to 190 and looking to gain muscle as well as shred up?
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TurningGreen
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DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah that will be fine..
ScottyDoc
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Supplementation looks on target, but is your diet/nutrition on point as well? I don't care who you are (novice --> pro) diet is everything (ectomoprh -->endomorph) might use different dieting/nutrition styles or even approaches, but if their nutrition is not in constant check, changes are going to be minimal!
TurningGreen
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True True True!! Good point Brotha Doc! 1Captian... Doc is right on the money. In general...If your diet is not on point you would have just as much success flushing the 550-XD down the toilet. Good Luck bro, any questions please hit us up!!
kc777
Banned
I'm super confused on this product. First off, is it a true 19-nor? Secondly, what are you recommending for PCT; if this is a true 19-nor wouldn't you want a SERM? Lastly, what is the conversion to, I'm guessing dienedrone? Very interested in this but need more info. Looks like a very awesome product but I need just a bit more info before jumping on board. Thanks!
DreamWeaver
Legend
No not 19-nor but one step from that. Due to 2 step conversion this is a milder version so a serm is not needed as the sides are very mild but you should probably have on hanging around, you never know... that is all I am permitted to divulge at this time.
ScottyDoc
Well-known member
I agree with DW... mild in sides, powerful in effects, no SERM necessary, but good practice as he and both have always preached to have one around just in case with the taking of any PH!
3b-enanthoxy-19nor-androst-4-ene-17-one --> 19nor-androstenediol 'or' 19nor-androsenedione --> 19norTestosterone (aka. Nandrolone or Deca).
kc777
Banned
ScottyDoc said:
So this is the conversion? And apx how much of the 3b-enanthoxy-19nor-androst-4-ene-17-one converts to the target hormone? Can this aromatize anywhere in the conversion? Thanks again for your quick reply! I'm thinking about picking up several bottles of this but I need to do a bit more research.
Also I just want to say I'm very impressed with the Q&A threads here; seeing reps that are very involved and willing to provide info instills a lot of faith in the product! Good job guys
ScottyDoc
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KC... I'm going to be honest with you and say yes, this is the conversion process 100% for sure. How much of the original compound actually converts to the target compound... I honestly do not know, nor do I think anyone would really know. What I mean is, everyone is different, so an exact amount would be impossible to predict, and as far as a range is concerned, that would take quite a bit of testing, more testing and money than anyone, to my knowledge, would be willing to invest in such a product, not to mention if we could prove exactly how much of it converts we would be also shooting ourselves in the foot by alerting certain governing agency's to the potency of our products leading us to be banned very quickly as they are on a serious witch hunt to shut down any and all prohormone manufacturing as I am sure you are well aware of. Now as far as how much of it aromatizes during the transition... again I don't know, but I do know that the target formula can and will aromatize to a certain degree, again everyone is different and that is why we have included our arimistane (aromatase inhibitor/anti-estrogen) in the product as well as a liver detoxifier/regenerator to provide built in intra-cycle support. I can tell you this, if you research a few of the LOGs we have online, you can and will see that it does work and is a very effective product, definitely not as effective as some of our now illegal or banned competitors you might still be able to find, but also safer and 100% Legal and DSHEA compliant.
We thank you for your compliments, we do our best to support, help and stand by our products. I only apologize for not being able to give you all the information you are asking for, but with that being said... I challenge any company's honesty who could provide such information about one of their PH's. Just remember when a lot of our competitor company's make certain claims,they are doing so based on chemistry and controlled studies in a lab and not actual human trial studies, which as we know is not one in the same. So my friend, I am doing my best to give you the most honest, realistic answer I can, without trying to pass off theory as fact!
DreamWeaver
Legend
Now that's a great answer, I didn't know how to respond to this and wasn't sure how much to divulge given the constant preasure for products to be kept compliant and where they are going concerning legality. Guys please know that a lot of this is kind of sensitive information for various reasons, so if we can't be as specific as you would like know that the products are both safe and effective. I have personally used them and at complete peace with their safety and effectiveness..
TurningGreen
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I am with DW. I use and trust Finaflex products all day long. Since I stumbled upon Finaflex more than a year ago I don't think I have used another supplement company...with the exception of multi-Vs and Protein. Its awesome to see from my standpoint how many people have been using Finaflex products and loving them Phs included! Finaflex just makes damn good supplements, and thats what we are all in search of in the end.
DreamWeaver
Legend
If you feel you need to fine. 550 may have you energized enough but who knows... I love my ignite and hate to train without it but if I am cycling and feel really energized I might be persuaded to give it a rest... see how you feel...
TurningGreen
Well-known member
Yeah bro, 550-XD will stack just fine with Ignite. You may not need it as DW said, but it comes down to personal preference. I didn't notice any lethargy from 550-XD when I cycled it...if that helps.
JCGrifter
New member
I'm hesitant to try this product. Earlier in the year I used Finaflex 1-andro with very little results. Honestly I would have gotten the same results without taking it. I was taking 4 caps ed. My diet and macros were in check. Training has always been spot on. The only thing I really noticed was after the cycle my strength went down a little. So my question is, is this product that much better and I should see some better results? If so, can you explain why I may respond to this product better than the 1-andro? I don't want to waste money.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Not better but different, you obviously didn't respond or the 1-andro did not convert well for you. We've had people put on 15 lbs with 1-andro. You may want to try 1-alpha which is a better conversion 550 is a good recomp product but 1-alpha is much stronger.
kenpoengineer
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JCG I'm one of those that had Finaflex 1Andro work well for. I'm 52 and in my 6th week and have put on about 14 pounds. The only thing that's a little different is that I combined with 550XD. Please see my thread in this same section.
One thing that I noticed is my appetite went through the roof but I didn't put on any fat like I normally would. Did you experience the same?
Maybe a retry with 550XD or switch to 1 Alpha? Either way good gains to you.
One thing that I noticed is my appetite went through the roof but I didn't put on any fat like I normally would. Did you experience the same?
Maybe a retry with 550XD or switch to 1 Alpha? Either way good gains to you.
DreamWeaver
Legend
Yah the only thing about 1-alpha that worries me for you is that what if you did not respond to what it converts to cuz they both convert to the same thing. It could be the conversion itself thoug and in that case the 1-alpha woould work better.
550 will add muslce no doubt but it will also burn a lot of fat. I have seen 2 lbs weight gain but significant fat loss so in the end you have as much lean mass as you would have gotten from the stronger product.
The stack of 1-alpha and 550 is what has me more excited than anything I have to admit. With the massive strength gains from 1 alpha you could get some much needed joint support from 550 plus the extra recomp during cycle. Dose according to goals so in that way it's very versitile.
ScottyDoc
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^^^ This Right Here!!! ^^^
DreamWeaver
Legend
DreamWeaver
Legend
Good idea those big lifts are going to need some joint support.