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Average bench press

This is true...if I wanted to stay the same weight I am today. But to walk around at 7% year round would likely mean that I'm also considerably smaller than I am now, and certainly not as strong.

I've actually gained 35 lbs in the past 6 months after coming back from a torn nerve injury while maintaining 7%. Been on a strict paleo diet for the past year that's worked phenomenal with stay at a low bf% and still gaining muscle and strength with high intensity interval weight training (not CrossFit, but weight training.)
 
When your aesthetic as **** and a fitness model benching 135 3x15 doing 250-350 reps of chest on chest day then you'll see my point. Weight is just a number homie

Saddest answer in AM history so far...when you are a experienced MMA fighter, record holding powerlifter, have a proper education (meaning at least undergrad degree aside from the meathead education you just displayed...) and are a well known trainer for both power and aesthetic athletes...yeah then you talk back. Now allow me to answer back to you in terms you get:

"Posing in your undies is just your hobby homie some of us rather the value of looking not only strong, but being able to put you down one handed in real life for comments like this...homie"
 
Saddest answer in AM history so far...when you are a experienced MMA fighter, record holding powerlifter, have a proper education (meaning at least undergrad degree aside from the meathead education you just displayed...) and are a well known trainer for both power and aesthetic athletes...yeah then you talk back. Now allow me to answer back to you in terms you get:

"Posing in your undies is just your hobby homie some of us rather the value of looking not only strong, but being able to put you down one handed in real life for comments like this...homie"

4 year nutrition degree homie :), working on personal training, and respiratory therapy degree.
 
4 year nutrition degree homie :), working on personal training, and respiratory therapy degree.

I'm glad I was right. Now on a more mature note:

Your goals, and the numbers you cherish (which I presume is your bf % and muscle size in inches) are just that in the end...numbers like you said. The value we put into those numbers varies amongst each individual and desired goal/dream. For you it might be. 10/10 to look like a ken doll, to me that might be a 6/10 in my priority scale if I cannot lift as much as I want...now, would I mind looking like a stripper and being able to have a 1100 total? Yup, but just looking like a walking steak is not enough for me :/
 
Have been a silent observer on here for a while, but my weight is 5' 11", 167lb's and Bench 1RM is 220lbs (100kg for us Aussies). I was pretty happy to crack the 100kg but not sure if this is good, poor or average for my height/weight...?

Don't think I can post videos etc yet but I will when I can for the non-believers..

Edit: Have been lifting for about 11 months now, seriously anyway, was on and off before that..
 
Have been a silent observer on here for a while, but my weight is 5' 11", 167lb's and Bench 1RM is 220lbs (100kg for us Aussies). I was pretty happy to crack the 100kg but not sure if this is good, poor or average for my height/weight...?

Don't think I can post videos etc yet but I will when I can for the non-believers..

Edit: Have been lifting for about 11 months now, seriously anyway, was on and off before that..

Look for the strength standards website, my guess is you would be ranked halfway between intermediate and advanced. Decent.
 
I've actually gained 35 lbs in the past 6 months after coming back from a torn nerve injury while maintaining 7%. Been on a strict paleo diet for the past year that's worked phenomenal with stay at a low bf% and still gaining muscle and strength with high intensity interval weight training (not CrossFit, but weight training.)

What do you weigh? And how tall?
 
Have been a silent observer on here for a while, but my weight is 5' 11", 167lb's and Bench 1RM is 220lbs (100kg for us Aussies). I was pretty happy to crack the 100kg but not sure if this is good, poor or average for my height/weight...?

Don't think I can post videos etc yet but I will when I can for the non-believers..

Edit: Have been lifting for about 11 months now, seriously anyway, was on and off before that..

For your weight --> it's pretty average. For your height? Not at all. Most guys that are avid bodybuilder's/powerlifters weigh 220-260 at that height. So, yes it's pretty good relative to your weight and no it's not relative to how much stronger you could be given that you put on some weight. At that height you could support tons more weight and strength.

For me, on the other hand, 200lbs is just barely feasible and at that weight I could support 1500+ lbs on the big three (i.e. 450 bench, 500 squat, 550 deadlift).
 
Look for the strength standards website, my guess is you would be ranked halfway between intermediate and advanced. Decent.


yeah it aint puny but I mean I weigh 5lb less and can do 275lbs twice on incline bench. Might I add also, this is with strict, impeccable form. Some would actually say my normal press tempo is really a negative, if that matters. I like to strut the emphasis on control and form, personally. No bouncing whatsoever because bouncing is taking advantage of the laws of physics rather than exemplifying strength.
 
5'11 as of this morning 196lbs


Well then I'm gonna shut up and listen cuz at that weight and BF your pretty dang well off. Better genetics than me obviously but that wont stop me from becoming something I wasn't meant to become. :tongue2:
 
Well then I'm gonna shut up and listen cuz at that weight and BF your pretty dang well off. Better genetics than me obviously but that wont stop me from becoming something I wasn't meant to become. :tongue2:

So decided to lift heavy after focusing on high rep. 1st attempt 5 full ROM incline db press. High weight does fast twitch muscle right?
 
So decided to lift heavy after focusing on high rep. 1st attempt 5 full ROM incline db press. High weight does fast twitch muscle right?

Heavy weight is ideal for fast twitch muscles, like the ones found in your chest, shoulders and hamstrings. I usually lift heavier for chest & hams and I go a bit lighter on quads with a higher volume and pace. Back, arms and shoulders I tend to have a blend of volume and weight, usually doing a pyramid scheme with a burnout set at the end of each exercise.

The other day I did this for chest:

Incline BB Bench Press: 90 second rest
135 X 10 Warm-up
155 X 10 Warm-up
185 X 10 Warm-up
225 X 10 (To failure)
245 X 4 (To Failure)

Flat BB Bench: About 60-75 second rest

185 X 15 (To failure)
185 X 7 (Failure plus assisted)
185 X 6 (Failure plus assisted)

Flyes, Peck-Deck & Push-ups to finish it off. Those ranged from 8-12 reps for each. Push-ups were 5 sets of 10 reps w/ 10 second rest b/w sets. This structure has worked well for my chest. While it isn't my largest muscle group, it is certainly a well-rounded group of muscles now.
 
Heavy weight is ideal for fast twitch muscles, like the ones found in your chest, shoulders and hamstrings. I usually lift heavier for chest & hams and I go a bit lighter on quads with a higher volume and pace. Back, arms and hams I tend to have a blend of volume and weight, usually doing a pyramid scheme with a burnout set at the end of each exercise.

The other day I did this for chest:

Incline BB Bench Press: 90 second rest
135 X 10 Warm-up
155 X 10 Warm-up
185 X 10 Warm-up
225 X 10 (To failure)
245 X 4 (To Failure)

Flat BB Bench: About 60-75 second rest

185 X 15 (To failure)
185 X 7 (Failure plus assisted)
185 X 6 (Failure plus assisted)

Flyes, Peck-Deck & Push-ups to finish it off. Those ranged from 8-12 reps for each. Push-ups were 5 sets of 10 reps w/ 10 second rest b/w sets. This structure has worked well for my chest. While it isn't my largest muscle group, it is certainly a well-rounded group of muscles now.

Gotta love the chest striations for sure. Ima give it a try, I always superset'ed chest after a couple warm up workouts. Seen good results but never went heavy.

I'll give these Pyrimid scheme a try and see how it goes.

Thanks for the advice
 
Average Bench Press Chart for Men

if you weigh 133 and bench 225, that's advance and close to elite. i found this chart as a guide to go by. I'm the same as you, not quite elite but well advanced. I'm at 295 and weigh 180. It seems stout though when you can bench press a hundred pounds over your weight.

Pounds
Body Weight
Novice
Intermediate
85
90
100
110
120
130
135
140
145
150
155
160

[TD="colspan: 5"] [SIZE=+1]Bench Press - Adult Men[/SIZE]
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[TH="bgcolor: #d9d9ff"]Untrained
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[TH="width: 16%, bgcolor: #d9d9ff"]Advanced
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[TH="width: 16%, bgcolor: #d9d9ff"]Elite
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[TD="width: 20%"]114
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"] 110
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]130
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"] 180
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[TD="width: 16%"] 220
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[TD="width: 20%"]123
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"] 115
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"] 140
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"] 195
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]240
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]132
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]125
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]155
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]210
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]260
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]148
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]140
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]170
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]235
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]290
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]165
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]150
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]185
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]255
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]320
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]181
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]165
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]200
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]275
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]345
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]198
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]175
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]215
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]290
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]360
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]220
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]185
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]225
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]305
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]380
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]242
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]190
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]230
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]315
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]395
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]275
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]195
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]240
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]325
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]405
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]319
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]200
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]245
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]335
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]415
[/TD]

[TD="width: 20%"]320+
[/TD]

[TD="width: 16%"]205
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]250
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]340
[/TD]
[TD="width: 16%"]425


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I'm 205 and I benched 205 for 23 reps Wednesday. Is that good?

Sounds good to me.

Benching my weight is a joke, lol. 163lbs...geeze I got that 25 times or better. I think I'm realisitcally close to about 295lbs incline bench press, maybe 305lbs on flat for 1 rep. Hard to tell what exactly but its in the ballpark of 300lbs.

However, I do not agree with the ratios for a 320lb man. 425 should come easy at that weight for an advanced lifter. I think of my old boss who weight 290-300lb range, NEVER trained chest and could bench 450lbs for about 2 reps.

Then I think of another fella in my gym who is freakishly strong even though he is tons of gear all the time. He weighs in at 220lbs (only about 5'7") and I've watched and spotted him benching 500lbs for 3 reps. Freakin crazy...
 
Well I'm 5'4", 132lbs and have a 1 rep max of 275lbs. I was where you were at with 225 for awhile...then I switched to an 8,6,4,2 routine and it shot up.
 
Well I'm 5'4", 132lbs and have a 1 rep max of 275lbs. I was where you were at with 225 for awhile...then I switched to an 8,6,4,2 routine and it shot up.

Thats a good number man. Unfortunately, as you increase in mass, the strength gains give diminishing returns. I think the best PL'ers are in the 160-180lb range and sub 10% BF.

I've seen a 165lb'er squat 500lbs relatively easy and DL'ed 600+. Just amazing..
 
Thats a good number man. Unfortunately, as you increase in mass, the strength gains give diminishing returns. I think the best PL'ers are in the 160-180lb range and sub 10% BF. I've seen a 165lb'er squat 500lbs relatively easy and DL'ed 600+. Just amazing..

So much wrong here.
 
Thats a good number man. Unfortunately, as you increase in mass, the strength gains give diminishing returns. I think the best PL'ers are in the 160-180lb range and sub 10% BF. I've seen a 165lb'er squat 500lbs relatively easy and DL'ed 600+. Just amazing..

No professional 165lb'r will total what a professional 308 totals.
 
No professional 165lb'r will total what a professional 308 totals.

No crap. Didnt say that at all. Diminishing RETURNS. Talking about a decreasing rate of increase. Wish I was able to show u a graph to help u grasp what I'm saying. I'm talking lb for lb thats the best weight class IN GENERAL. I've seen lots of fellas in that weight range that can collectively lift 1500 between the big three. 308 class doesnt have the best ratio of weight to strength, therefore my statement of diminishing RETURNS. A return by mathematical definition is a positive number, as in an increase in total weight lifted. Typically once u get past a certain weight class, the efficiency dwindles.

This is common in everything in life, not just weight lifting sir.
 
I'll take that.

What I posted wasnt meant to be so blatantly obvious. It sounded different in my head at the time lol
 
I'll take that.

What I posted wasnt meant to be so blatantly obvious. It sounded different in my head at the time lol

Yeah I know. Its hard to communicate with text only.

I'm not gonna pick a fight with Rodja on this either. We'll just have to disagree.
 
The best classes are 198-242 both raw and geared. There will be some exceptions to this (e.g. Schwab), but those are always the most competitive and best ratios.
 
I guess thats why I have been impressed with the smaller weight classes though. Saw 150lb'er press 330. Aint bad.

An old powerlifting record here in TN for the 165lb class for bp is like 420lbs. Just ridiculous. Granted, that was with SLP, which doesnt exist anymore. This is why I never bothered with powerlifting. U either have the genetics to win or u dont. Aint no way I'm gonna get to a 400+ bench without tons of Tren and weighing 180+. Seeing the record numbers was so discouraging.
 
I don't see a 'new member - post here first' section so guess I'll start here.

Weigh 175 currently, max bench 405 lbs.
 
Do it bud. How is your squat and deadlift?
Tbh I'm not sure what my numbers are for each, but not bad. I've been focusing a lot on squats, deadlift, clean n jerk, etc the past year. I've been working on really building up my lower body.
 
Almost nobody likes it bro. If you like squat day you're obviously doing it wrong. You're numbers look good, hard to tell because proper form makes a big difference and Idk what your form looks like but if you aren't squatting you're definitely doing something wrong. At this point I would just say start squatting bro, start light and work on technique because you don't want to get hurt but you really do need to squat, and eat more lol.

I like squat day cuz I love that burn and struggle and strain.
 
Interesting thread. I am currently starting my chest days with Dumbbells. Im up to 125's x 3 reps. I do DB inclines next - up to 105's there x 5 reps on my best set. I do BB's second currently. I get up to 275 x 2. Up to 265 x 1 on incline... Haven't tried max barbell in a while...
 
I like squat day cuz I love that burn and struggle and strain.

I love squat day because it's where I feel I have the most gain potential. I look forward to it. Up to 365 ATG (after hitting 345 x 1, 355 x 1). It was a great session. Up from 345 x 1 the week before...
 
I would say if your double your BW for your bench and triple your BW for squat and deadlift your strong
 
I would say if your double your BW for your bench and triple your BW for squat and deadlift your strong

Wow, them are some mighty high numbers....

200# guy must put up a 600-400-600 total to be considered strong (no assistance equipment, including wraps)

250# guys get ready for 750-500-750.

I could probably count on one hand the people who can do that without wraps lol.....
 
Wow, them are some mighty high numbers....

200# guy must put up a 600-400-600 total to be considered strong (no assistance equipment, including wraps)

250# guys get ready for 750-500-750.

I could probably count on one hand the people who can do that without wraps lol.....

Yeah but that's probably competitive at a national level too. It ain't breaking records by any means but it's stronger than ur average strong guy.

I think X 2 and X 2.5 - 2.75 would also be competitive as well. This is especially necessary in the lighter classes that are less than 200lbs.
 
A roughly 8xBW raw total qualifies as elite. That's definitely something reserved for a very small fraction of lifters.
 
Yeah but that's probably competitive at a national level too. It ain't breaking records by any means but it's stronger than ur average strong guy.

I think X 2 and X 2.5 - 2.75 would also be competitive as well. This is especially necessary in the lighter classes that are less than 200lbs.

w/o wraps or sleeves? I'm guessing it would be a little bit more than competitive at a national level....
 
Let's think about this, we have a guy on this forum who recently squatted 660 @ 220 with knee wraps.

That also put him in the top 50 on PLwatch (~34 IIRC).

So the top 50 guys on PLwatch may not even have 3x BW squats (considering Sean's 660 @220 is higher than some of the other squats). And again, that was with wraps.....
 
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