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Article: Protein Every 3 Hours Is Optimal

So for younger folk old preaching works best? Huh...fancy that.
 
Anybody else notice the Nestlé part? Don't they own a supplement company these days?

Even Pepsi is coming out with a protien drink LOL. Wouldn't put it past them.
 
The study doesn't indicate one should consume more protein, it just repeats what a lot of studies are demonstrating lately about the benefits to triggering muscle protein synthesis (2-3g Leucine has shown positive results) as many time as possible in the frame of a day. There seems to be about a 3 hour refractory period where you can't "re-trigger" MPS but as soon as you can, why wouldn't you? You can get 3g of Leucine from whole food protein easily if you eat foods containing 7-10% Leucine by volume etc.

Whether Nestlé has a supplement brand or not your consumption of whole foods won't make much difference to them unless you drink 30oz of their chocolate milk to get 3g Leucine, or Ensure.
 
This is non sense. You can fast 20 hours a day and still maintain all muscle mass. You can so the same with roughly a 14-16 hour fast with regards to muscle building.
 
This is non sense. You can fast 20 hours a day and still maintain all muscle mass. You can so the same with roughly a 14-16 hour fast with regards to muscle building.

Agreed. Total nutrient intake for the day is more important than meal frequency or timing.

I used to be on AM all the time but I rarely visit anymore. Ridiculous articles like this coming to my inbox are the main reason why.
 
This is non sense. You can fast 20 hours a day and still maintain all muscle mass. You can so the same with roughly a 14-16 hour fast with regards to muscle building.

The article does not make a claim that it's the only way, just optimal. IF protocol is an optimal way to lose weight and maintain a great amount of your lean mass ( less blood glucose fluctuation ).

Total protein intake can hold a high percentage of mass intact, there is some very minimal loss, or less efficient gain. Hitting the muscle protein synthesis threshold more frequently will induce more efficient growth.

In the end both paths lead to similar destinations at different speeds. To each his own.
 
Yeah, once again with this argument we are confusing optimal and doable and bunching panties in the process.
 
Stopped reading at "researchers at Nestle".

Many, many studies are paid for by major corporate interests and performed at universities. I for one trust private corporations more than government, and they're the other major source of funds. You just have to pick your poison. Fact of life. Read critically, but don't ignore relevant knowledge.
 
Many, many studies are paid for by major corporate interests and performed at universities. I for one trust private corporations more than government, and they're the other major source of funds. You just have to pick your poison. Fact of life. Read critically, but don't ignore relevant knowledge.

I worked briefly in a research project for a company (albeit a dog food company)
and quickly learned the company was selective in the data it used and was in later research 'grants' was pushing for certain outcomes. University research is often more credible, however, like you said it is very important to read critically and to do further investigation.
 
I worked briefly in a research project for a company (albeit a dog food company)
and quickly learned the company was selective in the data it used and was in later research 'grants' was pushing for certain outcomes. University research is often more credible, however, like you said it is very important to read critically and to do further investigation.

Thank you for sharing.
 
I worked briefly in a research project for a company (albeit a dog food company) and quickly learned the company was selective in the data it used and was in later research 'grants' was pushing for certain outcomes. University research is often more credible, however, like you said it is very important to read critically and to do further investigation.
I don't doubt it one bit. I don't actually consider the source so much (unless they have either egregious or stellar reputations). In addition to reading critically, I try to ask myself what the benefit of pushing certain outcomes would be.
 
Many, many studies are paid for by major corporate interests and performed at universities. I for one trust private corporations more than government, and they're the other major source of funds. You just have to pick your poison. Fact of life. Read critically, but don't ignore relevant knowledge.

Why would you trust private corporations more than the govt? Explain to me what the govt has done to upset you and I'll explain to you how wealthy private interests and corporations have hijacked the govt in 99% of those cases.
 
I wonder what the effect was on body composition and overall health? Since that is what most of us are really shooting for...not being giant masses of fat and muscle competing on worlds strongest man. Yet these studies get pushed by dieticians in the media on people like MY MOM. It pisses me off...

LOL, also..."The difference in net muscle increase between the three groups was subtle. The difference was not statistically significant,..."
 
Why would you trust private corporations more than the govt? Explain to me what the govt has done to upset you and I'll explain to you how wealthy private interests and corporations have hijacked the govt in 99% of those cases.
Oh, yes, the poor helpless government officials had no choice but to give in to these interests. o_0 It's true there is a disgusting relationship between several select ultra corporations and many (most) government officials, but you assume that the responsibility is all on one side and that's preposterous. What happened to accountability for government officials? Corporate interests only have as much power as our officials ALLOW them to purchase. When it comes down to it, I trust the government less because they have more intrinsic power and they have the intrinsic ability to act above the law. To top it off, they frequently abuse it. Major corporations' power waxes and wanes with political favor. The great irony is, people like you buy into the slight of hand the government plays where they put focus on major corporate interests. Corporate interests rise and fall continuously with their utility. The government continues to grow larger, more intrusive, and more abusive.
 
I wonder what the effect was on body composition and overall health? Since that is what most of us are really shooting for...not being giant masses of fat and muscle competing on worlds strongest man. Yet these studies get pushed by dieticians in the media on people like MY MOM. It pisses me off...

LOL, also..."The difference in net muscle increase between the three groups was subtle. The difference was not statistically significant,..."

I think most people (here) are shooting for being giant masses of sinewy, lean muscle. Especially if they are reading articles on protein synthesis, in which case discussion over optimal vs. doable is warranted.

Net muscle is built over time. Adding even a couple extra pounds of net muscle per year is actually pretty fantastic when you've passed up the beginner level of mass building. Some of us are near our natural ceiling and extreme discipline, drastic changes in diet and training et cetera are required to put more muscle on and you can bet your average, happy in the middle ass something like nutrient timing giving even a slight edge is to be taken with more than a grain of salt.

In the right perspective, the effect on body composition is huge. And regarding health, frequent and large amounts of protein offer ample benefits.

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Again, especially in forum conversations, this topic is about optimal intake. Berardi is a smart dude, worth a read.
 
^ Another great read on the topic of protein is Lyle McDonald's "The Protein Book". I'd definitely recommend it.
 
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