Article: Are Olympic Lifts Really Important?

I dont play sports so I cant speak to that, but I find olympic lifts have great benefits as far as physique/aesthetics go.

Not to mention the fact that doing them is both exciting and scientific at the same time.
 
This article sounds like it was written by a dude who just didn't like, or didn't know how to use Oly lifts correctly
 
Power = strength, but strength doesn't equal power.

You want to be stronger AND faster, you have to train for it.

And you don't see any flabby Olympic lifters.
Can't say the same for power lifters (which should be called strength lifting)
 
jbryand101b said:
Really? How many fat guys you see on the rings?
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Look at some of the top powerlifters (excluding the 308's +) and they all have some pretty lean physiques. I've seen some chubbies in the Olympics.

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All you crossfit people are obviously taking offence, did you not read he is certified in several different areas including Olympic lifting and did a year long incorporation with his OLYMPIC athletes so just read, educate yourself and apply the knowledge and perhaps you will one day add muscle to that 160 "aesthetic" frame you got from crossfit.
 
I don't know... Throughout high school football I saw a direct correlation between my 40 time and my power clean, If I slacked on my cleans and the weight went down my 40 got worse If my clean went up my 40 got better
 
Talk about lazy writing...
We have no idea what kind of athletes you were using snatch and C&J variations with
You didn't tell us how they were using them
We don't know if you were even teaching them properly

There are a lot more reasons than just speed to incorporate Weightlifting techniques, such as
increased strength
timing
flexibility
power
body awareness
etc...

For sure there are sports that Weightlifting isn't very practical (particularly sports that are big on rotational power) but for most, they are invaluable, and it has been my experience that coaches that denounce them simply suck at teaching them and are intimidated by them. Working with Olympic level athletes does not mean anything in relation to being a useful coach of Weightlifting techniques. I would like to see some footage of people you've coached in regards to snatch and C&J because I have a feeling they won't be very good. And to say that Weightlifting won't help your jumping ability is laughing at best.

I also enjoyed the opening statement about the "momentum of Olympic lifting' makes it suboptimal...Where do you think the momentum came from? Your body generated it...
 
forcefedfreak said:
Talk about lazy writing... We have no idea what kind of athletes you were using snatch and C&J variations with You didn't tell us how they were using them We don't know if you were even teaching them properly There are a lot more reasons than just speed to incorporate Weightlifting techniques, such as increased strength timing flexibility power body awareness etc... For sure there are sports that Weightlifting isn't very practical (particularly sports that are big on rotational power) but for most, they are invaluable, and it has been my experience that coaches that denounce them simply suck at teaching them and are intimidated by them. Working with Olympic level athletes does not mean anything in relation to being a useful coach of Weightlifting techniques. I would like to see some footage of people you've coached in regards to snatch and C&J because I have a feeling they won't be very good. And to say that Weightlifting won't help your jumping ability is laughing at best. I also enjoyed the opening statement about the "momentum of Olympic lifting' makes it suboptimal...Where do you think the momentum came from? Your body generated it...
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I see no point in incorporating Olympic lifts into bodybuilding. If you like doing it, then do it.
That's what I got out of this article.
I don't waste my time with oly lifts. I want to protect my body so I can get hooge :)
 
I do dead lifts...

and I would like to see any of those powerlifters, olympic lifters, or jbryand do a cockpushup!

^^
Cockpushup=real measure of strength and manliness
 
Wrivest said:
I do cck push-ups, but I half rep....it's not my fault, I don't wanna talk about it anymore
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Its ok...I understand-I was there once!

after a year I added 2 inches to my frame, increased my 1RM, and set a few prs for reps.

Its a marathon-not a sprint!
 
Back to the point here: I'm a big fan of Oly lifting, but I think a lot of people misunderstand how to incorporate them. I don't just hit the gym, do some clean n jerks, a few snatches and call it a day. If you are going to use them, ya gotta do barbell complexes, incorporating Oly lifts. Ex: snatch grip DL, hang power snatch, 2overhead squats, heaving snatch balance. Get thought that, without dropping the bar, then go up in weight.
I do this (not just this, but you know what I mean) about 2 days a week. It helps explosive strength and definitely helps work on stabilizing muscles within your core. It's not for everyone, but to each their own.
 
Uh, bs. I have competed and trained athletes of various sports with oly lifts and it improves significantly every speed/power/strength category you can think of and so have many other "experts"
 
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