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Anyone worried if Corona virus keeps spreading the gyms will shut down?

Governor Cuomo said today he doesn’t see the economy opening in 2 or 3 weeks and if Trump issues an order to do so he will fight it in Federal court. I can see this getting ugly real quick with a fight going all the way to the Supreme Court over state rights verse the rights of the Executive Branch of the Federal government. Obviously I am for opening it up, but I am a Federalist so I don’t think Trump has legal ground to stand on when he says he has the authority to override a state governor’s decision for stay at home orders. I could easily see Trump ordering states to reopen May 1 at least in part and some states not doing so and a fight ensuing. Love Trump or hate Trump I think his re-election hinges on how well his decision on this plays out whatever route he chooses to go. If he orders it closed another month and the economy crashes beyond its ability to recover before his re-election he is doomed. If he opens it up and the virus runs everywhere he is also doomed.
 
I'm just saying that if someone is somehow living in the US, working full time, and paying taxes (and hasn't committed any crimes while here, besides being here illegally I suppose), there should be a way for them to be able to stay, as they've demonstrated that they are contributing members of society and not burdens on the system. Not everyone who is here illegally actually pays taxes.
before this is over AMERICA will have changed...many businesses could go under and a whole lot of AMERICANS might not have jobs to go back to...my priority is taking care of AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!

with the kind of debt we are running up I see many needed cuts coming to programs that help needy AMERICAN CITIZENS...we need to look out for our own as 1st priority!!!!
 
Interesting federalism debate can come out of this (and the money)

If the federal government shut down the economy, they are expected to pay people and businesses they forced to stop working. If the federal government shut them down, the federal government can open them back up.

If it was the Governors orders that shut down businesses, then it is the individual state governments to pay their people for the time they were forced not to work by their state governments.

Trump can sit back and have the last laugh on that one??
 
Figure since this is the Corona thread this question is appropriate here-Anybody get their relief check yet? I haven’t, but from what I read a lot of them wont be deposited until tomorrow.
 
The mortality rate world wide is 6.2%
In the USA it is 3.95% or 4.0% if you round up.

The seasonal flu is .1% yearly worldwide.
20,000 people died in a month from Covid-19


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There is a second wave in China and South Korea.
The Spanish Flu had 3 waves.
This thing is not going away soon, and the reason it could be as bad as The Spanish Flu is, if we ignore history.
Lol nooooo just no. It's not killing 4 out of every 100 Americans who get it. Bro you wack af.

so many people including myself have already had this and gotten over it that's not in your statistics
 
Lol nooooo just no. It's not killing 4 out of every 100 Americans who get it. Bro you wack af
According to the CDC, it's killing 4 out of every 100 Americans who tested positive for it. There are undoubtedly some people who never get tested for it due to being asymptomatic, or only slightly/moderately symptomatic, who don't die, and don't get counted as people who have it, which leads to an overly high death rate. But the same can be argued for the flu as well; not everyone who gets the flu gets tested and is found to have it in a test, so those flu death rates would also be similarly high. So if you're making ad hoc adjustments to the COVID death rate, you must logically do the same for the flu death rate. My point being that this virus is irrefutably stronger/worse/deadlier than the normal flu, even if it's not 4% deadly.
 
Lol nooooo just no. It's not killing 4 out of every 100 Americans who get it. Bro you wack af.

so many people including myself have already had this and gotten over it that's not in your statistics

It’s called math. Try it some time bronoadski.
 
According to the CDC, it's killing 4 out of every 100 Americans who tested positive for it. There are undoubtedly some people who never get tested for it due to being asymptomatic, or only slightly/moderately symptomatic, who don't die, and don't get counted as people who have it, which leads to an overly high death rate. But the same can be argued for the flu as well; not everyone who gets the flu gets tested and is found to have it in a test, so those flu death rates would also be similarly high. So if you're making ad hoc adjustments to the COVID death rate, you must logically do the same for the flu death rate. My point being that this virus is irrefutably stronger/worse/deadlier than the normal flu, even if it's not 4% deadly.
I'm pretty sure I've had it my girlfriends had it my son's had it and several people at my work I've had it. For most people its not worth the hassle. The ones that are dying and getting tested are the ones that are having significant problems. this thing is so contagious I bet a majority of the population has already had it or was exposed just was not tested.

I agree it's serious and I agree we need to take measures but I think there's a lot of fear involved with people looking at numbers in death ratios that are unnecessary. I don't live my life in fear of that nonsense. I'll do what suggested and I'll take my chances
 
Yes via direct deposit.
The government must like you with such a speedy delivery 😊

That's cuz he's a stud. It's his stud money. It may not even be from the gov'ment. It's just for being a stud.

I heard trump supporters are getting their 1st... @justhere4comm ;)

I heard Trump supporters get theirs first, and then Trump supports get Hillary supporters' checks later.

I'm pretty sure I've had it my girlfriends had it my son's had it and several people at my work I've had it. For most people its not worth the hassle. The ones that are dying and getting tested are the ones that are having significant problems. this thing is so contagious I bet a majority of the population has already had it or was exposed just was not tested.

I agree it's serious and I agree we need to take measures but I think there's a lot of fear involved with people looking at numbers in death ratios that are unnecessary. I don't live my life in fear of that nonsense. I'll do what suggested and I'll take my chances

What makes you so sure? Did you all get tested? When did you have it?
 
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This is interesting.

In a nutshell. Short answer.
An arthritis MEd approved to fight cytokines storms in cancer patients saved this doctors life.

That and vitamin. C.
 
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This is interesting.

In a nutshell. Short answer.
An arthritis MEd approved to fight cytokines storms in cancer patients saved this doctors life.

That and vitamin. C.
 
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This is interesting.

In a nutshell. Short answer.
An arthritis MEd approved to fight cytokines storms in cancer patients saved this doctors life.

That and vitamin. C.

This is the Tocilizumab that @Ricky10 was saying they are using in his hospital now. It's being tried and has some promising results.

I am a big proponent of Vitamin C and D of course.
 
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This is interesting.

In a nutshell. Short answer.
An arthritis MEd approved to fight cytokines storms in cancer patients saved this doctors life.

That and vitamin. C.
lol..if trump had told this story you would be accusing him of pedaling snake oil. funny how that works-eh?
 
I'm pretty sure I've had it my girlfriends had it my son's had it and several people at my work I've had it. For most people its not worth the hassle. The ones that are dying and getting tested are the ones that are having significant problems. this thing is so contagious I bet a majority of the population has already had it or was exposed just was not tested.

I agree it's serious and I agree we need to take measures but I think there's a lot of fear involved with people looking at numbers in death ratios that are unnecessary. I don't live my life in fear of that nonsense. I'll do what suggested and I'll take my chances
How do you know any of you had it? You got tested? How do you know it wasn't the normal flu, or any number of other illnesses?

I promise you the "MAJORITY of the population" has NOT already had it. That's an asinine claim...
 
lol..if trump had told this story you would be accusing him of pedaling snake oil. funny how that works-eh?

Poking the bear!!!
 
That's cuz he's a stud. It's his stud money. It may not even be from the gov'ment. It's just for being a stud.



I heard Trump supporters get theirs first, and then Trump supports get Hillary supporters' checks later.



What makes you so sure? Did you all get tested? When did you have it?
Like a month or more ago. Started with gastro like bad. Went to Dr they told me I had stomach flu (a majority of symptoms start with gastro symptoms) which a lot of people don't know. Then I developed sores in my mouth and nose like an infection. It lasted weeks and was def affecting my breathing some. My GF developed a sickness that put her down 3 days then developed a cough that still hasn't completely subsided. After a month it's still there minimally and she also had periods of breathing issues. For people with minimal or less severe symptoms this is what it looks like. I wasn't tested I know I had it lol and prob 1/3 of my work. All out for some days w the same symptoms. That's the carona dog.

This virus has been around they're saying they can trace cases back to last year. Ny supposedly came from Europe and they have documented cases that they now know was the carona from the end of last year.

that said I honestly think Trump and our country has done a good job of limiting contact and trying to keep it from spreading. Give credit where credit's due. If you saw the briefing with Trump in the reporters he gave them the bis. Say what you want about Trump but I think he handled all this pretty well.

The stimulus money all Trump. And you have other countries around the world who followed suit. Let's flood the economy to jump start it. That's Trump business ingenuity
 
Like a month or more ago. Started with gastro like bad. Went to Dr they told me I had stomach flu (a majority of symptoms start with gastro symptoms) which a lot of people don't know. Then I developed sores in my mouth and nose like an infection. It lasted weeks and was def affecting my breathing some. My GF developed a sickness that put her down 3 days then developed a cough that still hasn't completely subsided. After a month it's still there minimally and she also had periods of breathing issues. For people with minimal or less severe symptoms this is what it looks like. I wasn't tested I know I had it lol and prob 1/3 of my work. All out for some days w the same symptoms. That's the carona dog.

This virus has been around they're saying they can trace cases back to last year. Ny supposedly came from Europe and they have documented cases that they now know was the carona from the end of last year.

that said I honestly think Trump and our country has done a good job of limiting contact and trying to keep it from spreading. Give credit where credit's due. If you saw the briefing with Trump in the reporters he gave them the bis. Say what you want about Trump but I think he handled all this pretty well.

The stimulus money all Trump. And you have other countries around the world who followed suit. Let's flood the economy to jump start it. That's Trump business ingenuity
You're a moron if you're claiming to KNOW that what you, your GF, or anyone else had was definitively, irrefutably corona... dog... FFS, I'm glad YOU know more about diagnosing a NOVEL VIRUS better than actual experts with PhDs who have devoted their entire careers to this sort of thing. Who needs that. YOU can diagnose not only your own case, but your GFs case, and ALL your coworkers' cases without ANY actual testing. You're an absolute medical genius! Dr. Freaking-House-level!

Did either of you lose your sense of smell by chance?
 
You're a moron if you're claiming to KNOW that what you, your GF, or anyone else had was definitively, irrefutably corona... dog... FFS, I'm glad YOU know more about diagnosing a NOVEL VIRUS better than actual experts with PhDs who have devoted their entire careers to this sort of thing. Who needs that. YOU can diagnose not only your own case, but your GFs case, and ALL your coworkers' cases without ANY actual testing. You're an absolute medical genius! Dr. Freaking-House-level!

Lol. Thank you, man. Not to mention common viral bronchitis takes 3+ weeks to clear and will usually start with a URI or coryza and/or rhinorrhea which can lead to a sore throat. I love everyone that has had a cough or runny nose in the last 3 months claiming theyve already had covid and it “wasnt shît, bro”. Its hilarious.
 
Lol. Thank you, man. Not to mention common viral bronchitis takes 3+ weeks to clear and will usually start with a URI or coryza and/or rhinorrhea which can lead to a sore throat. I love everyone that has had a cough or runny nose in the last 3 months claiming theyve already had covid and it “wasnt shît, bro”. Its hilarious.
I swear man, the Dunning-Kruger effect is running more rampant than the virus. Suddenly everyone is an expert enough to diagnose the virus themselves with zero testing.
 
I swear man, the Dunning-Kruger effect is running more rampant than the virus. Suddenly everyone is an expert enough to diagnose the virus themselves with zero testing.
my friend went to ER yesterday[cut his finger on a jigsaw]...he said everyone had to get temperature checked outside door before entering...what would have happened if he had a fever?
 
You're a moron if you're claiming to KNOW that what you, your GF, or anyone else had was definitively, irrefutably corona... dog... FFS, I'm glad YOU know more about diagnosing a NOVEL VIRUS better than actual experts with PhDs who have devoted their entire careers to this sort of thing. Who needs that. YOU can diagnose not only your own case, but your GFs case, and ALL your coworkers' cases without ANY actual testing. You're an absolute medical genius! Dr. Freaking-House-level!

Did either of you lose your sense of smell by chance?
Yep lost sense of smell and taste

I'm no moron bro, I think I'm quite intelligent. And I don't need a test to tell me what I already know.

So guess what? Your opinion of what you think means less than nothing to me haha. So **** you and the dick you rode in on you self righteous know it all mother fcker
 
You're a moron if you're claiming to KNOW that what you, your GF, or anyone else had was definitively, irrefutably corona... dog... FFS, I'm glad YOU know more about diagnosing a NOVEL VIRUS better than actual experts with PhDs who have devoted their entire careers to this sort of thing. Who needs that. YOU can diagnose not only your own case, but your GFs case, and ALL your coworkers' cases without ANY actual testing. You're an absolute medical genius! Dr. Freaking-House-level!

Did either of you lose your sense of smell by chance?
You know what bro you right. You probably going to catch that s*** and die at least you got a 4% chance

Live your life in fear brosef gloom and doom lmao
 
my friend went to ER yesterday[cut his finger on a jigsaw]...he said everyone had to get temperature checked outside door before entering...what would have happened if he had a fever?

They wouldve put a mask on him and probably tested him for covid if he had any symptoms consistent with covid. Perhaps he would’ve been placed in a negative pressure room if they had one available. Maybe another type of special room with physical walls instead of curtains as a divider between patients - depends on your local ER. Nothing more, unless he required it based on his signs and symptoms.
 
Yep lost sense of smell and taste

I'm no moron bro, I think I'm quite intelligent. And I don't need a test to tell me what I already know.

So guess what? Your opinion of what you think means less than nothing to me haha. So **** you and the dick you rode in on you self righteous know it all mother fcker

You know what bro you right. You probably going to catch that s*** and die at least you got a 4% chance

Live your life in fear brosef gloom and doom lmao

Haha. Woah, bud.
 
I am pretty sure I have Covid right now.

I feel fine. 80% of the patients out there have no symptoms. That describes all of my symptoms perfectly. This ain't ****.
 
Yep lost sense of smell and taste

I'm no moron bro, I think I'm quite intelligent. And I don't need a test to tell me what I already know.

So guess what? Your opinion of what you think means less than nothing to me haha. So **** you and the dick you rode in on you self righteous know it all mother fcker
I’m the “self righteous know it all mother f*cker,” yet YOU are the one claiming to be able to not only self-diagnose COVID, but diagnose it in your GF and ALL of your coworkers. That checks out...

You must have an amazing view from that glass house of yours.

“F**k me and the dick I rode in on?” You’re a damn ankle. In other words, you’re three feet lower than a c**t.
 
I am pretty sure I have Covid right now.

I feel fine. 80% of the patients out there have no symptoms. That describes all of my symptoms perfectly. This ain't ****.
Nice bro! Now you can also diagnose all your coworkers who feel fine too! With 80% certainty at least! Boom!
 
This is the perfect way to live in this shut down...simultaneously watch the Trump press briefing on tv with him fighting the press while also reading the steroid forum that has a bunch of roiders verbally devouring one another over talk of the virus!
 
This is the perfect way to live in this shut down...simultaneously watch the Trump press briefing on tv with him fighting the press while also reading the steroid forum that has a bunch of roiders verbally devouring one another over talk of the virus!
Luv this s***. And Trump's a Savage. The guy doesnt fold under pressure whatsoever. Some people are just made different. That's that different 4% most people don't know about haha
 
Lmao why u mad bro?

People all over the country are getting it and getting over it facts. Never tested
Yes, that is true. But YOU do not KNOW that you had it. Or that your GF had it. Or that any of your coworkers had it. People all over the world have terminal cancer that just hasn't been found yet. Does that mean you KNOW you do too just because SOME PEOPLE do? It's nonsense.
 
Yeah. Anyone that volunteers for Nam 5x is a real killer!!!! No wait... he chicken sh*tted out 5x like the p*ssy lick he is.
 
Yeah. Anyone that volunteers for Nam 5x is a real killer!!!! No wait... he chicken sh*tted out 5x like the p*ssy lick he is.
And I quote Trump "I'm not going to wear a mask" lol he's a Savage bro. And he don't take no **** from other countries either. because he has big giant balls and they're made of steel. Unlike most people. so many people hate him because they just can't grasp how somebody has got where he is. He got it off the muscle. RESPECT.

The underdog no one thought he would beat Hillary but look. God could you imagine if Hillary Clinton was President we would all be fucked lol

Pussy lick? That dude would go to war and not bat an eyelash.
 
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