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Anyone ran superdrol without the horrible sides?

B5150 said:
The availability of the products at the local health food supplement store gives some naive consumers the impression that these are less dangerous than an underground or illegal purchase.

Far too many are consuming these products on the ill advice of some retailers check out clerk or stock boy without any idea of what they are taking.

So by sheer volume of consumers and more irresponsibible use there is likely to be more harm than good that come from them.

There is something inherent in the sourcing of an illegal substance than can give someone a sense of greater caution and care that seems to be absent when a consumer can walk up to the local GNC or VitaminShop and purchase an illegal anabolic.

Of course I have no data to support this but I am sure you can get my point and extrapolate something reasonably similar.
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I agree with B, but i'll go a step further and say that I beleive the newer agents ARE more damaging. The main reason I feel this way is that the older ones you mention were developed for medical use. So there were studies, it was used under dr supervision. Granted where these are now produced is questionable as its frequently not a pharmaceutical facility, but the chemistry of creating them is fairly straightforwards. Taking a look at currently designers, literally some of them are just the results of poking around looking at chemical structures of hormones, and then bottling it. So perhaps not inherently more harmful but far higher risk. Take a look at compounds like mdien since I know b will have a voice on this one ;) originally came out as a "stronger than M1T" on paper anabolic, with the manufacturers giving caution to users to not take more than 3 or 4mg. turns out that 12-20mg is a decent effective dose instead.
 
and just to continue babbling :D no safety studies will be done on the new designers as other than a very very few of them (the AMS products, 3-ad, one or two others) none of them are DSHEA compliant, so they are not legally able to be sold as dietary supplements.
 
EasyEJL said:
I agree with B, but i'll go a step further and say that I beleive the newer agents ARE more damaging. The main reason I feel this way is that the older ones you mention were developed for medical use. So there were studies, it was used under dr supervision. Granted where these are now produced is questionable as its frequently not a pharmaceutical facility, but the chemistry of creating them is fairly straightforwards. Taking a look at currently designers, literally some of them are just the results of poking around looking at chemical structures of hormones, and then bottling it. So perhaps not inherently more harmful but far higher risk. Take a look at compounds like mdien since I know b will have a voice on this one ;) originally came out as a "stronger than M1T" on paper anabolic, with the manufacturers giving caution to users to not take more than 3 or 4mg. turns out that 12-20mg is a decent effective dose instead.
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You are correct in the aspect that the old school stuff was developed in many cases for medical purposes and indirectly or consequently when the GP got a hold of them it is exploited for the AA properties far more than the medicinal.

In cases like mdien we have Vida or other data stating X anabolic and X androgenic than such and such. Yet again we don't use or dose for medicinal puposes. We tend to does for an accute response. The accute response may bring accute consequences. With the case of anabolics we tend to dose on the threshold of an accute response.

Similar to my alcohol consumption...medicinal doses were unacceptable. An accute response is the only acceptable response...which also brought accute consequences ;)
 
Excellent posts and points from B & Easy. I read an article recently in MM that addressed something to this nature. Too many people have the mindset of thinking something is safe because it's an OTC product. Plus in many cases, because their friends on the football team got bigger they must too. Like anything I firmly believe that responsible use is fine. But with the growing widespread availability of 17a methyl AAS and some peoples attitudes in regards to the safety, I believe that unfortunately the fallout in the not so distant future may be worse than what many people realize.
 
fochiqua said:
m-drol isn't methylated masteron, it's methylated anadrol it's very easy on the hairline, second only to anavar
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It is methylated Masteron my friend. It can be made from Anadrol as it's basically super saturated Anadrol but it's nothing more than Masteron with a methyl at 17a - though it acts very differently.

Masteron: 2a-methyl-17 beta-hydroxy-5 alpha-androstan-3-one

Superdrol: 2a,17a-dimethyl-17 beta-hydroxy-5 alpha-androstan-3-one
 
My 2c:
I did a four week pulse of M-Drol at 20mg 4 days a week. I put on over 20lbs.
The only side I noticed was increased BP, which would be expected with such a weight gain.
 
Ziquor said:
It is methylated Masteron my friend. It can be made from Anadrol as it's basically super saturated Anadrol but it's nothing more than Masteron with a methyl at 17a - though it acts very differently.

Masteron: 2a-methyl-17 beta-hydroxy-5 alpha-androstan-3-one

Superdrol: 2a,17a-dimethyl-17 beta-hydroxy-5 alpha-androstan-3-one
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