I'm on a NxLabs/nxcare cutting system not the one you talkin about but methyl ripped with methyl test and on workout days anavol hardcore. Well what can I say, I'm loosin weight but I don't realy know it ripped works but that's true about every supp out there is you don't eat clean you will only loose your money. So why did I try it when I had a winner on my side allready, Levi. Reloaded. Cause I got 2 for one on all three products. Like 90 bucks 4 2 ripped 2 test and 2 anavol hardcore. So 4 the review its all right, man its great at the price I paid but at 30 a pop no. Hope it helps. O I'm only on my first bottle of each like 6 days left