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Anybody tried "WinZtrol"?

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I'm trying to lean up, so I got some Juggernaut Nutrition WinZtrol on clearence, anybody tried it or heard anything good or bad? It's supposed to be the Winstrol molecule minus the c17-alkylation, but replaced with a THP ether for higher oral delivery. I'm not a chemist, so I don't know if this is BS or not. I found two chem names for Winstrol, the first is from the Mesomorphosis website, the second from Wikipedia, the last is the Juggernaut Nutrition product:

2'H-Androst-2-eno(3,2-c)pyrazol-17-ol, 17-methyl-, (5alpha,17beta)
7β-Hydroxy-17-methyl-5α-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol

Does this seem legit?
 
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I'm trying to lean up, so I got some Juggernaut Nutrition WinZtrol on clearence, anybody tried it or heard anything good or bad? It's supposed to be the Winstrol molecule minus the c17-alkylation, but replaced with a THP ether for higher oral delivery. I'm not a chemist, so I don't know if this is BS or not. I found two chem names for Winstrol, the first is from the Mesomorphosis website, the second from Wikipedia, the last is the Juggernaut Nutrition product:

2'H-Androst-2-eno(3,2-c)pyrazol-17-ol, 17-methyl-, (5alpha,17beta)
7β-Hydroxy-17-methyl-5α-androstano[3,2-c]pyrazole
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol

Does this seem legit?


It is just winstrol without the methyl group. The biovailability is pretty low so you need to dose it pretty high. Assuming body weight of around 200 I would say you need at least 200mg stacked with another compound or 300mg if ran solo.

I have read 400mg equates to around 50mg winstrol
 
Pretty weak, IMO. Need to stack it with something else. I don't think it's results are groundbreaking.
 
i ran an equivalent, Mega-Zol. I ran up to 250mg ed and noticed no gains. I got a slight tightening feeling for a few days that's it.

I wouldn't run it alone, too weak. It should be stacked and yeah prolly around 300+ mg ed because 250 was nothing for me...
 
Thanks everybody. I know way more about the real stuff than I do this class of supps, and this forum has helped, but all the different names kinda run together after a while. The consensus is that WinZtrol alone is worthless, but here's what I'm using right now:

WinZtrol (2x 50mg caps tid) total = 300mg/day
Black Dragon TrenV-700 (1x 35mg cap tid) total = 105mg/day
11-Oxo [3 caps (225mg) bid] total = 550mg

(TrenV is 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17 dione)

Does this look like a worthwhile stack?

I have a BB background, done a couple of shows, and I have plenty of muscle. I don't care about strength or weight gains. I just need to drop about 20lbs of jiggly stuff that snuck up on me while I was married. Im a firefighter so I need practical, functional strength with good endurance and cardio. And before anybody tells me to clean up my diet and train hard (I know it's coming because that's the 1st thing I would tell someone else), thanks, but I've got it covered. Been doing this for almost 20 yrs
 
Thanks everybody. I know way more about the real stuff than I do this class of supps, and this forum has helped, but all the different names kinda run together after a while. The consensus is that WinZtrol alone is worthless, but here's what I'm using right now:

WinZtrol (2x 50mg caps tid) total = 300mg/day
Black Dragon TrenV-700 (1x 35mg cap tid) total = 105mg/day
11-Oxo [3 caps (225mg) bid] total = 550mg

(TrenV is 19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17 dione)

Does this look like a worthwhile stack?

I have a BB background, done a couple of shows, and I have plenty of muscle. I don't care about strength or weight gains. I just need to drop about 20lbs of jiggly stuff that snuck up on me while I was married. Im a firefighter so I need practical, functional strength with good endurance and cardio. And before anybody tells me to clean up my diet and train hard (I know it's coming because that's the 1st thing I would tell someone else), thanks, but I've got it covered. Been doing this for almost 20 yrs
that looks like it should work for yah. get that diet straight and maybe throw in a OTC fat burner with it. Cardio 3x a week.
 
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