Its like the cartoon looking rich piana said so many guys see one thing on a forum or their mate tells them & there you have it , alot of eddie experts who know **** all but think they know it all ! Alot of young 17- 18 + yr olds are juicing , its a domino effect because they have a buddy who is , most dunno what to take or what it does , but since everyone else is doing it .... They jump on the band wagon too . Cheers for the input guys . Nice thred onion knight , i'll keep taking mine together i reckon .