any chance for bulk 1,4ad powder

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what about BULK X-mass

The active compound in X-MASS is the real deal, 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one. Most are aware of this structure now, but it is definitely worth including in the Generic Labz offerings. This powerful said to be Tren-like product is legal because it is a progestin.

i dont think this one is tren like in the least... yes it too is a progestin but its a very wet compound..... now maybe if you were talking bout the compound in finigen-x M then that is VERY tren like.
 
best thing to do is get a pocket scale for like 20 bucks. After you cap your first batch of caps, weigh a couple of them (the weight of the actual gelcap is negligable). Assume that's gonna be the weight of the rest.

Actually I believe '0' caps weigh around 75-90mg while '00' caps weigh in at 100-125mg. I could be grossly mistaken but this what I recall. I could bring some caps to work and have them weighed to verify. Or perhaps B5150 could weigh his empty caps and let us know.
 
Actually I believe '0' caps weigh around 75-90mg while '00' caps weigh in at 100-125mg. I could be grossly mistaken but this what I recall. I could bring some caps to work and have them weighed to verify. Or perhaps B5150 could weigh his empty caps and let us know.
'0' caps weigh 94mg
 
Without having to read 24 pages to get the answer, willl someone please post an average dosing schedule for the
1,4 AD?

I was guessing 300 mg @ 2x/day

More???

Thank you much
 
My mistake...I thought M1,4 was banned.
 
Actually I believe '0' caps weigh around 75-90mg while '00' caps weigh in at 100-125mg. I could be grossly mistaken but this what I recall. I could bring some caps to work and have them weighed to verify. Or perhaps B5150 could weigh his empty caps and let us know.

I forgot. I tare weight with an empty cap. (it's been a while since I've had to figure out how much is in a cap).
 
Is this going to be available at a later date, or is this going to be the first and final run as implied by the information at NP???
 
Is this going to be available at a later date, or is this going to be the first and final run as implied by the information at NP???

I would assume that "First and final run. Extremely limited quantities, priced to move...while supplies last!" means just that. Unless this is another one of dsade's sick jokes. :D
 
well with the overwhelming demand that has been shown i wouldnt doubt if we see it again....

n i already got mine!!! i live in cali and it wasnt supposed to be here till the 28th??? thanks fed ex!!!
 
well with the overwhelming demand that has been shown i wouldnt doubt if we see it again....

n i already got mine!!! i live in cali and it wasnt supposed to be here till the 28th??? thanks fed ex!!!


Got mine today, too. Dsade or someone owes me, because my wife was seriously pissed. She ok'd the purchase and gave me a $100 limit, but when I came walking up the stairs with a big smile on my face carrying that tiny ass box, she was not happy. She was like, "You spent $100 on that, please tell me you are joking."

I started laughing and opened it up. I showed her the tiny bottle it came in, and kept on laughing. Good times. :toofunny:

Got 60g by the way. Hope there is a second run, I would like to grab some more if I like it. I will probably just run a 60 day cycle @ 1g daily.
 
Without having to read 24 pages to get the answer, willl someone please post an average dosing schedule for the
1,4 AD?

I was guessing 300 mg @ 2x/day

More???

Thank you much

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alright i just packed all of my 30g of powder and it turns out this powder is denser then B5150's batch... 275mg fits into a "1" cap packed
 
alright i just packed all of my 30g of powder and it turns out this powder is denser then B5150's batch... 275mg fits into a "1" cap packed

howlong did this take you.

is it sticky or ok to cap?

cuz i get mine on monday even though package is only 5miles away it wont be delivered till then basturds.
 
Sweet mine came today...already capped a lot of it (taurine works great as filler as dsade suggested btw).

Though I have a question about my cycle in 2 weeks: I never ran 1,4ad before and wanted to know if I should run 800mg/day for 12weeks or do what I said before and do 600mg for the first 6 weeks then 800mgs last 6?

Also I am using the rest of havoc at 10mg a day first 4 weeks so tryign to finalize the cycle. Thanks
 
bout 45min to an hour and i have about 110 caps.... so i just had to fill the tray twice.... and then get the exces powder and fill the last of it. its definately not sticky or hard to do and i have had both pwerfull and cissus wich can be very sticky... although i dont suggest you lick your finger after... BLEH... had to get a mean drink after that.
 
bout 45min to an hour and i have about 110 caps.... so i just had to fill the tray twice.... and then get the exces powder and fill the last of it. its definately not sticky or hard to do and i have had both pwerfull and cissus wich can be very sticky... although i dont suggest you lick your finger after... BLEH... had to get a mean drink after that.

you didnt use any filler right just filled up small caps

thats interesting about taste too. someone mentioned its not that bad. o well hehe
 
well its not BAAAAAAD like some others ive taasted but its still not pleasant by any means.

and ya i filled em no filler in "1" caps
 
bout 45min to an hour and i have about 110 caps.... so i just had to fill the tray twice.... and then get the exces powder and fill the last of it. its definately not sticky or hard to do and i have had both pwerfull and cissus wich can be very sticky... although i dont suggest you lick your finger after... BLEH... had to get a mean drink after that.

So 30g in the #1s at 275mg gave you 110 caps, what do you think the #00s would yeild with no filler/tamping/packing? There have been a couple of posts, but you've actually handled THIS powder, so I thought you might be able to help.

Im new to this aspect, and have never capped my own anything.

How delicate are these caps anyway, once theyre filled, do they stay tight, or can they pop open or come apart??
 
So 30g in the #1s at 275mg gave you 110 caps, what do you think the #00s would yeild with no filler/tamping/packing? There have been a couple of posts, but you've actually handled THIS powder, so I thought you might be able to help.

Im new to this aspect, and have never capped my own anything.

How delicate are these caps anyway, once theyre filled, do they stay tight, or can they pop open or come apart??

well im sorry on this one... i have no experience with the comparison between "00" caps and hte "1" caps.... i only have the "0" and "1" capping tray and supplies.... so if anyone else can fill theyre "00" cap with a ml dropper so the bottom half is full then let me know we can make a ratio correlation and do the math.... the "1"cap wll hold .5ml and the "0" cap will hold .75ml.... so IF the "00" cap can hold a full ml THEN it would be approx double the dose per cap.... can anyone chime in on this???

if thats so then i would definately suggest using a filler at an equal amount (1:1) volume wise. so find out how much it takes of filler to fill a single cap and cut that in half multiply that by the amount of caps you want to fill then mix the powder and shake...

as for the caps themself they are very durable wont be likely to crack or anything unless you mash on em harsh but puttin them together is a breeze....


and i recounted i only got 109.5 caps... so my caps are about +275mg each...
 
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well im sorry on this one... i have no experience with the comparison between "00" caps and hte "1" caps.... i only have the "0" and "1" capping tray and supplies.... so if anyone else can fill theyre "00" cap with a ml dropper so the bottom half is full then let me know we can make a ratio correlation and do the math.... the "1"cap wll hold .5ml and the "0" cap will hold .75ml.... so IF the "00" cap can hold a full ml THEN it would be approx double the dose per cap.... can anyone chime in on this???

if thats so then i would definately suggest using a filler at an equal amount (1:1) volume wise. so find out how much it takes of filler to fill a single cap and cut that in half multiply that by the amount of caps you want to fill then mix the powder and shake...

as for the caps themself they are very durable wont be likely to crack or anything unless you mash on em harsh but puttin them together is a breeze.

cool thanks for sharing i can let you know monday and maybe include pics
 
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and i recounted i only got 109.5 caps... so my caps are about 273mg each...

Thanks for the information, Im probably going with the #0 anyway, since I want to order from Nutra, I found the size 1 kit elsewhere for about the same price, but Im looking to get something like 300-400 mg per cap, for 3/day, if I have to go 500mg then thats what i will do, like I said Im new to the capping thing.
 
well ACTUALLY the tray for both the "1" caps and the "0" caps is the same thing... you just have to get the "1" caps seperate.... but with the amounts you want to use the "0" caps should be perfect.
 
well ACTUALLY the tray for both the "1" caps and the "0" caps is the same thing... you just have to get the "1" caps seperate.... but with the amounts you want to use the "0" caps should be perfect.

wait really. 0 and 1 cap trays are same size just humm seems odd but in other words

i ordered a 0 and 00 capping kits with extra caps. if i find 1size caps i can use the 0 capping kit?
 
wait really. 0 and 1 cap trays are same size just humm seems odd but in other words

i ordered a 0 and 00 capping kits with extra caps. if i find 1size caps i can use the 0 capping kit?

actually.... maybe not.... if it fits 00 then im not so sure its the same tray... mine is the 0 tray and it fits 1's with a lil slop....
 
well im sorry on this one... i have no experience with the comparison between "00" caps and hte "1" caps.... i only have the "0" and "1" capping tray and supplies.... so if anyone else can fill theyre "00" cap with a ml dropper so the bottom half is full then let me know we can make a ratio correlation and do the math.... the "1"cap wll hold .5ml and the "0" cap will hold .75ml.... so IF the "00" cap can hold a full ml THEN it would be approx double the dose per cap.... can anyone chime in on this???


00 caps hold .95 mL so it will be pretty close to double a "1" cap.
 
Those math skills of mine pay off once in a while ;)

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Wait...so this is 1,4 ad? 1+4=5...so this is the same as 5-AD?:think:
 
wait really. 0 and 1 cap trays are same size just humm seems odd but in other words

i ordered a 0 and 00 capping kits with extra caps. if i find 1size caps i can use the 0 capping kit?

no - the trays are unique, but 0 & 1 share a tamper, as do 00 & 000.
 
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Just capped up a batch of #1s, and here's how it went:

it's a semi-crystalline granulation & not a true powder, so it's very easy to work with: pours easily, very little 'dust' sticking to things, practically self-tamping. I poured it on, scraped to distributei, and after a sharp rap on the frame to help it settle, the tamper had no work to do.

dsade - my compliments to the chef! :thumbsup:

After taring out the weight of the capsules, I got exactly 15 grams into 50 #1 caps @ 300mg each.

materials & equipment
standard bulk #1 capsules (probably from Cap-M-Quik)
Cap-M-Quik #1 frame & tamper
scale precision .10 g
NP's now-sold-out 1,4AD
 
crap!!!!!! its outta stock already... i just got back and its goneeee.. how long till we get more?

The rest of the first batch (apparently they just sent us a partial) should be shipping sometime this coming week. It takes a few days to clear customs, then get to Georgia....so probably 2 weeks?
 
so it looks like 275-300mg per "1" caps.... my 30g gave me 110 caps with not tamper and top off. (still tampered just to keep the powder in just didnt top off....
 
so it looks like 275-300mg per "1" caps.... my 30g gave me 110 caps with not tamper and top off. (still tampered just to keep the powder in just didnt top off....

Just capped 50 of them (took me all of 10 minutes. This stuff is extremely easy to cap). My scale has dead batteries, but it looks to be around 600mg per 00.

The powder is dense (similar to piracetam) so tamping won't gain you a whole lot of room. This stuff is a pleasure to work with.
 
After taring out the weight of the capsules, I got exactly 15 grams into 50 #1 caps @ 300mg each.
I know I mentioned 200mg into '1' caps. I thought that was what I got in them. I may very well be wrong, as I was going on memory and it seems like it may have betrayed me.

I know 400mg goes into '0' caps as I just did them a few days ago. I did not have any more '1' caps to test out. Based on what BW just stated I was wrong. Add the fact that if you look at the scale of the caps, the '1' caps are not half the volume of the '0' caps.

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Just for sh1ts and giggles, BW got 300mg into '1' caps and I got 400mg into '0' caps. Based on volumes of .50ml and .68ml respectively it looks like 1,4 is ~600mg/ml compressed.
 

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Seems like this will work out well for 800 mg/day

I have taurine which is 750 mg per 1/4 tsp
1,4 AD is 700 mg per 1/4 tsp.

Mixing them in equal amounts would yield 266 mg of 1,4 AD per 00 cap. Take 3/day = 798 mg.
 
alright ill be getting 50 grams... can u freeze it? if yes should u freeze it capped or just powder?

I would freeze the powder only...capsules do not like the freezer.
 
Sweet mine came today...already capped a lot of it (taurine works great as filler as dsade suggested btw).

Though I have a question about my cycle in 2 weeks: I never ran 1,4ad before and wanted to know if I should run 800mg/day for 12weeks or do what I said before and do 600mg for the first 6 weeks then 800mgs last 6?

Also I am using the rest of havoc at 10mg a day first 4 weeks so tryign to finalize the cycle. Thanks

I would run minimum of 800mg per day the whole 12 weeks.
 
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