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Unanswered Anxious for this cycle to Begin...

Codybenz said:
Actually it’s more than twice as anabolic than Test. It may be twice as strong on paper but DHB is already 5 alpha reduced. It doesn’t convert to any other hormones in the body. So it stays DHB. Unlike test that is converted to several other things.

That being said this is my first Run with it so the verdict is still out. I’m losing fat not eating to gain right now so I can’t speak from personal experience on the size aspect. However I have had a lot more people talk about how great it is than say that’s it is junk. In fact you are the first one I have heard talk bad about DHB. And you just came in blasting it too. I kinda thought you were trolling at first. Probably would have been better received if your approach was different.

At this point I’m thinking you probably weigh 150 soaking wet and still use your moms credit card to buy your supplements. How many times have you run DHB? Hopefully you didn’t have 1 bad run with it and say it sucks. Was it real DHB? Was your training and diet crap? Maybe you just don’t respond to it, that happens, some people don’t respond to certain drugs. Doesn’t make the drug garbage.
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You kids hear have quite the imagination! Well I am actually 5’10” 195lbs 12% bf I’m also 44 years old and have been on trt for 8 years. So gimme a break without your AAS knowledge.
I have used DHB twice one time it put me in the hospital because of a hematoma the size of a grapefruit. The gains both times were very underwhelming. As I stated before it does lean you out a little and add a little size. That’s it!

Bottom line it’s not worth the pip. I have been injecting all sorts off AAS over the last 8 years and the pip from DHB was by far the worst. I don’t need to troll ittle boy.
 
ItalOne said:
You kids hear have quite the imagination! Well I am actually 5’10” 195lbs 12% bf I’m also 44 years old and have been on trt for 8 years. So gimme a break without your AAS knowledge.
I have used DHB twice one time it put me in the hospital because of a hematoma the size of a grapefruit. The gains both times were very underwhelming. As I stated before it does lean you out a little and add a little size. That’s it!

Bottom line it’s not worth the pip. I have been injecting all sorts off AAS over the last 8 years and the pip from DHB was by far the worst. I don’t need to troll ittle boy.
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Not worth the pip is an opinion.
You coming in being an unnecessary Dick is a fact.
You’re 44 5’10 and 195 lbs? That’s great, I’m 34 5’10 and 202 lbs. Sounds like we are both small guys.
I was also a nationally ranked Jiu-Jitsu practioner and Martial Arts fighter with Gold medals to prove it. So leave your little boy comment at the door.

Bottom Line is it sounds like you’re too big of a pussy to handle the PIP.

Sorry admins if this is out of line. Something about this guy ticked me off.
 
Codybenz said:
Not worth the pip is an opinion.
You coming in being an unnecessary Dick is a fact.
You’re 44 5’10 and 195 lbs? That’s great, I’m 34 5’10 and 202 lbs. Sounds like we are both small guys.
I was also a nationally ranked Jiu-Jitsu practioner and Martial Arts fighter with Gold medals to prove it. So leave your little boy comment at the door.

Bottom Line is it sounds like you’re too big of a pussy to handle the PIP.

Sorry admins if this is out of line. Something about this guy ticked me off.
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Wow you have gold medals from the special olympics. Props!! I’m not a body builder brah.
I’m more into snowboarding, surfing, and skateboarding. Unlike you I don’t wax my balls and take melatonin and spray tan. That is whack!! I know for a fact I can handle much more pain then you. Enjoy that spray tan and manties. Lmao i
 
ItalOne said:
Wow you have gold medals from the special olympics. Props!! I’m not a body builder brah.
I’m more into snowboarding, surfing, and skateboarding. Unlike you I don’t wax my balls and take melatonin and spray tan. That is whack!! I know for a fact I can handle much more pain then you. Enjoy that spray tan and manties. Lmao i
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😂 , So that was actually a funny comment, and my gold medal comment was a little douchey.
My sister in law however has won gold medals from the special olympics so she has accomplished more than both of us together.
I’m not a bodybuilder either, and I’m assuming in your comment you meant Melanotan 2, not melatonin. Not sure why you would suggest mixing a sleep aid and a spray tan. But I’m sure that with all of your DHB knowledge that was a mistake you will go back and edit.

You’re also apparently omniscient since you know for a FACT you can handle more pain than somebody you never met.

Make sure you wear your helmet doing those activities, you can’t afford to lose anymore brain function.
 
Codybenz said:
Not worth the pip is an opinion.
You coming in being an unnecessary Dick is a fact.
You’re 44 5’10 and 195 lbs? That’s great, I’m 34 5’10 and 202 lbs. Sounds like we are both small guys.
I was also a nationally ranked Jiu-Jitsu practioner and Martial Arts fighter with Gold medals to prove it. So leave your little boy comment at the door.

Bottom Line is it sounds like you’re too big of a pussy to handle the PIP.

Sorry admins if this is out of line. Something about this guy ticked me off.
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I’m not looking forward to the pip to be honest. Didn’t stop me from buying 60ml’s of it though. Once you get your armpit tattooed for 3 hours you stop concerning yourself with what’s going to hurt.

Maybe I’m just a different breed.
When I joined this forum, I humbly soaked up info, showing respect to everyone because I didn’t know who was a veteran or had a couple degrees in ex science/kinesiology/chemistry, or who had been NPC competitor or coach or trainer. If I was reading about guys using a drug that I had used and thought was garbage, I politely wished them well on their cycle and moved on.
I’m surprised he’s in his 40s, because the arrogant, exclamation-riddled know-it-all proclamations are exactly what the 19 year olds do when they get on here.
I just don’t want to be like that at all. Pride, ego, and braggery are some of the worst parts of being human, and I want to evolve into more.
 
Yeah I should have just ignored him like I do most people, something about him just rubbed me the wrong way.
 
Matthersby said:
I’m not looking forward to the pip to be honest. Didn’t stop me from buying 60ml’s of it though. Once you get your armpit tattooed for 3 hours you stop concerning yourself with what’s going to hurt.

Maybe I’m just a different breed.
When I joined this forum, I humbly soaked up info, showing respect to everyone because I didn’t know who was a veteran or had a couple degrees in ex science/kinesiology/chemistry, or who had been NPC competitor or coach or trainer. If I was reading about guys using a drug that I had used and thought was garbage, I politely wished them well on their cycle and moved on.
I’m surprised he’s in his 40s, because the arrogant, exclamation-riddled know-it-all proclamations are exactly what the 19 year olds do when they get on here.
I just don’t want to be like that at all. Pride, ego, and braggery are some of the worst parts of being human, and I want to evolve into more.
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Sums it all up. I was surprised how he popped on and responded. Definitely doesn't sound my age.
 
Feeling like the flu is coming on...I guess my body is like hold on buddy...you just put 800mg if androgens in me this week.
 
That sucks buddy. Hopefully it only last a day or too. I hear that happens right before your skin turns green and you transform into the hulk
 
khall1974 said:
Feeling like the flu is coming on...I guess my body is like hold on buddy...you just put 800mg if androgens in me this week.
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I’m running 600npp, and 800test. Just doing it differently for some reason lately. I’m a low test advocate, I just want some oooomph with this run. I typically would be 200T/450npp so this is a lot for me. I soak through my sheets at night and I’ve been feeling hateful almost. Like people are disgusting me. It’s weird, not sure I love it, but my body is changing quickly. Probably the only time I’ll run high test with a 19nor but how can I say not to do it/or do it, if I haven’t done it?
Excited to see what 275 lbs looks like on me.
Gonna be an exciting 2020.
Enjoy your run bro!
 
Codybenz said:
That sucks buddy. Hopefully it only last a day or too. I hear that happens right before your skin turns green and you transform into the hulk
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Hope it will pass soon and then I can hulk out. Still debating how I want to do this run...maybe recomp
 
My cycle experience isn’t nearly what y’alls is, but I like the way I feel on high test. Depending on how this DHB treats me this go around, I’m thinking I might run 600 test 400dhb and some orals on the front and backend of a 16 week bulk starting in October.

Deca doesn’t agree with me, so I’m out on the 19nors.
 
Matthersby said:
I’m running 600npp, and 800test. Just doing it differently for some reason lately. I’m a low test advocate, I just want some oooomph with this run. I typically would be 200T/450npp so this is a lot for me. I soak through my sheets at night and I’ve been feeling hateful almost. Like people are disgusting me. It’s weird, not sure I love it, but my body is changing quickly. Probably the only time I’ll run high test with a 19nor but how can I say not to do it/or do it, if I haven’t done it?
Excited to see what 275 lbs looks like on me.
Gonna be an exciting 2020.
Enjoy your run bro!
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Thanks for the uplifting post...that dude was bringing me down...still surprised we are the same age. Lol Good luck on your run.
 
Codybenz said:
My cycle experience isn’t nearly what y’alls is, but I like the way I feel on high test. Depending on how this DHB treats me this go around, I’m thinking I might run 600 test 400dhb and some orals on the front and backend of a 16 week bulk starting in October.

Deca doesn’t agree with me, so I’m out on the 19nors.
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A lot of trial and error mixed with an insane amount of log reading brings about different views and opinions. One thing I can tell you is expect more pronounced sides from from your builder compound when you run higher test. If you’re prepared for it, it’s totally fine for whatever the added benefit of more test is for you. It’s somewhat progressive thinking since all traditional aas protocols were run high as hell test with your nandrolones so your dick works, run high test with your Tren for xyz reasons.
What many of us have discovered is only a TRT dose will maintain these functions just fine. You can then push your builder or cutter compounds higher and get more of the desired effect from it with lower sides. Does everyone agree? Not really. I can tell you when I run 750 test with Dbol and I’m eating 5mg Letro a day, that shits getting old, or trying to push my Trest dose to its sweet spot but I’m burning through $50/week in Raloxifene.
And this is very much a good thing when you want to get something as Anabolic as Trest to a point where it’s slabbing muscle on you week after week. I know I can’t personally do this until I’m under 250mg Test. And over that dose gives me no noticeable increase in muscle anyways.. but when I get Trest over 200mg/week, I put on stupid amounts of weight.
Just food for thought as you continue your cycling experience. It may not make a difference to you and the higher test could be way more enjoyable on your runs for you. There’s a handful of us with 30+ blasts/cycles that have got more bang for our buck with actually reducing test to ramp up the other compounds.
 
khall1974 said:
Thanks for the uplifting post...that dude was bringing me down...still surprised we are the same age. Lol Good luck on your run.
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I love positivity in my life. I’ve been through some terrible **** and only want good vibes and I still, after 10 years, love coming on here to support my Bros/friends in what they’re doing with this bizarre hobby of ours.
Ya I’ve read 5000+ posts and have tried probably 80% of aas both legal and illegal over the years, but every time I get on AM, I learn something and realize how little I know and how inexperienced I actually am. There’s some brilliant guys on here that I love learn from. I couldn’t imagine talking my experience with aas to try to sound elitist or talk down to guys learning more about it. That wasn’t my experience here. I had hella good guys happy to share their experience and knowledge with me and now 10 years later I have some sound advice to give. All anecdotal and my personal experience but anything that may helpful, I’m happy to share.
 
Matthersby said:
I love positivity in my life. I’ve been through some terrible **** and only want good vibes and I still, after 10 years, love coming on here to support my Bros/friends in what they’re doing with this bizarre hobby of ours.
Ya I’ve read 5000+ posts and have tried probably 80% of aas both legal and illegal over the years, but every time I get on AM, I learn something and realize how little I know and how inexperienced I actually am. There’s some brilliant guys on here that I love learn from. I couldn’t imagine talking my experience with aas to try to sound elitist or talk down to guys learning more about it. That wasn’t my experience here. I had hella good guys happy to share their experience and knowledge with me and now 10 years later I have some sound advice to give. All anecdotal and my personal experience but anything that may helpful, I’m happy to share.
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And I for one thank you for it
 
Matthersby said:
How often are you guys injecting DHB? Being cyp ester, anyone brave enough to just pin 3cc’s at a time every 5 days or so? Or is it easier to just break it up into 1.5-2cc injections at a time? Smaller = better ?
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I’m doing 2.5cc E3D at this point.
 
ItalOne said:
Waiting to see those HUGE GAINS?
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Well I’m about five weeks into my first DHB run since before Michael Jackson died.... and so far I’ve gone from about 211 to 230.

So I guess you’re just a bit of a prat, huh?
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I hit a nerve yesterday. First time ever. Hope I never do that again
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I completely stopped pinning quads because I constantly hit nerves. Worst most annoying feeling like a little jolt of lightning down your leg. Hate it. I would pull the needle out and restick if it happened.
 
Old Witch said:
Well I’m about five weeks into my first DHB run since before Michael Jackson died.... and so far I’ve gone from about 211 to 230.

So I guess you’re just a bit of a prat, huh?
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Dated before and after photos or it never happen. I gained 40lb on DHEA !! Lmao 😂
 
Codybenz said:
😂 , So that was actually a funny comment, and my gold medal comment was a little douchey.
My sister in law however has won gold medals
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Codybenz said:
😂 , So that was actually a funny comment, and my gold medal comment was a little douchey.
My sister in law however has won gold medals from the special olympics so she has accomplished more than both of us together.
I’m not a bodybuilder either, and I’m assuming in your comment you meant Melanotan 2, not melatonin. Not sure why you would suggest mixing a sleep aid and a spray tan. But I’m sure that with all of your DHB knowledge that was a mistake you will go back and edit.

You’re also apparently omniscient since you know for a FACT you can handle more pain than somebody you never met.

Make sure you wear your helmet doing those activities, you can’t afford to lose anymore brain function.
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How ironic, coming from someone that has never met either me yet was the first one to talk crap about handling pip. Thank god your helmet never comes off.
 
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Matthersby said:
I completely stopped pinning quads because I constantly hit nerves. Worst most annoying feeling like a little jolt of lightning down your leg. Hate it. I would pull the needle out and restick if it happened.
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First time I pinned left glute, hit a nerve and almost fell on my ass lol. Not cool man. BTW if OP's asscheek doesn't fall off from this apparently unbearable PIP you guys may have sold me on DHB at some point in the near future. What's that, Trest? You'll get your turn too, hush now....
 
ItalOne said:
How ironic, coming from someone that has never met either me yet was the first one to talk crap about handling pip. Thank god your helmet never comes off.
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I’m not sure why you feel the need to be an asshole, but you were the one that said you couldn’t tolerate the pip.
 
ItalOne said:
Wow you have gold medals from the special olympics. Props!! I’m not a body builder brah.
I’m more into snowboarding, surfing, and skateboarding. Unlike you I don’t wax my balls and take melatonin and spray tan. That is whack!! I know for a fact I can handle much more pain then you. Enjoy that spray tan and manties. Lmao i
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Melatonin? Rofl...

I think you meant melanotan.
 
Old Witch said:
Yikes. No fun. At full speed too I bet? That’ll wake a guy up!
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Yeah, definitely a Wake-Up Shot. Pushed in like always and it felt like I just stuck a fork in a wall socket all the way down my leg. Will never forget that one.
 
Do you think ice or heat after pinning to reduce pip? I think heat cause wouldn't the heat increase absorption and cold would slow it down. Thoughts??
 
khall1974 said:
Do you think ice or heat after pinning to reduce pip? I think heat cause wouldn't the heat increase absorption and cold would slow it down. Thoughts??
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Some guys like to heat before pinning. Stuff usually dissolves better in warmer liquids.
 
I used a heat pad after knot showed up week 1, but I don’t know if it helped. Haven’t tried right after pinning.
 
As of today both glutes are shot...too much swelling. It sucks having both feel bad. No matter how I sit or lay I am in pain. Will just inject test in another site and let them heal. Next go round will really heat the oil up and pray.
 
khall1974 said:
As of today both glutes are shot...too much swelling. It sucks having both feel bad. No matter how I sit or lay I am in pain. Will just inject test in another site and let them heal. Next go round will really heat the oil up and pray.
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Do the VGs. It’s much less painful. Also, you might have gone a bit too low if you’re sitting on them at all angles.
 
Yeah I don’t think my wife is pinning the “ventral glute” as it’s called. Just the standard glute injection they used to teach in medical school
 
Codybenz said:
Yeah I don’t think my wife is pinning the “ventral glute” as it’s called. Just the standard glute injection they used to teach in medical school
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Ya, what OW is saying. Go all the way up to the belt line, higher if you have big glutes..
I barely hit VG’s, it’s 80% hip muscle. I don’t sit on **** that I inject at all.
 
Matthersby said:
Ya, what OW is saying. Go all the way up to the belt line, higher if you have big glutes..
I barely hit VG’s, it’s 80% hip muscle. I don’t sit on **** that I inject at all.
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I hit the “love handle” muscle sometimes as well if I’m in a hurry or running out of good spots. It works. It’s still part of the hip if it’s below the anterior pelvic crest...

These dudes probably think we’re nuts, just stabbing ourselves all over...
 
Old Witch said:
I hit the “love handle” muscle sometimes as well if I’m in a hurry or running out of good spots. It works. It’s still part of the hip if it’s below the anterior pelvic crest...

These dudes probably think we’re nuts, just stabbing ourselves all over...
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Oh ya, but once you get it down, there’s soooooooo much surface area to inject pain free several times a week. No more delts, no more quads. I haven’t pinned any area other than VG/Hip in 5 years.
 
Matthersby said:
Oh ya, but once you get it down, there’s soooooooo much surface area to inject pain free several times a week. No more delts, no more quads. I haven’t pinned any area other than VG/Hip in 5 years.
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Yeah, totally. Just watch out for that dhb. After a few pins in the same muscle Even in different spots the pip will fill it up and you can’t get another shot in there. I got through 1 20ml vial and now I’ve had to move to glutes.
 
I hear you guys on pinning the vg. I think I went to high and in. The welts have move to my erectors and it is painful to lay down on them. Will try to aim for the hip on Monday.
 
Matthersby said:
Oh ya, but once you get it down, there’s soooooooo much surface area to inject pain free several times a week. No more delts, no more quads. I haven’t pinned any area other than VG/Hip in 5 years.
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That dhb is another animal...need to give it a shot.
 
Matthersby said:
Oh ya, but once you get it down, there’s soooooooo much surface area to inject pain free several times a week. No more delts, no more quads. I haven’t pinned any area other than VG/Hip in 5 years.
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I'm gonna have to figure it out as well, just ran 2ml Test Ace in one cheek and 1ml of my test/deca/tren in the other (but it swells a lot).....delts are starting to feel like a no-fly-zone.
 
The pip has even change my flexibility in my glutes...them shits are tight. Lol Need to regroup and get it right on Monday.
 
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