Unanswered Anxious for this cycle to Begin...

khall1974

khall1974

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I plan on running tbol 40mg for 7 weeks, DHB 500 and Test E 300 for 12 weeks. My source said how he brews his DHB the PIP should be tolerable. This would be my 2nd cycle...first cycle was 500mg test e 12 weeks and tbol 40mg for 7. I have cycle support and pct on lock. I can't start the cycle until I am up for my bloods in June. Planned on beginning the next 2 weeks. I guess I will try to cut more in anticipation. Am I crazy or is it normal to get this anxious to jump on. Truthfully I can't wait. I told a friend of mine it is close to taking the super soldier formula Captain America took. Currently sitting at 6'2, 230 at 16.5% BF.
 
Yeah, I always get anxious when it gets close, I jumped on the superdrol 2 weeks ago, but I have bloods this Thursday then I can stick. 300 test, 400DHB and some androhard for me.

Knowing it’s getting close is torture, like a kid the night before Christmas.
 
Honestly waiting is the hardest part IMO. The first time I bulk ordered stuff my basic cycle (2compounds) of 12 weeks ended up 16 weeks with Kickstarter and finisher (4compounds) lol. Learned my lesson but dam it was a legit cycle!
 
khall1974 said:
Why??...they compete for the same receptor?
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Lol... what?

That has nothing to do with it.

Your body is constantly looking at its steroid levels, if it’s too high, it makes aromatase.

If you take 800mg of gear, and only half of it is aromatizable, then that half is more susceptible to being aromatized than if it was the only compound. So it needs to be protected.

That 300mg of test E is going to get the full wrath that your body would unleash on 800+ mgs.
 
That makes sense now. I have an ai on hand. Have you had to make bigger adjustments to your ai on your cycle?
 
khall1974 said:
That makes sense now. I have an ai on hand. Have you had to make bigger adjustments to your ai on your cycle?
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Yes. Normally with solo test or test plus an oral kickstart I don’t need an AI up to nearly a gram.

Make 400mgs of that gram be dhb and Ive found taking 25mg Asin the day before pin 1 of the week and 0.5mg Adex directly after pin 2 of the week and now I’m feeling good, strong erections etc.

Hopefully I can drop the Asin.
 
Asin didn't do anything for me...strictly adex. That is what sucks about cycles...finding that fcking sweet spot for your ai.
 
khall1974 said:
Asin didn't do anything for me...strictly adex. That is what sucks about cycles...finding that fcking sweet spot for your ai.
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Yeah it can be pretty annoying especially if you start too soon and crash your E2 with a single dose of Adex 0.25mg and then let it go the other direction until you get ED... (literally exactly what I did)
 
Had to have some patience last cycle and not rush my ai or over do it. Some days I just dealt with the burning and other symptoms and told mysef to let the drugs work it out. Was happy when equilibrium was found
 
Started today...when do you guys think I should incorporate my ai. Last cycle I kept on an eod routine regardless when I pinned. Should I try the day after pin and see how it goes?
 
Well, I take my Adex when I pin and then I take Asin the next day.

Seems to work better than just using more Adex.
 
The pip is tolerable with the 250mg dhb I took yesterday. I just need to get the whole "is this normal pip or is it infected" thought out of my mind. Lol
 
I lied...it feels as if I broke the needle and it is still in there. Lol That is what happens when you pin 3ml in the buttocks
 
Yeah pip isn’t fun and it can last a week or more. However, it’s not as painful as an infection.

I have one spot where for some reason I got really bad pip and it’s been there eight days now.
 
Old Witch said:
Yeah pip isn’t fun and it can last a week or more. However, it’s not as painful as an infection.

I have one spot where for some reason I got really bad pip and it’s been there eight days now.
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8 days...how do you feel when you have to pin that spot again? Is the pip sacrifice worth your dhb run?
 
And yes. DHB is worth the pain.

Tren type results without any of the sides, except some pip. What’s not to love?

Don’t know about y’all, but I’d much rather deal with some pip and swollen knots from dhb than tits and Deca dick from tren or Deca...
 
Old Witch said:
And yes. DHB is worth the pain.

Tren type results without any of the sides, except some pip. What’s not to love?

Don’t know about y’all, but I’d much rather deal with some pip and swollen knots from dhb than tits and Deca dick from tren or Deca...
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I agree completely...afraid to run any 19nors because of that.
 
48 hours later and PIP is reducing. Still there though but not getting any worst. Stretching and kneading it helped. Foam rolling made it feel worse.
 
khall1974 said:
48 hours later and PIP is reducing. Still there though but not getting any worst. Stretching and kneading it helped. Foam rolling made it feel worse.
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That’s good. I have one spot where it’s taken 8 days so far and it’s only now finally getting smaller. Got just as swollen as an infection but not red and hot, not nearly as painful.

The other five or six spots from this dhb are fine. Barely a dime sized knot.
 
Old Witch said:
That’s good. I have one spot where it’s taken 8 days so far and it’s only now finally getting smaller. Got just as swollen as an infection but not red and hot, not nearly as painful.

The other five or six spots from this dhb are fine. Barely a dime sized knot.
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Thinking of heating up oil next and compare
 
The pip is getting better for me but the knots still happen. It’s delayed too, usually about 3 days after
 
Just had a deep tissue massage and that dude kicked my ass. He was really sadistic about it and wouldn't you know it...focused on my freaking glute with the welt. I tried laughing off the pain.
 
khall1974 said:
Just had a deep tissue massage and that dude kicked my ass. He was really sadistic about it and wouldn't you know it...focused on my freaking glute with the welt. I tried laughing off the pain.
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I was wondering the other day what a masseuse would say about one of these lumps in my butt right now. Guess they wouldnt say anything and just try to knead it out. Doesnt sound too fun.
 
I went to an Asian masseuse a week after my first DHB pin which was incredibly painful and huge lump. It was so bad it had my back tight so I told her don’t touch my butt it hurts. She kept poking the lump and talking in Chinese. She talked me into letting her work on it. She spent 45 minutes rubbing on the know with her hand and hot stones. I legit almost passed out from the pain but after 15 minutes or so, it started to feel much better and then felt good, really helped
 
Codybenz said:
I went to an Asian masseuse a week after my first DHB pin which was incredibly painful and huge lump. It was so bad it had my back tight so I told her don’t touch my butt it hurts. She kept poking the lump and talking in Chinese. She talked me into letting her work on it. She spent 45 minutes rubbing on the know with her hand and hot stones. I legit almost passed out from the pain but after 15 minutes or so, it started to feel much better and then felt good, really helped
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This sounds amazing right now.
 
How often are you guys injecting DHB? Being cyp ester, anyone brave enough to just pin 3cc’s at a time every 5 days or so? Or is it easier to just break it up into 1.5-2cc injections at a time? Smaller = better ?
 
The batch I got was 100mg per ml...been pinning 250 plus 150 text E mon and Thursday. That is one 3mls straight in.
 
khall1974 said:
The batch I got was 100mg per ml...been pinning 250 plus 150 text E mon and Thursday. That is one 3mls straight in.
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Stuff with gnarly pip, it’s been my experience that mixing/diluting it with any other gear at all will minimize pip, regardless of increased volume. Don’t know how that would even effect gear in guicanol though.
I’ll pin my test for the week split up into 7 pins if it means mixing with something high concentration in an effort to reduce pip.
 
DHB is garbage!! Anything over 100mg a ML with cause terrible pip. If it’s not causing pip it probably not real DHB. There are so many better options out there that will actually help you build muscle and add size. DHB will only lean you out. Something you can do with diet alone.
 
ItalOne said:
DHB is garbage!! Anything over 100mg a ML with cause terrible pip. If it’s not causing pip it probably not real DHB. There are so many better options out there that will actually help you build muscle and add size. DHB will only lean you out. Something you can do with diet alone.
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Finishing up week 1 here at AM explaining to everyone here how all this is done, eh? Thank you sir, if you hadn’t popped up with your good advice, I may have wasted a lot of time and money on that garbage.
 
Twice as Anabolic as testosterone and minimizes SHBG, all while dropping bodyfat with no noteworthy side effects other than pip.
Sounds like crap.
 
On paper it’s seems perfect! Though it’s not!
It’s almost impossible to find a log with pics where someone is running DHB with a trt dose of test while making great gains. That is the proof to me. No orals, low test what does it really do? Tons of strength and size gains??
Nope!! Incredible fat loss and sense of well being? Nope! No pip? Nope! What does it do on its own. How much size and weight can you add to off set the agonizing pip??
Any logs? Any before and after pics on only DHB and trt. I’ve used it at 500mg week and it was the most painful experience of my life!!
Garbage in real world, besides LEANING OUT, lol big deal!
 
khall1974 said:
Preach on brother...Amen
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Enjoy that pip! 😜 only 11 more weeks.
You will eventually run out of healthy injection sites trying to get up to 500mg wk.
You could have run 200mg of tren ace and make better gains then 500mg of DHB with no pip!
 
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Wait , there are no DHB logs? Holy crap I can’t believe I’m running something with no logs on it. Steroids with no logs on them don’t work at all. I got bambuzzled.

Can you please provide a complete list of all steroids and a list of all logs done on them. I don’t want to make the same mistake twice.
 
Codybenz said:
Wait , there are no DHB logs? Holy crap I can’t believe I’m running something with no logs on it. Steroids with no logs on them don’t work at all. I got bambuzzled.

Can you please provide a complete list of all steroids and a list of all logs done on them. I don’t want to make the same mistake twice.
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CGkone, Old Witch, and 4 guys from this thread, all saying the same things. Loving it, huge gains in both strength and size with zero bloat.
 
Matthersby said:
CGkone, Old Witch, and 4 guys from this thread, all saying the same things. Loving it, huge gains in both strength and size with zero bloat.
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Who said they were making huge gains? Huge gains is like 15-20lbs and nobody here will ever even gain half that on only DHB. Lol but it’s twice as strong as test. Lmao..
 
ItalOne said:
Who said they were making huge gains? Huge gains is like 15-20lbs and nobody here will ever even gain half that on only DHB. Lol but it’s twice as strong as test. Lmao..
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Actually it’s more than twice as anabolic than Test. It may be twice as strong on paper but DHB is already 5 alpha reduced. It doesn’t convert to any other hormones in the body. So it stays DHB. Unlike test that is converted to several other things.

That being said this is my first Run with it so the verdict is still out. I’m losing fat not eating to gain right now so I can’t speak from personal experience on the size aspect. However I have had a lot more people talk about how great it is than say that’s it is junk. In fact you are the first one I have heard talk bad about DHB. And you just came in blasting it too. I kinda thought you were trolling at first. Probably would have been better received if your approach was different.

At this point I’m thinking you probably weigh 150 soaking wet and still use your moms credit card to buy your supplements. How many times have you run DHB? Hopefully you didn’t have 1 bad run with it and say it sucks. Was it real DHB? Was your training and diet crap? Maybe you just don’t respond to it, that happens, some people don’t respond to certain drugs. Doesn’t make the drug garbage.
 
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