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ManBeast said:
I was diagnosed with chronic bronchial asthma as a child, and even on allergy shots, inhaler, and "breathing exercises" I could never get above 60% on a peak-flow meter.
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Have not met anyone else with the same condition.
And nothing seems to really fix it.
The only time I really feel better is in high altitude environments with cold air.
 
ManBeast said:
we're running different sarms though ;) there are three out now: Ostarine, S4, and GW.
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I so want to stack AICAR and GW.
They are also supposed to have neuroprotective benefits as well.
Might just pops some hydergine with it at the moment.

But AICAR has to be pinned and eh, not really digging that.
 
Ok back.... for the update on this:

During week 3 I got *incredibly* lethargic (even when on dexaprine), decided that it was due to being suppressed from the SARM. Stopped it and ran a mini-pct for the rest of the time I was on the dexaprine.

Nothing (and I mean NOTHING) against Recourse, it is a solid product, but it is not powerful enough to prevent suppression from 10mg/day of the GW-sarm.

As a wrap up. I like this product. A lot. It isn't crazy dramatic or drastic, but it does work. It is very helpful, and I'll be using my leftovers for sure at some point.
 
you still about to run hella?
 
ManBeast said:
Ok back.... for the update on this:

During week 3 I got *incredibly* lethargic (even when on dexaprine), decided that it was due to being suppressed from the SARM. Stopped it and ran a mini-pct for the rest of the time I was on the dexaprine.

Nothing (and I mean NOTHING) against Recourse, it is a solid product, but it is not powerful enough to prevent suppression from 10mg/day of the GW-sarm.

As a wrap up. I like this product. A lot. It isn't crazy dramatic or drastic, but it does work. It is very helpful, and I'll be using my leftovers for sure at some point.
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Hrmm. GW isn't a sarm, but you think it shut you down ?? This is new.
 
dallasboy22 said:
Hrmm. GW isn't a sarm, but you think it shut you down ?? This is new.
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... You want to battle ManBeast?
 
Airborne42 said:
... You want to battle ManBeast?
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Battle royal. Two men enter one ManBeast leaves there can be only one highlander
 
GW is a sarm... not sure where you are hearing otherwise.

I pushed my hella cycle back 2 extra weeks. I was able to hit the gym sorta sporadically while dealing with stupid ass real life crap, but I want to have spent more time hitting it right before hopping on a big solid cycle, I'm also toning it down a bit in a few ways. will post an update in the proper thread later.
 
ManBeast said:
GW is a sarm... not sure where you are hearing otherwise.

I pushed my hella cycle back 2 extra weeks. I was able to hit the gym sorta sporadically while dealing with stupid ass real life crap, but I want to have spent more time hitting it right before hopping on a big solid cycle, I'm also toning it down a bit in a few ways. will post an update in the proper thread later.
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Well good update on results, you have been missed buddy. Amazing the impact that is felt when the lack of your presence is endured!
 
hey manbeast. do you think that if you used the gw at a lower dose the lethargy would have been less? i've read here and there that some people dose at 5mg. it's going to be part of my cycle that starts tomorrow. i'm mostly hoping it helps with some fat loss. if i dose at 5 mg i'll have enough for 8 weeks, 10 mg for 4. i'm going to start a separate thread a little later about my new cycle so i can get some feedback. welcome back
 
I'm honestly considering it at 5mg/day for any future uses.
 
ManBeast said:
I'm honestly considering it at 5mg/day for any future uses.
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You think running at this dose will prevent shutdown and need of pct? Also on same topic for another sarm, what dose of mk-2866 u think would be low enough to avoid this but still yield results? And of course, welcome back! You stuck us with airborne as the only pct cop! (he's the bad cop) that last SD run turned him in to the incredible hulk! And we don't like him when he's angry! :)
 
I think it would be much less suppressive at half the dose, while showing decent results. I'm thinking this sarm might be worth adding into an actual cycle if one wanted to use it at 10mg.
 
Oops, yes GW is a sarm, was thinking of something else. Anyways, this is the first I have heard about GW being suppressive though....thought it was an endurance/fat loss sarm that shouldn't cause suppression. Good to know moving forward.
 
ManBeast said:
I think it would be much less suppressive at half the dose, while showing decent results. I'm thinking this sarm might be worth adding into an actual cycle if one wanted to use it at 10mg.
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that's my plan. i'm not worried about the suppression so much as i am about the lethargy you experienced. maybe i'll start with 5 then move up if all is well.
 
the lethargy was from being suppressed (typical low/no test symptoms).
 
ManBeast said:
the lethargy was from being suppressed (typical low/no test symptoms).
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You think a test booster might alleviate this? Like DAA or something? I was thinking of stacking it with Intimidate.
 
A test booster would have no effect while on cycle hence why there is no point to DAA while on cycle, because you have no production of test because your body perceives there already being ample amounts. I wonder if a test base would have helped with the symptoms.

GuyverX said:
You think a test booster might alleviate this? Like DAA or something? I was thinking of stacking it with Intimidate.
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i was on a half-dose of recourse, it was not enough for 10mg of gw-sarm, maybe enough of a booster (full dose DAA + full dose of another test booster) might do better. to help alleviate/prevent suppression.
 
Gerbil said:
A test booster would have no effect while on cycle hence why there is no point to DAA while on cycle, because you have no production of test because your body perceives there already being ample amounts. I wonder if a test base would have helped with the symptoms.
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Would not have thought GW to be suppressive at 10 mg. Did quite a bit of searching on it and did not see those sides.
But s4 and osta were a different story.

Good to know though for future reference.
Might get some stims to combat the lethargy.
And plan some pct to get my levels back afterwards.
 
ManBeast said:
i was on a half-dose of recourse, it was not enough for 10mg of gw-sarm, maybe enough of a booster (full dose DAA + full dose of another test booster) might do better. to help alleviate/prevent suppression.
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That makes sense.
Thanks for logging this. Usually I would stay herbal but heck I'm getting up in age and it is time to try some stronger compounds out.
 
Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you and thanks for logging anyway ManBeast
 
It worked, i just wasn't expecting or prepared for that level of suppression :)
 
ManBeast said:
It worked, i just wasn't expecting or prepared for that level of suppression :)
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I meant something in line with 'worked out as planned' ;-)

And I've got a feeling it wouldn't be a compound for a newbie like me or I would come crying on the boards going "help me i took this and..." LOL
 
I just sub'd this even though it's over FML...
 
lol, new log here:

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odd, i must have gotten a bunk batch of gw because i had no side effects, good or bad. no fat loss, and definitely no aerobic increase. also, not a bit of shutdown. again, im guessing i got a bunk product. sucks cause i could have used the aerobic increase for the Spartan race i ran in lol.
 
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