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AndroMass review. WOW

i thought id keep you lot updated on how my PCT is going. I decided against nolva because i couldnt get hold of any at the time, so i decided to go with Primordial Performance Sustain Alpha & Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support. I thought id throw in some creatine to keep my weight and strength up. I am going to run PCT for a total of 4 weeks.

i finished cycle on 193 lbs

Week 1 - Strength still up, still doing the same reps, sets and weights. At the end of week one i was still 193 lbs.

Week 2- Strength still the same, weight has gone up to 195 lbs, i would put the 2lb gain down to the creatine. One week after the loading phase weight gain is inevitable.

Those are my first 2 weeks far SOOO good. i Will keep you posted on my final 2 weeks.

I HOPE VERSION 3 HAS THE SAME POTENCY.
 
Using both Sustain Alpha and PCS is a tad redundant as they both contain Trans-Res as one of the main components.
 
GetWedge said:
i thought id keep you lot updated on how my PCT is going. I decided against nolva because i couldnt get hold of any at the time, so i decided to go with Primordial Performance Sustain Alpha & Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support. I thought id throw in some creatine to keep my weight and strength up. I am going to run PCT for a total of 4 weeks.

i finished cycle on 193 lbs


Week 1 - Strength still up, still doing the same reps, sets and weights. At the end of week one i was still 193 lbs.

Week 2- Strength still the same, weight has gone up to 195 lbs, i would put the 2lb gain down to the creatine. One week after the loading phase weight gain is inevitable.

Those are my first 2 weeks far SOOO good. i Will keep you posted on my final 2 weeks.

I HOPE VERSION 3 HAS THE SAME POTENCY.
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You're UP 2 weeks pct WTF....lol
 
As homeostasis levels out....obviously keeping that exact weight will be a slightly different body composition, but wow that is exceptional.


Do keep in mind that "scale weight" is not everything as the quality looking back at you in the mirror! Whats next on the future agenda? MASS/BULK stack .....LEAN/HARD stack????


-Matt
 
Yeah GetWedge, id like to see you run a Mass/Bulk cycle in 2012. Get your pct in and prepare for another solid run.
 
How would you guys dose mass/bulk? Something like 3 caps each for 8 weeks? or do one bottle followed by the next 4 weeks each?
 
bigdavid said:
How would you guys dose mass/bulk? Something like 3 caps each for 8 weeks? or do one bottle followed by the next 4 weeks each?
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Use em both at the same time. As far as caps of each.. This is off of our site:



Week 1
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 2
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 3
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 4
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 5
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 6
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 7
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
Week 8
6 AndroBulk + 3 AndroMass*
 
bigdavid said:
How would you guys dose mass/bulk? Something like 3 caps each for 8 weeks? or do one bottle followed by the next 4 weeks each?
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Well, if you're going to stack, you will want to run one of them at full dose and the other at half dose. Otherwise, if you're not willing to get atleast two bottles of one of them (which you'll need to run them full dose for 8 weeks), then just run 1 product for 8 weeks at full dose or both products at full dose for 4 weeks.
 
Rodja said:
Using both Sustain Alpha and PCS is a tad redundant as they both contain Trans-Res as one of the main components.
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yeah i thought about that, when i was buying them, it was more like a panic decision, because i couldnt get hold of any nolva, its doing the trick though lol
 
MattPorter said:
As homeostasis levels out....obviously keeping that exact weight will be a slightly different body composition, but wow that is exceptional.


Do keep in mind that "scale weight" is not everything as the quality looking back at you in the mirror! Whats next on the future agenda? MASS/BULK stack .....LEAN/HARD stack????


-Matt
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"Yeah GetWedge, id like to see you run a Mass/Bulk cycle in 2012. Get your pct in and prepare for another solid run"

yeah the scale weight thing, is something ive been told by a few bodybuilders, i only really take that mirror look on when i cut.. mass/bulk stack is iffy... i am fearful of the water weight that will inevitably come with bulk.. but lean/hard will definately get a run leading up to summer, possibly april time depending on hwo much muscle ive gained. Do you reckon the androseries would ever get banned?
 
GetWedge said:
"Yeah GetWedge, id like to see you run a Mass/Bulk cycle in 2012. Get your pct in and prepare for another solid run"

yeah the scale weight thing, is something ive been told by a few bodybuilders, i only really take that mirror look on when i cut.. mass/bulk stack is iffy... i am fearful of the water weight that will inevitably come with bulk.. but lean/hard will definately get a run leading up to summer, possibly april time depending on hwo much muscle ive gained. Do you reckon the androseries would ever get banned?
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Not unless there is a major change in the landscape of the industry.
 
Isnt Bulk shipping in Janurary?, that means you will be waiting on it then correct?
 
GetWedge said:
"Yeah GetWedge, id like to see you run a Mass/Bulk cycle in 2012. Get your pct in and prepare for another solid run"

yeah the scale weight thing, is something ive been told by a few bodybuilders, i only really take that mirror look on when i cut.. mass/bulk stack is iffy... i am fearful of the water weight that will inevitably come with bulk.. but lean/hard will definately get a run leading up to summer, possibly april time depending on hwo much muscle ive gained. Do you reckon the androseries would ever get banned?
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Just outta curiosity -- what about water weight scares you? Health stand point, appearance stand-point?

As long as you keep bodyfat under control water weight is not an enemy and is actually advantageous when looking to accrue new muscle mass. I would honestly say if you were truly concerned about extra "bloat" with BULK -- run it with hard and be mindful of sodium and keep fluids super high (as they should be anyways)

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Just outta curiosity -- what about water weight scares you? Health stand point, appearance stand-point?

As long as you keep bodyfat under control water weight is not an enemy and is actually advantageous when looking to accrue new muscle mass. I would honestly say if you were truly concerned about extra "bloat" with BULK -- run it with hard and be mindful of sodium and keep fluids super high (as they should be anyways)

-Matt
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^^^Couldn't agree more
 
MattPorter said:
Just outta curiosity -- what about water weight scares you? Health stand point, appearance stand-point?

As long as you keep bodyfat under control water weight is not an enemy and is actually advantageous when looking to accrue new muscle mass. I would honestly say if you were truly concerned about extra "bloat" with BULK -- run it with hard and be mindful of sodium and keep fluids super high (as they should be anyways)

-Matt
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If you're going for some big strength gains, then a bloat is almost essential. It helps to provide extra pressure and support for the core and lubricates the joints more.
 
Don't mind wet at all...
 
MattPorter said:
Just outta curiosity -- what about water weight scares you? Health stand point, appearance stand-point?

As long as you keep bodyfat under control water weight is not an enemy and is actually advantageous when looking to accrue new muscle mass. I would honestly say if you were truly concerned about extra "bloat" with BULK -- run it with hard and be mindful of sodium and keep fluids super high (as they should be anyways)

-Matt
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definately appearance stand point, the bloat in the face, while a water weight will produce bigger mass gains, you tend to keep less afterwards than a "dry" gainer, so i see it as counter-productive, id rather gain half a stone and keep, than a stone and lose 50%.
 
GetWedge said:
definately appearance stand point, the bloat in the face, while a water weight will produce bigger mass gains, you tend to keep less afterwards than a "dry" gainer, so i see it as counter-productive, id rather gain half a stone and keep, than a stone and lose 50%.
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I understand where you are coming from. However-- you may be able to push yourself into new territory of strength gains w/some added fluid retention which could actually enable you to build MORE lean tissue than if you gained less strength on a "drier" cycle.

I would research with GHRP-6 and grf-129 for pCT to keep appetite up post cycle and also to keep that beneficial fluid retention stabilized PCT.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
I understand where you are coming from. However-- you may be able to push yourself into new territory of strength gains w/some added fluid retention which could actually enable you to build MORE lean tissue than if you gained less strength on a "drier" cycle.

I would research with GHRP-6 and grf-129 for pCT to keep appetite up post cycle and also to keep that beneficial fluid retention stabilized PCT.

-Matt
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Nice tips on the peptide research!
 
im about to order in my next cycle of Andromass, i just wanted to know except the Lethargy issue, is version 3 actually more potent in delivering gains? because version 3 is more difficult to get hold of lol
 
GetWedge said:
im about to order in my next cycle of Andromass, i just wanted to know except the Lethargy issue, is version 3 actually more potent in delivering gains? because version 3 is more difficult to get hold of lol
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I will say muscle accrual would be about the same ---but strength would be GREATER with AndroMass v3.

So OVERALL this product is better -- more strength, more sex drive, more energy, mild aromatase protection.

-Matt
 
ok thank you, and final question how do you think the gains will compare with a D-bol and Androhard stack, running the D-bol at 30 mg for 4 weeks and Androhard for 6 weeks?
 
GetWedge said:
ok thank you, and final question how do you think the gains will compare with a D-bol and Androhard stack, running the D-bol at 30 mg for 4 weeks and Androhard for 6 weeks?
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at 30mgs I would be led to believe that a 6-8 week AndroMass v3 cycle would be better and much more sustainable. dianabol spikes 3-4 hours in blood and just doesnt keep you anabolic long enough to make solid tissue gains ----water gains , sure.

-Matt
 
What was the difference between v1 & v2 AndroMass?
 
AaronJP1 said:
What was the difference between v1 & v2 AndroMass?
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Here's where the confusion sets in.......Technically the "VERSION" refers to the Liqua-Vade delivery technology not the hormones per se....

So ---there was never a "v1" AndroMass ----Just a version 1 AndroHard (LV)

-Matt
 
ryansm said:
First version contained 1-DHEA/4-DHEA, second contains more 4-DHEA and half the dose of the AH hormones
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The last part half dose of AH hormones would that mean there were 600mg of 1dhea in the v1 as opposed to v2 300mg and am I not understanding?
 
MattPorter said:
Here's where the confusion sets in.......Technically the "VERSION" refers to the Liqua-Vade delivery technology not the hormones per se....

So ---there was never a "v1" AndroMass ----Just a version 1 AndroHard (LV)

-Matt
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Ok yeah I did get confused so basically they just added more/better liqua-vase hormone transport to help it be absorbed better?


I have a batch now m-00656 which would have the "newer" transport system correct?
 
AaronJP1 said:
Ok yeah I did get confused so basically they just added more/better liqua-vase hormone transport to help it be absorbed better?


I have a batch now m-00656 which would have the "newer" transport system correct?
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If it has the 1-DHEA in it, then it is the "v2" of the LV technology.
 
Rodja said:
If it has the 1-DHEA in it, then it is the "v2" of the LV technology.
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Which it does. I was just curious as well how v2 differed...
 
AaronJP1 said:
Ok yeah I did get confused so basically they just added more/better liqua-vase hormone transport to help it be absorbed better?


I have a batch now m-00656 which would have the "newer" transport system correct?
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Yes and added more hormone (Super 4-DHEA) along with replacing the 1-DHEA with Super Rb DHEA, and Super Ra DHEA (the actives that are in AndroHard V3). ​
 
Matt thank you for answering my question about d-bol without abuse! Never seen such noble behaviour in a forum lol
 
ryansm said:
Yes and added more hormone (Super 4-DHEA) along with replacing the 1-DHEA with Super Rb DHEA, and Super Ra DHEA (the actives that are in AndroHard V3).
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Aw think I got it now.
v2 seems like it's the best out of all 3 lol.
 
HereToStudy said:
Aaron, sorry I was late to getting to your PM, glad these guys got to you.
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Thank you.
 
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