Andromass or Androhard

tusane · Jul 15, 2011

Quick and Clear to the point....Is andromass or androhard worth the money?

rulk22 · Jul 15, 2011

tusane said:
Quick and Clear to the point....Is andromass or androhard worth the money?

We should hear from the members here who have used it.

ryansm · Jul 15, 2011

Posted this in the other thread

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BigBlackGuy · Jul 15, 2011

A great list of logs. Out of all the logs I've seen (and reviews) only 3-4 have had bad experiences.

ryansm · Jul 18, 2011

rulk22 said:
We should hear from the members here who have used it.

would like to hear feedback as well

BigBlackGuy · Jul 18, 2011

ryansm said:
would like to hear feedback as well

I can say stick to the recommended dose of Androhard... I noticed a decent bit of improvement with 9 caps, and not much more improvement with 12.

ryansm · Jul 18, 2011

BigBlackGuy said:
I can say stick to the recommended dose of Androhard... I noticed a decent bit of improvement with 9 caps, and not much more improvement with 12.

12! Holy crap I imagine that would be too much

rulk22 · Jul 19, 2011

BigBlackGuy said:
I can say stick to the recommended dose of Androhard... I noticed a decent bit of improvement with 9 caps, and not much more improvement with 12.

Did you see any adverse sides while running 12 gelcaps?

tusane · Jul 19, 2011

should i get androhard and andromass and stack it? im looking to gain serious size

BigBlackGuy · Jul 19, 2011

tusane said:
should i get androhard and andromass and stack it? im looking to gain serious size

IMO, get two bottles of andromass and run them for 8 weeks. I'll hit you up with a PM for a discount.

ryansm · Jul 19, 2011

BigBlackGuy said:
IMO, get two bottles of andromass and run them for 8 weeks. I'll hit you up with a PM for a discount.

You could add AndroHard to the last 4 weeks as well

BigBlackGuy · Jul 19, 2011

ryansm said:
12! Holy crap I imagine that would be too much

rulk22 said:
Did you see any adverse sides while running 12 gelcaps?

Nah no adverse sides. I don't know what's with these guys and the nausea thing... but no, not a single bad side. Just not enough improvement in effects to warrant another 3 pills.

BigBlackGuy · Jul 22, 2011

tusane said:
should i get androhard and andromass and stack it? im looking to gain serious size

J/W if you made a decision

tusane · Jul 23, 2011

not yet i will prob buy 2 andromasses

AaronJP1 · Jul 23, 2011

2 bottles of Andromass for major size gains over Andromass and androhard cycle?
Looking to run either set up as well, just not sure which route to go yet

ryansm · Jul 23, 2011

AaronJP1 said:
2 bottles of Andromass for major size gains over Andromass and androhard cycle?
Looking to run either set up as well, just not sure which route to go yet

Straight up mass gains best would be AndroMass for 8 weeks

Terencec · Jul 23, 2011

Question hows the stress to the kidneys when taking andro AM/AH I'm on my second month of my cycle and its going to consist of that.

ryansm · Jul 23, 2011

Terencec said:
Question hows the stress to the kidneys when taking andro AM/AH I'm on my second month of my cycle and its going to consist of that.

There isn't any, and none have been reported via blood work

tusane · Jul 24, 2011

two bottles of andromass will def do the job for looking swoll and massed as per say am i right

tusane · Jul 25, 2011

???? someone answer that ?

ryansm · Jul 25, 2011

tusane said:
two bottles of andromass will def do the job for looking swoll and massed as per say am i right

Yes, AndroMass is showing 12 plus pounds gained in 6 weeks, some have gained upwards of 18 pounds.

BigBlackGuy · Jul 25, 2011

ryansm said:
Yes, AndroMass is showing 12 plus pounds gained in 6 weeks, some have gained upwards of 18 pounds.

People are actually showing that maybe weeks 7/8 aren't necessary for getting the most out of AM. I might even be more in favor of 8-9 caps a day for 6 weeks...

tusane · Jul 26, 2011

answer back

mattrag · Jul 26, 2011

BigBlackGuy said:
People are actually showing that maybe weeks 7/8 aren't necessary for getting the most out of AM. I might even be more in favor of 8-9 caps a day for 6 weeks...

That's a very expensive cycle <_<.

ryansm · Jul 26, 2011

mattrag said:
That's a very expensive cycle <_<.

PM a rep

ryansm · Jul 26, 2011

tusane said:
answer back

I'm confused

BigBlackGuy · Jul 26, 2011

mattrag said:
That's a very expensive cycle <_<.

Well it would be about the cost of an 8 weeker with andromass. Expensive for sure. Effective? Hell yes.

tusane · Jul 26, 2011

i am very pumped for this cycle i should gain at least 15 lbs from 2 bottles am i right

BigBlackGuy · Jul 26, 2011

tusane said:
i am very pumped for this cycle i should gain at least 15 lbs from 2 bottles am i right

Its dependant on diet/training, but 15 lbs. isn't unheard of, even on the 4-6 weeks cycles!

tusane · Jul 28, 2011

so 2 bottles of andromass is good? or should i stack one bottle with another prohormone

ryansm · Jul 28, 2011

tusane said:
so 2 bottles of andromass is good? or should i stack one bottle with another prohormone

2 bottles imo, I could see a low dose SD with it though, but the best cycle I see is 6 weeks.

tusane · Jul 28, 2011

is one bottle 4 weeks? or do i need 2 for 6 weeks?

BigBlackGuy · Jul 28, 2011

1 bottle at the recommended dose lasts 4 weeks.

tusane · Jul 28, 2011

i want to look massed and basically roided without shooting in the ass lol...do u think 6 weeks would do the job if i dieted right and did everything right? what do u guys recommend doing

BigBlackGuy · Jul 29, 2011

tusane said:
i want to look massed and basically roided without shooting in the ass lol...do u think 6 weeks would do the job if i dieted right and did everything right? what do u guys recommend doing

6 weeks of Andromass 9 caps per day would be a great cycle, I think if you eat well enough (and eat BIG enough!) + training you'll be on your way to huge town.

bashman · Jul 29, 2011

ryansm said:
Yes, AndroMass is showing 12 plus pounds gained in 6 weeks, some have gained upwards of 18 pounds.

Was this logged?

BigBlackGuy · Jul 29, 2011

bashman said:
Was this logged?

Just a few logs that I dug through.

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I ended up moving the scale up by 14.7 lbs (cycle high was 190.5).
Week 1 - Day 7: 179.4 Up 4.6 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 179.4
Week 2 - Day 14: 182.9 Up 8.1 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 182.9
Week 3 - Day 21: 185.8 Up 11.0 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 185.8
Week 4+ - Day 30: 187.5 Up 12.7 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 187.5
Week 5 - Day 35: 188.8 Up 14.0 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 188.8
Week 6 - Day 42: 190.5 Up 15.7 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 190.5
Week 7 - Day 49: 188.6 Up 13.8 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 188.6
Week 8 - Day 54: 189.5 Up 13.8 lbs over Day 0 - 174.8 to 189.5

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honestly, i got stuck in the door frame and had to call 911 for emergency removal.. I jammed up my pinky in the squat rack real good doing 405x3x3 so i've basically laid off of all upper body ****. been sticking to squats and deads. hit 505 on a raw DL the other night. and basically been running alot. definately lost bf% maybe 2 or 3% and finishing weight at 228lbs. so a solid 10lbs over 6 weeks.

Conclusion: I'd say that AM works damn well, and does what PP says it does. I went from 134.5 - 150 in four weeks. My diet consists of around 3400-4000 calories per day, with usually around 100g fat, 400g carb, 300g protein. I know this log sounds dry, but I'm just very objective. The fact is that I went up 15.5 lbs in four weeks, with minimal changes in BF%, no noticeable negative effects, and the positive effects of being happy all the time, and gaining.

Ive gained at least 15 lbs at this point. Since I started taking the androhard, I notice more gains and looking more lean. I have better energy, I felt like going past 4-5 sets of reps but didn't. I have been eating at least 200grams of protien and only around 2500-3200 cals a day. The recovery right now is off the charts, Its hard to feel sore the next day. I have alot of soreness right after lifting so I know Im hitting it hard. I decided to take my dose a bit closer to bed time because im not sleeping very well when dosing it close together. Last night I slept way better, and I really needed it. The hunger Ive had is amazing, it will go away if I dont eat the right amount. When I didn't eat as much for 2 days, I felt like crap. Ive been feeling good for the most part.

ryansm · Jul 30, 2011

bashman said:
Was this logged?

The 18 pounds was a review, can't remember where I saw it, anyway as you can see above many have seen great gains on AndroMass

ryansm · Jul 30, 2011

ryansm said:
The 18 pounds was a review, can't remember where I saw it, anyway as you can see above many have seen great gains on AndroMass

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tusane · Jul 31, 2011

so in order to be at the point i wanna be i should run 2 bottles of andromass instead of doing andromass and androhard

jbryand101b · Jul 31, 2011

I agree with this thread, and think pp should send me another bottle to make it 9 caps e/d for 5 more weeks! (1rst week is done at 6 caps e/d)

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BigBlackGuy · Aug 1, 2011

jbryand101b said:
I agree with this thread, and think pp should send me another bottle to make it 9 caps e/d for 5 more weeks! (1rst week is done at 6 caps e/d)

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lol yah yah

ryansm · Aug 1, 2011

We'll see what we can do, if anything you can get 40% off

tusane · Aug 1, 2011

do u guys think im better off doing D-bol or a steroid like that, rather than 2 bottles of andromass, or do u think the gains r quite similar

BigBlackGuy · Aug 1, 2011

tusane said:
do u guys think im better off doing D-bol or a steroid like that, rather than 2 bottles of andromass, or do u think the gains r quite similar

Dbol is much wetter, the gains are more transient. With andromass the gains are drier (much drier, imo), you won't need an AI like most will with medium to high doses of dbol, and Andromass isn't toxic to the liver so you run it longer.

However, I have a feeling you'll feel "better" on dbol due to its effects on libido and energy levels. But this really isn't the goal of a cycle (though it does help!)

tusane · Aug 1, 2011

do u guys know any steroids in pill form that are very good and potent, but not as stressfull on the liver? throw me some names ,maybe from your past uses thanks

Rodja · Aug 1, 2011

Most oral steroids are methylated (especially the ones that are OTC).

tusane · Aug 1, 2011

the real question im trying to figure out is if im better off doing a oral steroid or a safe oral ph like andromass

ryansm · Aug 2, 2011

tusane said:
the real question im trying to figure out is if im better off doing a oral steroid or a safe oral ph like andromass

Better off in terms of? Sides?

Rodja · Aug 2, 2011

It's a bit of a broad question.

Andromass or Androhard

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