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AndroMass Cycle Help

kc777

kc777

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I have on hand 2 bottles each of AM and AH. I want to run these but not sure how...

My only cycle experience is 6 days of AL and it did not treat me well. I understand that 5-DHEA can be more estrogenic than the other isomers, but I want to hear some suggestions from experienced users.

What should I have on hand for gyno symptoms?
How should I cycle these compounds?
What is normal/not normal during a cycle?
PCT? I can do TRS stack but I don't think this is enough.
And anything else you want to throw my way...

Age 29
225lbs
6'3"
9-10% BF

Diet will be a clean bulk a looking to keep BF as low as possible but still bulk. I understand that I won't stay at 9% but I don't see why I couldn't stay below 11.

I had bloods done and everything is normal and very healthy. I can do pre-post bloods as well. I won't do a lipid panel on post bloods because my cholesterol came back very good and the only negative effect these could have lipid profile would be temporary.

As for comments and suggestions please remember I'm one of the few that had very estrogenic effects from AL. Bloods were fine after only 4 days of stopping but health is still a goal if ya know what I mean...

Thanks!
 
kc777 said:
I have on hand 2 bottles each of AM and AH. I want to run these but not sure how...

My only cycle experience is 6 days of AL and it did not treat me well. I understand that 5-DHEA can be more estrogenic than the other isomers, but I want to hear some suggestions from experienced users.

What should I have on hand for gyno symptoms?
Since you are running AH then you don't need anything
How should I cycle these compounds?
My suggestion would be to run 8 weeks at full dose
What is normal/not normal during a cycle?
Not sure what you mean by this?
PCT? I can do TRS stack but I don't think this is enough.
For an 8 week cycle I suggest the TRS with a SERM, I prefer Torem but Nolva or Clomid is fine if you haven't purchased the TRS yet hit me up for a discount
And anything else you want to throw my way...
I think the AH is enough for any estrogenic sides, but if you want you could go ahead and get an AI just to have on hand

Age 29
225lbs
6'3"
9-10% BF

Diet will be a clean bulk a looking to keep BF as low as possible but still bulk. I understand that I won't stay at 9% but I don't see why I couldn't stay below 11.

I had bloods done and everything is normal and very healthy. I can do pre-post bloods as well. I won't do a lipid panel on post bloods because my cholesterol came back very good and the only negative effect these could have lipid profile would be temporary.

As for comments and suggestions please remember I'm one of the few that had very estrogenic effects from AL. Bloods were fine after only 4 days of stopping but health is still a goal if ya know what I mean...

Thanks!
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Answers above in red bud, sorry for the late reply. I know you are looking to lean bulk, but you may need to increase cals more than you plan to. With the 8 weeks you have plenty of time though to make this a success.
 
ryansm said:
Answers above in red bud, sorry for the late reply. I know you are looking to lean bulk, but you may need to increase cals more than you plan to. With the 8 weeks you have plenty of time though to make this a success.
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No prob at all, thanks for the reply! What AI would you recommend to have on hand?
 
HereToStudy said:
Yep, keep in mind that Androhard will control estrogen quite well on it's own.
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Thanks! I highly doubt I'll use an AI, but I will keep one on hand jic. If anything I may just use it at very low dose during first week of PCT while I recover to prevent any rebound. I just want to be well armed; the last thing I want is to run into problems and not have the means to treat them.
 
kc777 said:
Thanks! I highly doubt I'll use an AI, but I will keep one on hand jic. If anything I may just use it at very low dose during first week of PCT while I recover to prevent any rebound. I just want to be well armed; the last thing I want is to run into problems and not have the means to treat them.
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In that case, I would use Aromasin, but even then I don't find it necessary.
 
HereToStudy said:
In that case, I would use Aromasin, but even then I don't find it necessary.
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Im hoping that I use no precautionary's, but better safe than sorry. I'm very excited for this cycle, but I want to play it smart. I'll be doing bw pre, post, and after.
 
Keep it on hand, but don't use it until necessary (and don't psyche yourself out and think something is there when it's not).
 
good to see you are getting the blood work done, sounds like you are doing everything right and should have a good cycle
 
I'm still a month or so out from starting, I want to be as fresh as possible before beginning. I'm in the middle of moving right now for the 3rd time this year and it's driving me crazy. Once I'm done moving in a couple of weeks I will see the doc and check baseline, then I plan to take 2 additional weeks to just transition into the training regimen I've chosen; I've been using very little weight for the last 4 months. If my body responds to the routine the way I have in the past it'll be go time. However, if I feel like I'm still steadily creeping towards previous PR's then I'll wait another 2 weeks, I want to be sure that I gain everything I can from this stack.
 
kc777 said:
I'm still a month or so out from starting, I want to be as fresh as possible before beginning. I'm in the middle of moving right now for the 3rd time this year and it's driving me crazy. Once I'm done moving in a couple of weeks I will see the doc and check baseline, then I plan to take 2 additional weeks to just transition into the training regimen I've chosen; I've been using very little weight for the last 4 months. If my body responds to the routine the way I have in the past it'll be go time. However, if I feel like I'm still steadily creeping towards previous PR's then I'll wait another 2 weeks, I want to be sure that I gain everything I can from this stack.
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Sounds Perfect. I am always happy when guys seem to have a good head on their shoulders approaching a cycle.
 
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