Androlean v3

brv1102

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I've seen recommendations to run androhard for 16 weeks but I was wondering how pct would work for a cycle that length with AndroLean? I'm planning on doing a major cut from 23% bf to 12-10% in 16 weeks with no muscle loss is that a realistic goal while using androlean?
 
And as far as dieting i will be going low Carb very high protein and slowly drop my calories every week or 2. I always count my macros and calories.

In the past it has been very hard to do a successful cut since I'm an endo and I lose SO much muscle on a cut that I end up looking almost worse than before. And when I try to lean bulk I can't stay lean at all but gain a ton of muscle strength and fat.

I'm hoping to finally have a very successful cut for this beach season.
 
brv1102 said:
And as far as dieting i will be going low Carb very high protein and slowly drop my calories every week or 2. I always count my macros and calories.

In the past it has been very hard to do a successful cut since I'm an endo and I lose SO much muscle on a cut that I end up looking almost worse than before. And when I try to lean bulk I can't stay lean at all but gain a ton of muscle strength and fat.

I'm hoping to finally have a very successful cut for this beach season.
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The issue here is that we HAVE NOT beta tested the AndroLean on Testers yet. Common sense would leave me to believe that 11KT is relatively mild in androgenic effects as well as anabolic effects, does NOT convert to estrogen , nor DHT ---so given the once-a-day-dosing scheme, the shut down should be kept to minimum just like the other products.

AndroLean v3 is very exciting to me, because like AndroHard --- any advanced steroid user of injects or methyls can easily add these 2 hormones into there stack for additional benefits without redundancy.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
The issue here is that we HAVE NOT beta tested the AndroLean on Testers yet. Common sense would leave me to believe that 11KT is relatively mild in androgenic effects as well as anabolic effects, does NOT convert to estrogen , nor DHT ---so given the once-a-day-dosing scheme, the shut down should be kept to minimum just like the other products.

AndroLean v3 is very exciting to me, because like AndroHard --- any advanced steroid user of injects or methyls can easily add these 2 hormones into there stack for additional benefits without redundancy.

-Matt
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With it being mild in androgenic and Anabolic effects is what worries me about it not being able to help maintain muscle tissue in a caloric deficit. Which is my main concerned as well as the dropping body fat.
 
brv1102 said:
With it being mild in androgenic and Anabolic effects is what worries me about it not being able to help maintain muscle tissue in a caloric deficit. Which is my main concerned as well as the dropping body fat.
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The fact that it will be lowering cortisol through enzyme modulation, which should make dropping fat easier, and less aggressive in your cutting will in and of itself spare muscle.

Now that it is (I should have said MODERATELY) anabolic and MILDLY androgenic -- will actually allow you to hold muscle tissue quite easily, given you aren't on cytomel + other catabolic agents and running your system into the ground.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
The fact that it will be lowering cortisol through enzyme modulation, which should make dropping fat easier, and less aggressive in your cutting will in and of itself spare muscle.

Now that it is (I should have said MODERATELY) anabolic and MILDLY androgenic -- will actually allow you to hold muscle tissue quite easily, given you aren't on cytomel + other catabolic agents and running your system into the ground.

-Matt
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Well then so far it sounds like it is 100% what I'm looking for. I know a seem isn't required in the regular 8 week cycle, but say if I were to run it 16 weeks would I need a seem or is it still recommended to go otc?
 
brv1102 said:
I've seen recommendations to run androhard for 16 weeks but I was wondering how pct would work for a cycle that length with AndroLean? I'm planning on doing a major cut from 23% bf to 12-10% in 16 weeks with no muscle loss is that a realistic goal while using androlean?
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This is extremely unrealistic. Look at it this way... I'm 23yrs old, 6'3", 182lbs, 13-14% bf... This time last year I was 206lbs and 19% bf. That's over a span of about 48-60 weeks. Now I achieved this through diet alone... Better portion control, macros, not eating too close to bed time, eating foods I digest better.

Cause here's whats going to happen... Through using ALV3 you will see a reduction in weight, whether its fat or muscle that's up to your dieting, but you'll lose all of this weight and be super excited then a few months later you'll be back to where you started. If you want to be 10-12% bf year around then you have to change A LOT of stuff, you have to make this your way of life. I had to make a lot of changes last year but now i'm constantly seeing fat loss and muscle gain because of it. No more gluten, dairy, processed sugars, gmo foods, carbonated drinks, fast food... That's how I achieved my goal.

With that being said... I would do ALV3 8 weeks on... 6-8 weeks off. ALV3 8 weeks on.... 6-8 weeks off. I'm running AHV3 for 16 weeks and I feel great, I have no clue how ALV3 would effect you.
 
At that high a BF% you should be able to diet correctly and not lose any LBM without any need of hormones. When you get down below 12% that is another story, I'm not trying to discourage you form using AL or AH, but why not whittle that BF down to the teens at least before starting.
 
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