Androgens/new wave of DHEA PH's on a test cycle

technique88 said:
I took the new Androlean on my test cycle and really loved it! It helped reduce bloat, trimmed my mid section down, really helped Lean me out and vascularity was freaky. Naturally I'm not a very vascularr looking person.

I am considering AH for a up coming tren ace cycle but we will see, trying to keep costs low.
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Good to hear on the AL.
Notice any sides?
 
got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
 
pillsRgood said:
got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
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I see that forerunner labs alpha mass is supposed be similar to andro mass. People seem to respond well to andro mass their first go round , so I'm hoping for good results

For cost effective purposes, I couldn't pass up alpha mass. I was able to pick up two bottles for less than 60 bucks, compared to what would've been AT LEAST 300 for andromass.
 
lboston said:
I see that forerunner labs alpha mass is supposed be similar to andro mass. People seem to respond well to andro mass their first go round , so I'm hoping for good results

For cost effective purposes, I couldn't pass up alpha mass. I was able to pick up two bottles for less than 60 bucks, compared to what would've been AT LEAST 300 for andromass.
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They aren't the same regardless of what is said. AndroMass contains more than twice the amount of hormones and also combines two not one. Reflection in cost is based off the difference in hormone amounts
 
pillsRgood said:
got a deal and Ran androhard 8 weeks while on 13 weeks test e and worked great as AI, not very cost effective at all and honestly didn't see major changes... I love primordial and use trs every pct, but the andro series is a bit too expensive for my blood. Maybe my expectations were too high since I was already running the real deal....
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The benefit in that addition is adding in an additional androgen as opposed to an AI. I do hope we can bring the prices down eventually, I keep hearing it is being worked on at PP, but there are alot of factors that have to be improved upon to get price down.
 
ryansm said:
They aren't the same regardless of what is said. AndroMass contains more than twice the amount of hormones and also combines two not one. Reflection in cost is based off the difference in hormone amounts
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Thanks for clearing that up. I honestly wasn't aware of the difference in dosage. People seem to really enjoy the Andromass. It's just unfortunate it's out of reach for so many due to price.

However, like HTS mentioned, theres nothing any of you reps can do and there is reason for the additional cost. The safety of both PP and FL products is worth additional cost....
 
HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

Test E - Weeks 1-14
Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
SD - Weeks 1-4
MENT - Weeks 1-4
AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
AL - Weeks 12-16

If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
 
akaVeritaS said:
HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

Test E - Weeks 1-14
Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
SD - Weeks 1-4
MENT - Weeks 1-4
AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
AL - Weeks 12-16

If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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I like it although I would drop the SD or Ment, when it comes to orals (17aa) I stick with one even with longer cycles, what is the reasoning for both? The AL at the end I would throw it in at week 10, 4 weeks just isn't long enough imo.
 
lboston said:
Thanks for clearing that up. I honestly wasn't aware of the difference in dosage. People seem to really enjoy the Andromass. It's just unfortunate it's out of reach for so many due to price.

However, like HTS mentioned, theres nothing any of you reps can do and there is reason for the additional cost. The safety of both PP and FL products is worth additional cost....
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This is wrong, unless you are comparing AndroMass v2. AlphaMass is 1-dhea whereas AndroMass v3 is 4-dhea and epiandrosterone (rb-dhea)
 
run test 250 a week 1-14
tren a 4-10
masteron 6-14
and epi 1-4
stanodrol 4-8
thats what im running without the test
akaVeritaS said:
HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

Test E - Weeks 1-14
Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
SD - Weeks 1-4
MENT - Weeks 1-4
AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
AL - Weeks 12-16

If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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akaVeritaS said:
HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

Test E - Weeks 1-14
Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
SD - Weeks 1-4
MENT - Weeks 1-4
AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
AL - Weeks 12-16

If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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Agree with Ryan's suggestions. Two methyls stacked isn't a great idea, and the cycle is strong as is. Jealous of the set up though.
 
akaVeritaS said:
HTS and/or Ryan, thoughts?

Test E - Weeks 1-14
Tren A - Weeks 4-10 (Maybe 4-12. First time.)
SD - Weeks 1-4
MENT - Weeks 1-4
AH - Weeks 1-16 (Off day before PCT)
AL - Weeks 12-16

If my maths right, the PP products (with the 25% off code) would total just under $500. I was thinking about doing Masteron for the duration of the cycle... but to run it as high as I want, AH is considerably cheaper. AL sounds like it would be a nice finishing touch. Thoughts?
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Run AL 8 weeks minimum. It shines so nicely the final 4 weeks
 
MattPorter said:
aka is running a serious cycle...

heavy hitters

tren SD, test ment

-Matt
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**Will be.

I think I will drop the Ment... Save a few bucks.

The purpose of it was to help negate SD sides like lethargy while I'm waiting for the test-e to kick in. But now that I'm thinking of adding AH, it would just be redundant.
 
akaVeritaS said:
**Will be.

I think I will drop the Ment... Save a few bucks.

The purpose of it was to help negate SD sides like lethargy while I'm waiting for the test-e to kick in. But now that I'm thinking of adding AH, it would just be redundant.
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Ya, with the AH you will not need Ment for that purpose. would like to see a log on this if you decide to run it of you have the time bud.
 
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